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Posted: 12/10/2013 6:59:36 PM EST
At a prostate cancer survivors breakfast last week, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Republican, marveled at the quality of single-payer health care systems abroad and suggested the U.S. follow suit.

Amid frustration with the rollout of President Barack Obama's health care plan, some members of Congress who agree with Powell are pushing for consideration of such a system.

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., introduced the American Health Security Act of 2013 on Monday, which would require states to create their own single-payer insurance systems. A House version was introduced in March by Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash.

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Link Posted: 12/10/2013 7:01:44 PM EST
Originally Posted By tcrpe:
At a prostate cancer survivors breakfast last week, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Republican, marveled at the quality of single-payer health care systems abroad and suggested the U.S. follow suit.

Amid frustration with the rollout of President Barack Obama's health care plan, some members of Congress who agree with Powell are pushing for consideration of such a system.

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., introduced the American Health Security Act of 2013 on Monday, which would require states to create their own single-payer insurance systems. A House version was introduced in March by Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash.

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Fuck him and fuck them
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Originally Posted By jrzy:
Originally Posted By tcrpe:
At a prostate cancer survivors breakfast last week, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Republican, marveled at the quality of single-payer health care systems abroad and suggested the U.S. follow suit.

Amid frustration with the rollout of President Barack Obama's health care plan, some members of Congress who agree with Powell are pushing for consideration of such a system.

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., introduced the American Health Security Act of 2013 on Monday, which would require states to create their own single-payer insurance systems. A House version was introduced in March by Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash.



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Fuck him and fuck them

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"Health Security Act"

The only thing our health needs security from is their fucking abomination of a healthcare overhaul.

"In order to keep you from getting fucked, we'll create new laws to protect you from our original fucked up idea. In the end, though, you'll be even more fucked."

Fuck
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 7:12:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By jrzy:
Originally Posted By tcrpe:
At a prostate cancer survivors breakfast last week, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Republican, marveled at the quality of single-payer health care systems abroad and suggested the U.S. follow suit.

Amid frustration with the rollout of President Barack Obama's health care plan, some members of Congress who agree with Powell are pushing for consideration of such a system.

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., introduced the American Health Security Act of 2013 on Monday, which would require states to create their own single-payer insurance systems. A House version was introduced in March by Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash.



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Fuck him and fuck them


Link Posted: 12/10/2013 7:17:19 PM EST
Originally Posted By tcrpe:
At a prostate cancer survivors breakfast last week, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Republican, marveled at the quality of single-payer health care systems abroad and suggested the U.S. follow suit.

Amid frustration with the rollout of President Barack Obama's health care plan, some members of Congress who agree with Powell are pushing for consideration of such a system.

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., introduced the American Health Security Act of 2013 on Monday, which would require states to create their own single-payer insurance systems. A House version was introduced in March by Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash.

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Originally Posted By jrzy:
Originally Posted By tcrpe:
At a prostate cancer survivors breakfast last week, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Republican, marveled at the quality of single-payer health care systems abroad and suggested the U.S. follow suit.

Amid frustration with the rollout of President Barack Obama's health care plan, some members of Congress who agree with Powell are pushing for consideration of such a system.

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., introduced the American Health Security Act of 2013 on Monday, which would require states to create their own single-payer insurance systems. A House version was introduced in March by Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash.



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Originally Posted By Strizzo:
Originally Posted By tcrpe:
At a prostate cancer survivors breakfast last week, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Republican, marveled at the quality of single-payer health care systems abroad and suggested the U.S. follow suit.

Amid frustration with the rollout of President Barack Obama's health care plan, some members of Congress who agree with Powell are pushing for consideration of such a system.

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., introduced the American Health Security Act of 2013 on Monday, which would require states to create their own single-payer insurance systems. A House version was introduced in March by Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash.



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Link Posted: 12/10/2013 7:33:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By dux29:
"Health Security Act"

The only thing our health needs security from is their fucking abomination of a healthcare overhaul.

"In order to keep you from getting fucked, we'll create new laws to protect you from our original fucked up idea. In the end, though, you'll be even more fucked."

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Eloquently and truthfully stated,fuck
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 7:47:23 PM EST
this will cost 3 trillion a year and we will have worse care, long waiting list,
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 8:12:40 PM EST
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How about we do this instead:




Anyone for the current obamashit system, can take their opinion and shove it up their single digit IQ ass. Your results speak for themselves, therefore we wont be needing any more advice from you, thanks.
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 8:22:49 PM EST
Rock the vote '14. Any D left with a seat is a failure. Also, VT, get rid of that "I" apparently it stands for Incognito D.
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 8:50:00 PM EST
Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable.
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 9:01:54 PM EST


No shock. Everybody knows this is their End Game.


