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At a prostate cancer survivors breakfast last week, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Republican, marveled at the quality of single-payer health care systems abroad and suggested the U.S. follow suit.
Amid frustration with the rollout of President Barack Obama's health care plan, some members of Congress who agree with Powell are pushing for consideration of such a system. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., introduced the American Health Security Act of 2013 on Monday, which would require states to create their own single-payer insurance systems. A House version was introduced in March by Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash. View Quote Link |
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Quoted: At a prostate cancer survivors breakfast last week, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Republican, marveled at the quality of single-payer health care systems abroad and suggested the U.S. follow suit. Amid frustration with the rollout of President Barack Obama's health care plan, some members of Congress who agree with Powell are pushing for consideration of such a system. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., introduced the American Health Security Act of 2013 on Monday, which would require states to create their own single-payer insurance systems. A House version was introduced in March by Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash. View Quote Link View Quote |
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At a prostate cancer survivors breakfast last week, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Republican, marveled at the quality of single-payer health care systems abroad and suggested the U.S. follow suit.
Amid frustration with the rollout of President Barack Obama's health care plan, some members of Congress who agree with Powell are pushing for consideration of such a system. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., introduced the American Health Security Act of 2013 on Monday, which would require states to create their own single-payer insurance systems. A House version was introduced in March by Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash. Link |
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At a prostate cancer survivors breakfast last week, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Republican, marveled at the quality of single-payer health care systems abroad and suggested the U.S. follow suit.
Amid frustration with the rollout of President Barack Obama's health care plan, some members of Congress who agree with Powell are pushing for consideration of such a system. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., introduced the American Health Security Act of 2013 on Monday, which would require states to create their own single-payer insurance systems. A House version was introduced in March by Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash. Link |
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"Health Security Act"
The only thing our health needs security from is their fucking abomination of a healthcare overhaul. "In order to keep you from getting fucked, we'll create new laws to protect you from our original fucked up idea. In the end, though, you'll be even more fucked." Fuck |
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At a prostate cancer survivors breakfast last week, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Republican, marveled at the quality of single-payer health care systems abroad and suggested the U.S. follow suit.
Amid frustration with the rollout of President Barack Obama's health care plan, some members of Congress who agree with Powell are pushing for consideration of such a system. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., introduced the American Health Security Act of 2013 on Monday, which would require states to create their own single-payer insurance systems. A House version was introduced in March by Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash. Link |
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At a prostate cancer survivors breakfast last week, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Republican, marveled at the quality of single-payer health care systems abroad and suggested the U.S. follow suit.
Amid frustration with the rollout of President Barack Obama's health care plan, some members of Congress who agree with Powell are pushing for consideration of such a system. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., introduced the American Health Security Act of 2013 on Monday, which would require states to create their own single-payer insurance systems. A House version was introduced in March by Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash. View Quote Link View Quote |
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At a prostate cancer survivors breakfast last week, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Republican, marveled at the quality of single-payer health care systems abroad and suggested the U.S. follow suit.
Amid frustration with the rollout of President Barack Obama's health care plan, some members of Congress who agree with Powell are pushing for consideration of such a system. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., introduced the American Health Security Act of 2013 on Monday, which would require states to create their own single-payer insurance systems. A House version was introduced in March by Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash. Link |
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At a prostate cancer survivors breakfast last week, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Republican, marveled at the quality of single-payer health care systems abroad and suggested the U.S. follow suit.
Amid frustration with the rollout of President Barack Obama's health care plan, some members of Congress who agree with Powell are pushing for consideration of such a system. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., introduced the American Health Security Act of 2013 on Monday, which would require states to create their own single-payer insurance systems. A House version was introduced in March by Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash. Link http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/227/150/toosoon.JPG |
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"Health Security Act" The only thing our health needs security from is their fucking abomination of a healthcare overhaul. "In order to keep you from getting fucked, we'll create new laws to protect you from our original fucked up idea. In the end, though, you'll be even more fucked." Fuck View Quote Eloquently and truthfully stated,fuck |
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this will cost 3 trillion a year and we will have worse care, long waiting list,
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Rock the vote '14. Any D left with a seat is a failure. Also, VT, get rid of that "I" apparently it stands for Incognito D.
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Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable.
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Anyone who didn't see this as the ultimate goal is an empty headed fucking moron.
They have to get the insurance companies out of the mix. Now with people losing their plans,they have the ammo to paint them in a bad light and push for universal coverage. |
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Actually I've been hearing about more and more doctors bypassing the insurance game altogether.
The insurance model doesn't really fit medicine anymore, that's why it doesn't work. Well that and other reasons. Insurance is for things not used much. Physicians are utilized along with higher less invasive technology. Of course those costs are artificially inflated due to interference by the government so who knows. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Anyone who didn't see this as the ultimate goal is an empty headed fucking moron. They have to get the insurance companies out of the mix. Now with people losing their plans,they have the ammo to paint them in a bad light and push for universal coverage. View Quote Indeed this was the goal from the beginning, even before Barry was the nominee there was video poof this was what they wanted documenting what they would do to obtain single payer healthcare, they have followed their plans very closely. |
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Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable. View Quote They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world. Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something. My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem…. |
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They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world. Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something. My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem…. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable. They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world. Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something. My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem…. By blowing up the car. |
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They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world. Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something. My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem…. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable. They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world. Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something. My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem…. Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others. Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws. |
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This has always been the plan and it's about control, not healthcare.
