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rezmutt (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-07-04 11:46 PM
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Does anyone else sense that home-grown violence is about to break out?
I am very concerned that one of these days, a freeper is going to start blasting away into a pro-Kerry or Democratic crowd, all in the name of * and Jesus ("The Lord told me to do it").
I hate to even put this dark thought out into the ether, but I cannot shake it. There have just been too many confrontations over political ideology reported in the news and here on DU that have either stopped just short of violence, or have resulted in fisticuffs. The kicking of a prone female demonstrator at the RNC comes immediately to mind. The mouthpieces of the right wing have repeatedly linked and blended the terms "liberal" and "Democratic" with "evil," "terrorist," "traitor," and so on. Sadly, therefore, it is not difficult to envision an unbalanced right-winger taking violent action against what he has been brainwashed into thinking are his enemies.
Our recent historical past has shown that extreme right wingers have not flinched when it comes to committing public violence in the name of their ideology -- Timothy McVeigh, Eric Rudolph, Paul Hill, quite probably the "Anthrax Killer," etc.
As John Kerry, Bill Clinton and other Democrats have pointed out, the GOP needs a divided country to maintain rule. A Kerry victory in November will not put an immediate end to this ideological division, as right-wing hate radio and the corporate media will continue to exploit the "Red-Blue State" split.
Are there any viable, possible solutions to help circumvent violent confrontations, or worse? Is there any way to engage in a dialogue between leaders of the left with leaders of the right?
This issue needs to be addressed sooner than later, and before it is too late.
maveric (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-07-04 11:53 PM
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5. I believe that RW/Xtian militant whackos are armed and ready.
Ashcroft and bu$h will not go out of their way to prevent attacks, nor will they try real hard to apprehend them if they do commit acts of violence.
"Change is the law
Lancer (144 posts) Tue Sep-07-04 11:54 PM
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8. I am not an alarmist by nature,
Edited on Tue Sep-07-04 11:56 PM by Lancer
but I can tell you I have received several emails today from dear, level-headed friends who echo my own same, sick feeling.
I had a dream two weeks ago I shared with no one. John Kerry was shot (but not fatally, thank God) while taking his jacket off before he began speaking at an outdoor rally.
It was devastating.
I have also begun to worry that some group of homegrown nutjobs might pull off something like the Russian school massacre here at home.
It is very, very difficult to remain upbeat. (Plus there's a lot of unrelated personal &^%* going on right now that makes it harder to keep a stiff upper lip.)
Hope we are both wrong, rez.
nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-07-04 11:56 PM
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9. About to? It already has
The McVeigh's and Rudolph's are already over the top. If we had an attorney general that was worth his weight in horseshit, he would be going after these people aggressively....the right wing is no less dangerous than the madrassas they like to scar us with abroad...heck...how many stories have there been just this year about chemicals and gunpowders stockpiled by RW individuals in Texas that they stumbled upon accidentally? There have been at least three that I recall.
KT2000 (724 posts) Tue Sep-07-04 11:57 PM
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10. RW includes some violent people
A couple years ago I was getting estimates for a new roof. One fellow drove into my driveway, got out of his truck and said "All Democrats are liars!" He was no doubt listening to RW radio.
A few days later he was arrested for pulling a rifle on a deputy who was investigating him for illegal burning.
Another time I had just gotten into my car at the grocery store when a man driving a truck with RW bumper stickers all over it rammed his truck into a shopping cart so it would smash into my car (he may have thought I had left it there, but I didn't). Thankfully the cart had a goofy wheel and it wouldn't go straight.
RW media is constantly inciting these people. They have a screw loose to begin with, then they hear all the hate - all day and all night. Yes, something is going to happen.
I think we need to have an open discussion of what effect this media is having on people. Brian Lamb tried to say that Air America is just as bad as all the RW media - but he is wrong. RW media is built on stoking anger and resentment.
KT2000 (724 posts) Wed Sep-08-04 02:21 AM
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22. RW depends on creating enemies
the daylong drone of RW media is very much about creating enemies for the listener. They incite anger and attempt to turn people against anyone who does not believe the particular talking point.
Throw the righteousness of being the party of God into the mix too.
An important part of the RW agenda is that which is favored by the NRA - no restrictions on weapon ownership.
How many times have they made up stories out of whole cloth - Clinton killed people? he was a drug dealer? Kerrey went to Viet Nam with the intention of injuring himself so he could get a purple heart?
Sure some DU comments are pretty bad but I think there is a big difference. The RW media is a coordinated message that is being heard on radio, FOX and churches.
Democrats are not listening to daylong radio to tell them what to think. They generally have to look for the information and have never been very organized.
AmerDem (978 posts) Wed Sep-08-04 12:05 AM
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14. something is defiantly brewing
I wouldn't stand back and watch my country over taken by a new fascist empire!