Link Posted: 12/10/2013 9:03:39 PM EST
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With this scheme, they'll grab complete control of another 18% of the US economy.
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 9:08:35 PM EST
Are there any co-sponsors for these NKVD rejects?
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 9:19:55 PM EST
Anyone who didn't see this as the ultimate goal is an empty headed fucking moron.

They have to get the insurance companies out of the mix. Now with people losing their plans,they have the ammo to paint them in a bad light and push for universal coverage.


Link Posted: 12/10/2013 9:24:39 PM EST
Colin Powell is still known as a Republican?
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 4:22:18 AM EST
Actually I've been hearing about more and more doctors bypassing the insurance game altogether.


The insurance model doesn't really fit medicine anymore, that's why it doesn't work.

Well that and other reasons. Insurance is for things not used much. Physicians are utilized along with higher less invasive technology. Of course those costs are artificially inflated due to interference by the government so who knows.

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Originally Posted By WISCONSIN13:
Anyone who didn't see this as the ultimate goal is an empty headed fucking moron.

They have to get the insurance companies out of the mix. Now with people losing their plans,they have the ammo to paint them in a bad light and push for universal coverage.


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Indeed this was the goal from the beginning, even before Barry was the nominee there was video poof this was what they wanted documenting what they would do to obtain single payer healthcare, they have followed their plans very closely.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 4:33:44 AM EST
FBHO

FCP
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 4:40:10 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AlexanderA:
Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable.
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They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world.

Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something.

My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem….
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 4:44:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ovrtym:


They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world.

Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something.

My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem….
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Originally Posted By ovrtym:
Originally Posted By AlexanderA:
Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable.


They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world.

Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something.

My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem….


By blowing up the car.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 4:47:17 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ovrtym:


They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world.

Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something.

My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem….
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Originally Posted By ovrtym:
Originally Posted By AlexanderA:
Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable.


They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world.

Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something.

My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem….


Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others.

Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 4:48:33 AM EST
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Yep. Baby steps, folks. Baby steps.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 4:49:50 AM EST
Powell: "Republican"
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 4:51:09 AM EST
This has always been the plan and it's about control, not healthcare.
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This has always been the plan and it's about control, not healthcare.
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nailed it
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 4:54:12 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Mossberg:
Rock the vote '14. Any D left with a seat is a failure. Also, VT, get rid of that "I" apparently it stands for Incognito D.
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Wrong it should be S-VT
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 4:58:00 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Eddie_Guns:


Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others.

Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws.
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Originally Posted By Eddie_Guns:
Originally Posted By ovrtym:
Originally Posted By AlexanderA:
Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable.


They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world.

Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something.

My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem….


Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others.

Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws.


The first solution is to get rid of Obamacare. You can't fix a system that is being dismantled.
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Originally Posted By Eddie_Guns:


Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others.

Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws.
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Originally Posted By Eddie_Guns:
Originally Posted By ovrtym:
Originally Posted By AlexanderA:
Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable.


They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world.

Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something.

My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem….


Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others.

Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws.


All the engineers, CAD designers, factory workers, assemblers, quality control people, warehouse packers and forklift drivers and truck drivers, all the accountants, marketers, regulatory and sales people who take home a paycheck to their families from my medical device company would like to offier a heartfelt "FUCK OFF".

Make whatever industry YOU work for nonprofit first, Marxist.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 5:02:00 AM EST
Tell Colon that james earl jones want to be to STFU
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 5:04:48 AM EST
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It's pretty obvious ACA was never actually meant to be implemented.
They only made a half-assed attempt with the web site to make it look good.

I bet if you look at the actual bill, it's the book Jack Nicholson wrote in The Shining.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 5:05:53 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Thedude27:
How about we do this instead:

http://www.history.org/Foundation/journal/Spring06/images/tar_20.jpg


Anyone for the current obamashit system, can take their opinion and shove it up their single digit IQ ass. Your results speak for themselves, therefore we wont be needing any more advice from you, thanks.
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Needs more tar.
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Originally Posted By Luchs:


All the engineers, CAD designers, factory workers, assemblers, quality control people, warehouse packers and forklift drivers and truck drivers, all the accountants, marketers, regulatory and sales people who take home a paycheck to their families from my medical device company would like to offier a heartfelt "FUCK OFF".

Make whatever industry YOU work for nonprofit first, Marxist.
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Originally Posted By Luchs:
Originally Posted By Eddie_Guns:
Originally Posted By ovrtym:
Originally Posted By AlexanderA:
Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable.


They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world.

Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something.

My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem….


Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others.

Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws.


