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Posted: 8/3/2005 8:21:39 PM EDT
I'm guessing I need to take out the Orange Plastic piece. It that a plug? If so How is the correct way to remove the 2 shot extension?
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 8:24:34 PM EDT
I think you are referring to the follower. You don't want to take that out. Is the spring installed incorrectly? Did someone install a plug at some point without your knowledge?I guess we need some more info from you.
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 8:27:07 PM EDT
Are you using 2 3/4" shells or 3"?
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 8:27:43 PM EDT
Brand new gun.

18" barrel w/ 2 shot extension.

Link Posted: 8/3/2005 8:28:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/3/2005 8:29:20 PM EDT by super64]
What size rounds 2 3/4" or 3"?

ETA: Someone beat me to it...
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 8:28:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/3/2005 8:49:58 PM EDT by KeithC]
Dumb question but is this factory new or "new to you"? Almost sounds like someone screwed the extension onto a standard Express without removing the tube dimples first....

ETA: Never mind - I type too slowly.
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 8:41:06 PM EDT
2 3/4 shells. Took off the extison clamp, tube has a ring crimp under it.

I just tryed again, I was able to get 6 in the tube this time. If I lay seven shells in a row it looks like they all should fit up to the crimp.
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 8:43:46 PM EDT
Sorry Factory new.

OK I took the follower and spring out. I can get seven shell in this way. Ugggg!
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 8:47:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/3/2005 8:49:20 PM EDT by atomicferret]
Try this:

Remove the end cap as though you were going to remove the barrel. there should a black plastic piece visible. Push it in, and turn it 90 degrees. It should come out now. If you see a long plastic spike inside the spring remove it. That may be your problem.

ETA to late: I was watching mythbusters, sorry
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 8:58:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/3/2005 8:59:34 PM EDT by MisterFloppy]
The tube should only hold 6 shells, sometimes the capacity will be listed as 7, but that includes a round in the chamber.


I take it you are talking about the one on the bottom:

www.remington.com/firearms/shotguns/870expsyn18.htm
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 9:00:48 PM EDT
If it is a newer gun you will have to drill out of smooth down the dimples in the mag tube
they are under the barrel ring and hold in the black follower retainer
Brownells make a tool for this or just drill um like i did as they are under the barrel ring anyway
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 9:01:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mjrowley:
2 3/4 shells. Took off the extison clamp, tube has a ring crimp under it.

I just tryed again, I was able to get 6 in the tube this time. If I lay seven shells in a row it looks like they all should fit up to the crimp.


You have to chamber a round to fit the last one.
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 9:03:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
If it is a newer gun you will have to drill out of smooth down the dimples in the mag tube
they are under the barrel ring and hold in the black follower retainer
Brownells make a tool for this or just drill um like i did as they are under the barrel ring anyway



This does not apply to the 870 he has.
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 9:10:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MisterFloppy:
The tube should only hold 6 shells, sometimes the capacity will be listed as 7, but that includes a round in the chamber.


I take it you are talking about the one on the bottom:

www.remington.com/firearms/shotguns/870expsyn18.htm



Yup them bastards!

I could of swore it said 7+1, not 6+1.

I guess its time to buy Agila Mini shells. How many of those will fit?
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 9:14:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/3/2005 9:17:52 PM EDT by uberdog]
Have the same guna and thought the same thing... It's 6+1.

Agila Mini shells are not reliable in 870's:

"REMINGTONS 870s seem to require a more involved modification, which we have never attempted. We have received calls from clients stating that they have tried our minishells in their 870s with excellent results, and that they did not understand why we have always mentioned the potential cycling problems. To this, we would like to state once more that minishells will not cycle flawlessly in regular pump action shotguns, no matter how well some customers are able to cycle them. Again, the Winchester 1300 Defender would seem to be the one cycling minishells best."
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 9:19:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 3:56:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mjrowley:
[Yup them bastards!

I could of swore it said 7+1, not 6+1.

I guess its time to buy Agila Mini shells. How many of those will fit?


Uh, you worried you wont hit what you are aiming at with the first 7 rounds of slug or 00 ?Now that you've cleared up the issue of what the true capacity of the weapon is?
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 4:00:00 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 5:08:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
when all is well..... get rid of the plastic mag follower and get the alluminum one. i have seen lots of the plastic ones split and fail causing a catastrophic failure to feed in the gun.