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Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others. Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable. They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world. Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something. My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem…. Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others. Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws. The first solution is to get rid of Obamacare. You can't fix a system that is being dismantled. |
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Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others. Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable. They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world. Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something. My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem…. Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others. Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws. All the engineers, CAD designers, factory workers, assemblers, quality control people, warehouse packers and forklift drivers and truck drivers, all the accountants, marketers, regulatory and sales people who take home a paycheck to their families from my medical device company would like to offier a heartfelt "FUCK OFF". Make whatever industry YOU work for nonprofit first, Marxist. |
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Quoted: No shock. Everybody knows this is their End Game. View Quote It's pretty obvious ACA was never actually meant to be implemented. They only made a half-assed attempt with the web site to make it look good. I bet if you look at the actual bill, it's the book Jack Nicholson wrote in The Shining. |
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How about we do this instead: http://www.history.org/Foundation/journal/Spring06/images/tar_20.jpg Anyone for the current obamashit system, can take their opinion and shove it up their single digit IQ ass. Your results speak for themselves, therefore we wont be needing any more advice from you, thanks. View Quote Needs more tar. |
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All the engineers, CAD designers, factory workers, assemblers, quality control people, warehouse packers and forklift drivers and truck drivers, all the accountants, marketers, regulatory and sales people who take home a paycheck to their families from my medical device company would like to offier a heartfelt "FUCK OFF". Make whatever industry YOU work for nonprofit first, Marxist. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable. They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world. Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something. My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem…. Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others. Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws. All the engineers, CAD designers, factory workers, assemblers, quality control people, warehouse packers and forklift drivers and truck drivers, all the accountants, marketers, regulatory and sales people who take home a paycheck to their families from my medical device company would like to offier a heartfelt "FUCK OFF". Make whatever industry YOU work for nonprofit first, Marxist. Uh, the NFL is a non-profit. So are a lot of companies that pay their employees well. Non-profit =/= underpaid I work on a contract with another company that is a non-profit. All the employees that are equivalent to me make more than I do. Their senior level people are paid more. They get better benefits and health insurance. All in all, I'd rather work for that company than my own. |
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Uh, the NFL is a non-profit. So are a lot of companies that pay their employees well. Non-profit =/= underpaid I work on a contract with another company that is a non-profit. All the employees that are equivalent to me make more than I do. Their senior level people are paid more. They get better benefits and health insurance. All in all, I'd rather work for that company than my own. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable. They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world. Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something. My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem…. Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others. Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws. All the engineers, CAD designers, factory workers, assemblers, quality control people, warehouse packers and forklift drivers and truck drivers, all the accountants, marketers, regulatory and sales people who take home a paycheck to their families from my medical device company would like to offier a heartfelt "FUCK OFF". Make whatever industry YOU work for nonprofit first, Marxist. Uh, the NFL is a non-profit. So are a lot of companies that pay their employees well. Non-profit =/= underpaid I work on a contract with another company that is a non-profit. All the employees that are equivalent to me make more than I do. Their senior level people are paid more. They get better benefits and health insurance. All in all, I'd rather work for that company than my own. Okay, nevermind. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, so arguing is a waste of time. (To everyone else, unfortunately, this sort votes.) |
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Actually I've been hearing about more and more doctors bypassing the insurance game altogether. The insurance model doesn't really fit medicine anymore, that's why it doesn't work. Well that and other reasons. Insurance is for things not used much. Physicians are utilized along with higher less invasive technology. Of course those costs are artificially inflated due to interference by the government so who knows. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote I've often wondered what it would cost to go to the doctor if insurance hadn't inflated the prices. |
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Uh, the NFL is a non-profit. So are a lot of companies that pay their employees well. Non-profit =/= underpaid I work on a contract with another company that is a non-profit. All the employees that are equivalent to me make more than I do. Their senior level people are paid more. They get better benefits and health insurance. All in all, I'd rather work for that company than my own. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable. They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world. Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something. My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem…. Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others. Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws. All the engineers, CAD designers, factory workers, assemblers, quality control people, warehouse packers and forklift drivers and truck drivers, all the accountants, marketers, regulatory and sales people who take home a paycheck to their families from my medical device company would like to offier a heartfelt "FUCK OFF". Make whatever industry YOU work for nonprofit first, Marxist. Uh, the NFL is a non-profit. So are a lot of companies that pay their employees well. Non-profit =/= underpaid I work on a contract with another company that is a non-profit. All the employees that are equivalent to me make more than I do. Their senior level people are paid more. They get better benefits and health insurance. All in all, I'd rather work for that company than my own. Did you turn in your resignation yet? |
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Has anyone called dupe yet? There's already a 4-pager going on this one.