All the engineers, CAD designers, factory workers, assemblers, quality control people, warehouse packers and forklift drivers and truck drivers, all the accountants, marketers, regulatory and sales people who take home a paycheck to their families from my medical device company would like to offier a heartfelt "FUCK OFF".

Make whatever industry YOU work for nonprofit first, Marxist.


Uh, the NFL is a non-profit. So are a lot of companies that pay their employees well.

Non-profit =/= underpaid

I work on a contract with another company that is a non-profit. All the employees that are equivalent to me make more than I do. Their senior level people are paid more. They get better benefits and health insurance. All in all, I'd rather work for that company than my own.
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Uh, the NFL is a non-profit. So are a lot of companies that pay their employees well.

Non-profit =/= underpaid

I work on a contract with another company that is a non-profit. All the employees that are equivalent to me make more than I do. Their senior level people are paid more. They get better benefits and health insurance. All in all, I'd rather work for that company than my own.
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Originally Posted By Eddie_Guns:
Originally Posted By Luchs:
Originally Posted By Eddie_Guns:
Originally Posted By ovrtym:
Originally Posted By AlexanderA:
Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable.


They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world.

Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something.

My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem….


Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others.

Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws.


All the engineers, CAD designers, factory workers, assemblers, quality control people, warehouse packers and forklift drivers and truck drivers, all the accountants, marketers, regulatory and sales people who take home a paycheck to their families from my medical device company would like to offier a heartfelt "FUCK OFF".

Make whatever industry YOU work for nonprofit first, Marxist.


Uh, the NFL is a non-profit. So are a lot of companies that pay their employees well.

Non-profit =/= underpaid

I work on a contract with another company that is a non-profit. All the employees that are equivalent to me make more than I do. Their senior level people are paid more. They get better benefits and health insurance. All in all, I'd rather work for that company than my own.


Okay, nevermind.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, so arguing is a waste of time.

(To everyone else, unfortunately, this sort votes.)
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Originally Posted By gitarmac:
Actually I've been hearing about more and more doctors bypassing the insurance game altogether.


The insurance model doesn't really fit medicine anymore, that's why it doesn't work.

Well that and other reasons. Insurance is for things not used much. Physicians are utilized along with higher less invasive technology. Of course those costs are artificially inflated due to interference by the government so who knows.

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I've often wondered what it would cost to go to the doctor if insurance hadn't inflated the prices.
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Originally Posted By Eddie_Guns:


Uh, the NFL is a non-profit. So are a lot of companies that pay their employees well.

Non-profit =/= underpaid

I work on a contract with another company that is a non-profit. All the employees that are equivalent to me make more than I do. Their senior level people are paid more. They get better benefits and health insurance. All in all, I'd rather work for that company than my own.
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Originally Posted By Eddie_Guns:
Originally Posted By Luchs:
Originally Posted By Eddie_Guns:
Originally Posted By ovrtym:
Originally Posted By AlexanderA:
Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable.


They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world.

Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something.

My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem….


Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others.

Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws.


All the engineers, CAD designers, factory workers, assemblers, quality control people, warehouse packers and forklift drivers and truck drivers, all the accountants, marketers, regulatory and sales people who take home a paycheck to their families from my medical device company would like to offier a heartfelt "FUCK OFF".

Make whatever industry YOU work for nonprofit first, Marxist.


Uh, the NFL is a non-profit. So are a lot of companies that pay their employees well.

Non-profit =/= underpaid

I work on a contract with another company that is a non-profit. All the employees that are equivalent to me make more than I do. Their senior level people are paid more. They get better benefits and health insurance. All in all, I'd rather work for that company than my own.


Did you turn in your resignation yet?
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Has anyone called dupe yet? There's already a 4-pager going on this one.
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I've often wondered what it would cost to go to the doctor if insurance hadn't inflated the prices.
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Originally Posted By gitarmac:
Actually I've been hearing about more and more doctors bypassing the insurance game altogether.


The insurance model doesn't really fit medicine anymore, that's why it doesn't work.

Well that and other reasons. Insurance is for things not used much. Physicians are utilized along with higher less invasive technology. Of course those costs are artificially inflated due to interference by the government so who knows.

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I've often wondered what it would cost to go to the doctor if insurance hadn't inflated the prices.


High unless we get tort reform. Malpractice insurance eats most of many physicians' income.
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lol, don't have a job yet. Working on it. However, it was noted how well they treated their employees. If given the choice, I will be working for a company like that instead of one that only cares about how much the stock increased that quarter.
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High unless we get tort reform. Malpractice insurance eats most of many physicians' income.
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Originally Posted By Durka-Durka:
Originally Posted By gitarmac:
Actually I've been hearing about more and more doctors bypassing the insurance game altogether.