Where can i get one?
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 5:12:00 PM EDT
In some states it is illegal to go hunting with it removed.
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 5:37:17 PM EDT
Most shotguns have plugs installed irregardless of the potential capacity, just take it out. This goes for Mossies and Remingtons
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 5:54:07 PM EDT
NOTE: The Model 870™ Express® is intended for personal use and will not accept law enforcement accessories.

wtf? How does one order a "LE" shotgun? I don't hunt geese. I have a shotgun for defense.
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 7:59:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tannim:
NOTE: The Model 870™ Express® is intended for personal use and will not accept law enforcement accessories.

wtf? How does one order a "LE" shotgun? I don't hunt geese. I have a shotgun for defense.


The shotties with the "P" suffix are LE models.
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 8:05:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jkstexas2001:
In some states it is illegal to go hunting with it removed.



and it can also depend on what you are hunting
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 8:27:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/4/2005 8:28:36 PM EDT by MrKrink]
I sell a ton of those guns REM #5077..............IT'S 6 IN THE TUBE And 1 in the pipe for 7 shots..................It says 7 shot. These guns DO NOT come with "plug"/shot limiter. Orange thingy is the high visibility follower so you can see it's empty.
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 8:29:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NonConformist:
Most shotguns have plugs installed irregardless of the potential capacity, just take it out. This goes for Mossies and Remingtons


Remington defense shotguns do not come with a plug.
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 8:31:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/4/2005 8:33:43 PM EDT by MrKrink]

Originally Posted By Tannim:
NOTE: The Model 870™ Express® is intended for personal use and will not accept law enforcement accessories.

wtf? How does one order a "LE" shotgun? I don't hunt geese. I have a shotgun for defense.


Why not? Put them on them all the time. This is a REM 1187P 7+1+17=25
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 1:40:02 AM EDT
I think you are experiencing a "break-in" issue.

When I installed an extension on my issued 870 Police Magnum (beanbag gun in the trunk) I experienced the same problem. The follower would often get hung up during loading at about round #4 or #5. It always feeds just fine, but loading it up can be a chore, at times, until it gets good and broken in. I always figure that if 8 beanbags don't stop them, it is time to transition to a sidearm, anyhow (and my lethal cover guys will already have that done, anyways) so I am not that worried about getting it to load quickly. When it hangs up, I drop a couple of rounds and try again and they usually load smoothly.

Link Posted: 8/5/2005 2:30:57 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/6/2005 5:37:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MrKrink:

Why not? Put them on them all the time.This is a REM 1187P 7+1+17=25
i18.photobucket.com/albums/b143/MrKrink/000_0927.jpg


Thats umm..a lot of spare rounds you're carrying there..............
Link Posted: 8/6/2005 5:49:05 AM EDT
Your gun still has the titttys in the mag. You will need to remove them. get a dremmel and a sanding drum, do a site search for the proper instructions. Or email me and I will type em up for ya.
Link Posted: 8/6/2005 5:50:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/6/2005 5:52:12 AM EDT by Kharn]

Originally Posted By MrKrink:
Why not? Put them on them all the time. This is a REM 1187P 7+1+17=25
i18.photobucket.com/albums/b143/MrKrink/000_0927.jpg


Do you use that for three-gun or is it for home defense?
If you feel the need for 25rds of buckshot, I'd strongly suggest looking into using a belt-fed as your home defense weapon. Or moving.

Kharn
Link Posted: 8/6/2005 5:55:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/6/2005 5:58:59 AM EDT by Dru]

Originally Posted By MrKrink:

Originally Posted By Tannim:
NOTE: The Model 870™ Express® is intended for personal use and will not accept law enforcement accessories.

wtf? How does one order a "LE" shotgun? I don't hunt geese. I have a shotgun for defense.


Why not? Put them on them all the time. This is a REM 1187P 7+1+17=25
i18.photobucket.com/albums/b143/MrKrink/000_0927.jpg



+1


Nice shotty........... The 'You better add a clamp on the barrel and extension' gnomes will be along shortly............
Link Posted: 8/6/2005 7:25:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Kharn:

Originally Posted By MrKrink:
Why not? Put them on them all the time. This is a REM 1187P 7+1+17=25
i18.photobucket.com/albums/b143/MrKrink/000_0927.jpg


Do you use that for three-gun or is it for home defense?
If you feel the need for 25rds of buckshot, I'd strongly suggest looking into using a belt-fed as your home defense weapon. Or moving.

Kharn



Or getting a GE minigun rigged to a switch that closes when the door is kicked in.....

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