[b]I hate stupid, immature games also![/b]

Like those goddamn Parker Bros games. Monopoly?  I hate that game, all I do is go around the board, over and over, buying real estate only it's not real, it's fake.  It's fake estates.  So I'm buying property that isn't real, going in circles and taking order from a six-sided injection-molded precision balanced piece of plastic.  Tell me that doesn't sound stupid, or at least Satanic.

And while on the subject of stupid games, dating has to take the cake.  Is it some sort of new-age courtship that forces me to take a girl out to dinner and a movie.  Regardless of the fact that that's cliche, is it really neccessary to follow through with those basic steps just to get what we both want?  I'm going to break these stupid games we play and skip right ahead.  If you want to have many fun, enjoyable, and relaxing times, go ahead and write me back or just email me at Mall_Ninja(insert @ sign here)hotmail(insert .com here).  I really look forward to seeing if you also live by the words you preach and don't skip around the bush, no pun intended.

Matt.
Ps.  Your writing is excellent compared to the others I have to put up with on this site.  I appreciate your grasp of the English language and wish you well with your studies.

This profile is a 18 year old Female looking to casually date a
Male between the ages of 18 and 25


Located in MESA, ARIZONA, USA  
18 years old  Last visited Jun 25, 2002  
Race is Caucasian  Slim figure  
Sexual orientation is Straight  Height is 6 feet, 0 inches

Has children: No  
Eyes are Hazel  
Wants children: Undecided  
Hair is Brown  
Smoker: No  
Religion is No Response  
Drinker: No  
Education is High School - Grad  
Into fitness: Occasionally  
Occupation is Student  

Activities that they enjoy
Aerobics, Biking, Camping, Hiking, Ice skating, Jogging/running, Mountain climbing, Swimming, Walking, Weight lifting

Sports that they enjoy watching and/or playing
Baseball, Basketball, Bowling, Diving, Extreme sports, Figure skating, Football, Olympic sports, Tennis

Forms of entertainment that they enjoy
Board Games, Concerts, Dance clubs, Darts, Dinner parties, Fine dining, Movies, Music:Country, Music:Jazz/R&B, Music:Pop, Music:Rap, Music:Rock, Poetry, Reading, Surfing the web, TV:Educational/news, TV:Entertainment, Video games

Other hobbies or interests of theirs
Computers, Crafts, Creative writing, Family/kids, News/politics/events, Philosophy/spirituality, Shopping, Travelling, Volunteer

What they say about themselves
Im a 6 feet tall(really), and have a petite figure. I am interested in modeling, acting, dancing, singing, working out(aerobics), and hanging out or chatting with people. If you are older than 30, sorry, I'm not interested.

What they say about their Dream Mate
I guess my dream mate would be someone who would challenge me intellectually, but not too much. Dont try to just sweet talk me, cause it doesnt mean anything unless its truly sincere.I would want someone who has definite interests and opinions of their own and doesnt just be who other people want them to be. I would like someone at least 5 foot nine, but if they make up for their height in other ways such as personality, i can probably overlook it. Most of all, i want my dream mate to be someone i enjoy being with and who enjoys being with me and who brings out the best in me. Also, someone who isnt gonna play all the stupid immature games and just be open with me.

Quoted:
Ok, let's discuss this.  

[blue]I realize that I am coming from a different generation, but I am still speaking as a woman.  And, I too, never liked the stupid immature games...nor did I ever respond well to being told that I could NOT do something just because of my gender.  That said, this is my take on your letter:[/blue]

The first paragraph was meant to soften her up.  Using a rant technique I poked a little "elite" fun at a common and favored household game.  Read: I'm going against the grain.  

[blue]You may be going against the wrong grain here.  It seems to me that you insulted her love of playing board games in your attempt at tying the two kinds of games (board and dating) together.  I reiterate my previous point that "board games" was the very first thing on her list of things she enjoyed.  The way I read that first paragraph is that anyone who likes to play board games like monopoly is stupid and immature....that they are a waste of time and an insult to your intelligence.  Therefore, your first paragraph (if I were her) would be insulting and arrogant.  Not the effect you were looking for, obviously.[/blue]

the second paragraph was loosely tied into the first.  I lumped dating and monopoly into one catagory:  game(something she hates... even if she likes to go to dinner and movies she'll still unconciously relate those two ideas into one thing:  Bad).  She said, "Also, someone who isnt gonna play all the stupid immature games and just be open with me".  That's teen speak for "Look, I'm too shy to just ask for sex outloud, so if you'll do it for me I'd appreciate it"  

[blue]I may not be all that familiar with "teen speak" anymore, but I don't read it that way.  As a woman, I read that sentence as "Don't mess me around with a bunch of lies and false compliments just to get into my pants.  I'm looking for an honest relationship that really means something."[/blue]

I might have come off too strong, but I think a girl who plays sports which are generally dominated by men can take it.  When I meet her, or if your thinking about dating a girl like this, the "Sports Type", she'll never forgive you if you say anything like "Oh you couldn't do that cuz you're a girl" or any other remark made about her sex.  She's trying to rebel against it, bad move to call her rebellion unsatisfactory.  The "Put-up-or-shut-up" tone was used to challenge her feminine ego.

[blue]I don't disagree with your coming on strong.  I think you are correct that she is probably a strong, confident young woman who doesn't need to be treated with kid gloves.  Just don't forget that she is still a woman.  There is still room for romance.  Life would be a real drag without it.[/blue]

The compliment was thrown in just as curve ball.  While the first two paragraphs were difficult to take if they alone were a testament to my character, the addition of that last compliment, especially because it praises an often overlooked ability, is appreciated much more and adds a bit of credibility to myself.

[blue]That part I liked.  Good job there.[/blue]

Haha, I told you I got this one.

You may be going against the wrong grain here. It seems to me that you insulted her love of playing board games in your attempt at tying the two kinds of games (board and dating) together. I reiterate my previous point that "board games" was the very first thing on her list of things she enjoyed. The way I read that first paragraph is that anyone who likes to play board games like monopoly is stupid and immature....that they are a waste of time and an insult to your intelligence. Therefore, your first paragraph (if I were her) would be insulting and arrogant. Not the effect you were looking for, obviously.

Umm... gotta ask, hon.  She's SIX FEET TALL.  How are you planning on tackling that?  Heck, I'm 5'8" and I dwarfed you.... [:D]

Quoted:
Lesson learned.  I'll be careful to watch my words to not come off wrong in the future.  But, I think a girl that plays the sports just tacked on the "Board Games" as a way to keep in touch with her "childhood interests" (they don't put "doing my taxes" as an interest for a reason, everyone wants to appear "fun")  It doesn't seem right that a girl who plays such active sports would want to play boards games habitually.  It might be a gray area in her life, therefore, I think I got away with it.

edit: grammar

Quoted:
If I was the recipient of that letter, I would not respond.  The compliment on her writing was good, but the first paragraph just doesn't work at all, and the second paragraph sounds like a challenge to me.  "Put up or shut up."

Quoted:
FWIW,

I thought it was funny.  The entire first paragraph was tongue-in-cheek sarcasm and if she doesn't get that they her sense of humour is sorely lacking and you should move on.  

Umm... gotta ask, hon.  She's SIX FEET TALL.  How are you planning on tackling that?  Heck, I'm 5'8" and I dwarfed you.... [:D]

..if Pac-Man affected us as kids we'd all be running around in darkened rooms munching magic pills.

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Your sig line.... ROTFLMAO.... ever been to a rave????