They're making a big deal about saying there are anti-terrorist snipers at the Hawai'i Bowl. Supposedly, there were specific threats about the event, including a "suspicious object", and the fact that it was the only major sporting event today. They keep showing guys up in the lighting areas, but they don't look like snipers to me. You can tell some of the uniform cops have body armor on though.

When did Hawaii become Hawai'i ?

Hel'l if I'i know.

The natives always pronounce it that way. Maybe it's the new spelling. Not sure, I'm a haole.

They were there to prevent drunk spectators from throwing snow and ice balls on the field.

It has always been Hawai'i.   go to any official hawai'i website, etc  and you'll see it spelled that way.   pronounce it Ha-vai-'eee

 There was a nice little fight between both teams. Following the final overtime.

 The cops had to step in, to break it up.

I know how it's pronounced. This doesn't change this [b]new[/b] affectation on it's spelling. Let's check some websites :

http://www.gohawaii.com/
http://www.state.hi.us/
(official government site)
http://www.hawaii.com/
http://www.visit.hawaii.org/

Of the sites that show a " [b]'[/b] " in the snappy graphic, the rest of the site has the original, standard spelling throughout the text.

So much for the "it's always been that way" bullshit. It hasn't. Maybe it [i]should[/i]    have been, but it hasn't. It's apparently a relatively new change and not important enough for government and other "official" sites to bother to change the spelling throughout their websites, just the snappy graphic splash page - if that.

How about [i]before[/i] there were any websites? Have any older references that show this spelling? No, of course not. It's just advertising.  

I just returned from the Hawaii Bowl.  What a hell of a fucking game.  HPD had their Mobile Command RV there and all the "tactical" guys were decked out in their Sunday best.  Looked like they had military dogs and handlers there sniffing for explosives.  They didn't have very good security at the entrance gate, however.  They said they were going to check "ALL BAGS", but weren't.  Each line of people entering the stadium had at least four cops, MPs, or tactical dudes scoping them out.  Quite a show of force for a college football game with 25,000 attendants.  

I've lost my voice from yelling so much.  The best football game I've ever been to.  A perfect way to spend Christmas afternoon.

The fight at the end was expected.  Hawaii and Houston fought for 4.5 hours and three overtimes in the final game of the season.  These two teams battled, to the very end.  The fight was kind of disturbing because at one point a Hawaii player had his helmet off and was beating a Houston player who was cowering on the ground, in open field for all the cameras to see.  He'll be lucky to not end up charged with assault.  

You are utterly wrong.  It has always been "[b]Hawai'i[/b]".  I've spent thiry years here and can speak some Hawaiian.  The apostrophy is used in the majority of Hawaiian words.  In fact, NOT using an apostrophy in the word Hawai'i is what's relatively new because most mainlanders, obviously, wouldn't know how to pronounce the name if they were presented with it.  

Many things in Hawaii may be commercial and overly advertised, but the spelling of the state name was never changed for this purpose.

I suggest you reference some of the websites mentioned above. The spelling WITH the apostrophe is nowhere to be found on the official state government page. It's on SOME commercial pages in the artsy logo, but in the TEXT of those pages it's not in common use.

Not being a native Hawaiian nor having ever been to the island - nor typically interested in much that is Hawaiian (not a dig, just a fact) - today's spelling on the field graphics and some advertising (with the apostrophe between the i's) was the first I've seen.

I've no quarrel with the pronunciation as explained, but to pretend that the use of the apostrophe in the spelling as a normal, accepted, and historically common practice is simply incorrect, at least as far as the rest of the world is concerned.

EDITed to add : perhaps this will be like Mao Tse-tung, who became Mao Zedong, as China became more open and it's influence on how things Chinese were spelled became important to them.  


EDITed again to add - here's what I've found regarding the use of the [i]okina[/i] in the spelling of the name [i]Hawai'i[/i] from "The Hawaiian Spelling of Words"

http://www.geocities.com/dhc2020/hawaiianspelling.htm
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"Just in case you're wondering...

Why is Hawaii spelled Hawai`i?

It is the correct spelling in the Hawaiian language, one of the TWO official languages of Hawai`i.

[b]HAWAI`I STATE CONSTITUTION,
ARTICLE XV, SECTION 4, OFFICIAL LANGUAGES (1978)
English and Hawaiian shall be the official languages of Hawai`i, except that Hawaiian shall be required for public acts and transactions only as provided by law.[/b]

You will notice throughout this web site that the word "Hawai`i" has a mark between the two " i " letters. The mark is called an `okina, which indicates to the speaker that a break in the sound is to be taken, as in the exclamation, "Oh-oh!"

In English, the `okina is called a glottal stop.  A glottal stop is the quick stopping of sound created when the flap of skin in the throat voicebox called the glottis closes the air flow so no sound passes through.