The insurance model doesn't really fit medicine anymore, that's why it doesn't work.

Well that and other reasons. Insurance is for things not used much. Physicians are utilized along with higher less invasive technology. Of course those costs are artificially inflated due to interference by the government so who knows.

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I've often wondered what it would cost to go to the doctor if insurance hadn't inflated the prices.


High unless we get tort reform. Malpractice insurance eats most of many physicians' income.


Wouldn't a simple way around that be a contract that prohibits the patient from suing the doctor for malpractice?
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Originally Posted By Eddie_Guns:


lol, don't have a job yet. Working on it. However, it was noted how well they treated their employees. If given the choice, I will be working for a company like that instead of one that only cares about how much the stock increased that quarter.
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Originally Posted By Eddie_Guns:
Originally Posted By ovrtym:

Did you turn in your resignation yet?


lol, don't have a job yet. Working on it. However, it was noted how well they treated their employees. If given the choice, I will be working for a company like that instead of one that only cares about how much the stock increased that quarter.


"I work on a contract with another company that is a non-profit. All the employees that are equivalent to me make more than I do. Their senior level people are paid more. They get better benefits and health insurance. All in all, I'd rather work for that company than my own."

So you don't have a job?
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Originally Posted By Eddie_Guns:


Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others.

Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws.
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Originally Posted By Eddie_Guns:
Originally Posted By ovrtym:
Originally Posted By AlexanderA:
Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable.


They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world.

Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something.

My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem….


Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others.

Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws.
We have the best food supply system in the world but still people get fat. Therefore we need to make grocery stores non-profit and have the best food for everyone.

We have great automobile companies yet some people are forced to drive inefficient/ugly cars so we should turn Tesla Motor Company into a non-profit so everyone could afford one.

We have the best homes in the world but some are forced to live in run-down apartments so we should turn home construction/development into non-profits so everyone can afford a 3500 square foot McMansion.


Link Posted: 12/11/2013 5:15:49 AM EST
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"I work on a contract with another company that is a non-profit. All the employees that are equivalent to me make more than I do. Their senior level people are paid more. They get better benefits and health insurance. All in all, I'd rather work for that company than my own."

So you don't have a job?
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Originally Posted By ovrtym:

Did you turn in your resignation yet?


lol, don't have a job yet. Working on it. However, it was noted how well they treated their employees. If given the choice, I will be working for a company like that instead of one that only cares about how much the stock increased that quarter.


"I work on a contract with another company that is a non-profit. All the employees that are equivalent to me make more than I do. Their senior level people are paid more. They get better benefits and health insurance. All in all, I'd rather work for that company than my own."

So you don't have a job?

No, I have a job as a contractor. The non-profit is also on the same contract. I work with their employees regularly.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 5:16:16 AM EST
If the single payer was Saudi Arabia I might consider it.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 5:17:09 AM EST
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We have the best food supply system in the world but still people get fat. Therefore we need to make grocery stores non-profit and have the best food for everyone.

We have great automobile companies yet some people are forced to drive inefficient/ugly cars so we should turn Tesla Motor Company into a non-profit so everyone could afford one.

We have the best homes in the world but some are forced to live in run-down apartments so we should turn home construction/development into non-profits so everyone can afford a 3500 square foot McMansion.


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Originally Posted By AlexanderA:
Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable.


They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world.

Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something.

My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem….


Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others.

Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws.
We have the best food supply system in the world but still people get fat. Therefore we need to make grocery stores non-profit and have the best food for everyone.

We have great automobile companies yet some people are forced to drive inefficient/ugly cars so we should turn Tesla Motor Company into a non-profit so everyone could afford one.

We have the best homes in the world but some are forced to live in run-down apartments so we should turn home construction/development into non-profits so everyone can afford a 3500 square foot McMansion.




Not quite the same thing.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 5:17:47 AM EST
Okay, how's this: get the government out of health care. Completely.

There's a serious policy.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 5:18:43 AM EST
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At a prostate cancer survivors breakfast last week, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Republican, marveled at the quality of single-payer health care systems abroad and suggested the U.S. follow suit.

Amid frustration with the rollout of President Barack Obama's health care plan, some members of Congress who agree with Powell are pushing for consideration of such a system.

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., introduced the American Health Security Act of 2013 on Monday, which would require states to create their own single-payer insurance systems. A House version was introduced in March by Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash.

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<<snort>> They said prostate and colin in the same sentence <<snort>>
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 5:18:44 AM EST
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Colin Powell is still known as a Republican?
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To crib Groucho Marx, I wouldn't join any political party that would have him as a member.
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