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I've often wondered what it would cost to go to the doctor if insurance hadn't inflated the prices. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Actually I've been hearing about more and more doctors bypassing the insurance game altogether. The insurance model doesn't really fit medicine anymore, that's why it doesn't work. Well that and other reasons. Insurance is for things not used much. Physicians are utilized along with higher less invasive technology. Of course those costs are artificially inflated due to interference by the government so who knows. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I've often wondered what it would cost to go to the doctor if insurance hadn't inflated the prices. High unless we get tort reform. Malpractice insurance eats most of many physicians' income. |
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Did you turn in your resignation yet? View Quote lol, don't have a job yet. Working on it. However, it was noted how well they treated their employees. If given the choice, I will be working for a company like that instead of one that only cares about how much the stock increased that quarter. |
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High unless we get tort reform. Malpractice insurance eats most of many physicians' income. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Actually I've been hearing about more and more doctors bypassing the insurance game altogether. The insurance model doesn't really fit medicine anymore, that's why it doesn't work. Well that and other reasons. Insurance is for things not used much. Physicians are utilized along with higher less invasive technology. Of course those costs are artificially inflated due to interference by the government so who knows. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I've often wondered what it would cost to go to the doctor if insurance hadn't inflated the prices. High unless we get tort reform. Malpractice insurance eats most of many physicians' income. Wouldn't a simple way around that be a contract that prohibits the patient from suing the doctor for malpractice? |
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lol, don't have a job yet. Working on it. However, it was noted how well they treated their employees. If given the choice, I will be working for a company like that instead of one that only cares about how much the stock increased that quarter. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Did you turn in your resignation yet? lol, don't have a job yet. Working on it. However, it was noted how well they treated their employees. If given the choice, I will be working for a company like that instead of one that only cares about how much the stock increased that quarter. "I work on a contract with another company that is a non-profit. All the employees that are equivalent to me make more than I do. Their senior level people are paid more. They get better benefits and health insurance. All in all, I'd rather work for that company than my own." So you don't have a job? |
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Quoted: Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others. Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable. They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world. Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something. My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem…. Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others. Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws. We have great automobile companies yet some people are forced to drive inefficient/ugly cars so we should turn Tesla Motor Company into a non-profit so everyone could afford one. We have the best homes in the world but some are forced to live in run-down apartments so we should turn home construction/development into non-profits so everyone can afford a 3500 square foot McMansion. |
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"I work on a contract with another company that is a non-profit. All the employees that are equivalent to me make more than I do. Their senior level people are paid more. They get better benefits and health insurance. All in all, I'd rather work for that company than my own." So you don't have a job? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Did you turn in your resignation yet? lol, don't have a job yet. Working on it. However, it was noted how well they treated their employees. If given the choice, I will be working for a company like that instead of one that only cares about how much the stock increased that quarter. "I work on a contract with another company that is a non-profit. All the employees that are equivalent to me make more than I do. Their senior level people are paid more. They get better benefits and health insurance. All in all, I'd rather work for that company than my own." So you don't have a job? No, I have a job as a contractor. The non-profit is also on the same contract. I work with their employees regularly. |
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We have the best food supply system in the world but still people get fat. Therefore we need to make grocery stores non-profit and have the best food for everyone. We have great automobile companies yet some people are forced to drive inefficient/ugly cars so we should turn Tesla Motor Company into a non-profit so everyone could afford one. We have the best homes in the world but some are forced to live in run-down apartments so we should turn home construction/development into non-profits so everyone can afford a 3500 square foot McMansion. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Instead of rants, we need some serious policy discussions. Both the current medical system and Obamacare are unsustainable. They (Dems=Socialists) are trashing the best health care system in the world. Does it have some issues? Yes, but passing 2000 pages of unread bullshit isn't how you "fix" something. My engine runs a little rough. No problem, we'll take over the auto industry and fix your problem…. Some issues? It has tons. We may have some of the best healthcare in the world, but we do not have the best system. Costs far too much money if you get sick. Drugs are incredibly expensive in this country, but cost a fraction in others. Mind you, I don't have another solution, except maybe to turn medical companies in to non-profits. But even that won't work without a lot of modifications to the non-profit laws. We have great automobile companies yet some people are forced to drive inefficient/ugly cars so we should turn Tesla Motor Company into a non-profit so everyone could afford one. We have the best homes in the world but some are forced to live in run-down apartments so we should turn home construction/development into non-profits so everyone can afford a 3500 square foot McMansion. Not quite the same thing. |
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Okay, how's this: get the government out of health care. Completely.
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At a prostate cancer survivors breakfast last week, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Republican, marveled at the quality of single-payer health care systems abroad and suggested the U.S. follow suit.
Amid frustration with the rollout of President Barack Obama's health care plan, some members of Congress who agree with Powell are pushing for consideration of such a system. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., introduced the American Health Security Act of 2013 on Monday, which would require states to create their own single-payer insurance systems. A House version was introduced in March by Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash. View Quote Link View Quote <<snort>> They said prostate and colin in the same sentence <<snort>> |
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