With the proper font, it looks like an upside-down apostrophe -- or a  "6" with the circle colored in.
=====================  

Oooops, Chetchat, i suggest you do a little better job before saying


What BS.   From that very site,


notice the use of the okina for several of the spellings of hawai'i.  

better luck next time, hoser.

http://www.state.hi.us/
check.   Its' got the hawaiian pronounciation/ spelling.  You are wrong.

http://www.hawaii.com/
check.   Its' got the hawaiian pronounciation/ spelling.
You are wrong.

http://www.gohawaii.com/  
check.  Its' got the hawaiian pronounciation/ spelling.
you are wrong.

http://www.visit.hawaii.org/  
this is the only one that doesn't have the okima in the normal text, but it knows to have it in the "splashy" graphic.   It is a tourism page, for the benefit of tourists.   what do you expect, but for them to pander to the lowest common denominator, such as yourself?

Next time, check you "bullshit" attitude at the door when discussing things you don't know anything about,  have never been to the state, don't know squate about the language, etc etc.

Thanks for the education, but my comment :

"So much for the "it's always been that way" bullshit. It hasn't. [b]Maybe it should have been, but it hasn't.[/b] It's apparently a relatively new change and not important enough for government and other "official" sites to bother to change the spelling throughout their websites, just the snappy graphic splash page - if that."
and
"but to pretend that the use of the apostrophe in the spelling as a normal, accepted, and historically common practice is simply incorrect, at least as far as the rest of the world is concerned."

..still stands and is valid. Where on the [b]government[/b] page did you find name spelled that way? Must not mean much if those are the only two paragraphs where it's explicitly used, and I'm not going to waste my time searching the entire site. Please note also the dates 1978, 1987, and 1990 as cited are relatively recent and the changes implied are not obviously universally adopted, which was my point.

And the comment [i]"It is a tourism page, for the benefit of tourists. what do you expect, but for them to pander to the lowest common denominator, such as yourself?"[/i] says a lot. I came here asking "why" and you choose to be insulting. I ka 'ôlelo no ke ola, i ka 'ôlelo no ka make.    


 

No you won't.

[url=http://www.hawaii.gov/]Hawaii Government Site[/url]


Seems like "Hawai'i" is yet ANOTHER attempt at PC-multicultural/historical revisionism BULLSHIT.

And according to this: it was the state of [u][b]"Hawaii"[/b][/u] that was admitted to the Union in 1959, NOT [u][i]"Hawai'i"[/i][/u].

[;D]


Fucking multicultural revisionists!

GEEZUS, who REALLY gives a fuck?!?!  Hawaii, Hawai'i, New OrLEANS, New Ol'ins, Texas, Tejas, does it REALLY fucking matter???  either way..you understand what is being talked about....CHRIST!  

[img]http://home.ripway.com/2003-7/15091/Funny%20Slam%20Pics/english_mofo.gif[/img]

[url]http://www2.ics.hawaii.edu/~johnson/Jenna/hawaii-facts[/url]

Wal-Mart` Sucks! This is the correct spelling for Wal-Mart`. Someone from Arkansas told me. SO don't bother correcting or questioning my spelling.

Actually, it's WAL*MART.
[;D]

...what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent responses were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Maybe you would care to address just exactly WHO it is you are responding to. Coping and pasting from your flame file without clarifying is kinda dumb.

It's from Billy Madison. [LOL]

I took Hawaiian for a few years in high school, it was required in grade school, I was born and raised in Hawaii and my wife's whole family is Hawaiian.  

While both methods of spelling are used extensively, it HAS always been Hawai'i as far as the Hawaiian language is concerned. It doesn't matter how much info you dig up on google.  Ask any native Hawaiian, or Polynesian for that matter, or anyone who has lived in Hawaii for a good part of their life. It is Hawai'i (ha-VAI-ee)

Other Hawaiian island names that are misspelled/mispronounced are Ni‘ihau, Kaua‘i, Moloka‘i, Läna‘i, Kaho‘olawe and O‘ahu.

That being said... [b]who fucking cares?[/b]

Shouldn't that be [b]johnson@Hawai`i.edu[/b]?

Warning! Gaydar has detected high levels of gayness in this thread.

I chose to be insulting?   I find the term "bullshit" to be far more insulting than an actual true statement about you.   Which is what my comment on you being the lowest common denominator for the hawaiian tourist is.    You stated you have never been to hawaii, don't really know anything about it, and don't really care.   At what point in those three comments would lowest common denominator for a tourist [b]not[/b] apply?    

besides, I thought you asked "when", not "why".

Admitted to the Union, or stolen from the hawaiian people, who had a perfectly sound government before the haole came and stole it from them.

Hmmm, and I thought I was going to read about police snipers at a college football game...