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7/27/2025 10:28:05 PM EDT
From reddit, r/guns...


Link to lawsuit


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7/27/2025 10:32:07 PM EDT
[#1]
Playing a game of chicken.
7/27/2025 10:33:28 PM EDT
[#2]
Good luck with that.
7/27/2025 10:35:02 PM EDT
[#3]
Yeah, that'll solve things!
7/27/2025 10:35:59 PM EDT
[#4]
That's not a good look for Sig and it doesn't end anything. It reeks of desperation and I say that as a Sig fan

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7/27/2025 10:36:05 PM EDT
[#5]
Fuck sig but also fuck the state of WA. I hope it cost both of them dearly
7/27/2025 10:36:37 PM EDT
[#6]
Wonder who has more money for billable hours for the lawyers?
7/27/2025 10:36:42 PM EDT
[#7]
It's almost like they are trying to go bankrupt.  Then all lawsuits are handled by the judge and creditors go in order.
7/27/2025 10:37:12 PM EDT
[#8]
They're really not understanding the spot they're in, and they couldn't be handling worse. Defiance isn't going to play well in court.
7/27/2025 10:37:22 PM EDT
[#9]
Sig has dug themselves into a major hole going all-in with the 320, so their only option is to keep digging. That cat is out of the bag now though. Nobody wants a 320, nobody is going to want a 320, and nobody is going to trust whatever the next “fix” they come up with happens to be.
7/27/2025 10:38:00 PM EDT
[#10]
7/27/2025 10:38:37 PM EDT
[#11]
Double down! Whatever you're doing, do it harder and faster!
7/27/2025 10:40:31 PM EDT
[#12]
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They're really not understanding the spot they're in, and they couldn't be handling worse. Defiance isn't going to play well in court.
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What do you expect from a company headed by a German convict.?
7/27/2025 10:41:04 PM EDT
[#13]
that seems ill advised.
7/27/2025 10:42:01 PM EDT
[#14]
Did they hire Hitler as a CEO?

Will there be a Downfall video?
7/27/2025 10:42:07 PM EDT
[#15]
Damn! Sig doesn’t know when to stop!
7/27/2025 10:43:27 PM EDT
[#16]
This is one of those fuck ups that will be legendary in five years or so.
7/27/2025 10:48:03 PM EDT
[#17]
7/27/2025 10:51:05 PM EDT
[#18]
I don’t know if they really want to be going through the discovery process in a lawsuit over the 320. There’s enough funny business with it and they’d be better served not bringing extra spotlight onto the issue.
7/27/2025 10:53:43 PM EDT
[#19]
Double Down,  Then Triple Down, and then Quadruple Down!

Damn Ron needs to go!
7/27/2025 11:08:59 PM EDT
[#20]
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Wonder who has more money for billable hours for the lawyers?
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I was going to say the entire state of Washington might have more than SIG ... But then I thought that Seattle probably defunded everything and have it all to DEI.
7/27/2025 11:21:20 PM EDT
[#21]
SIG is DONE

7/27/2025 11:24:43 PM EDT
[#22]
Washington state can withdraw the public comment and still not allow the pistol . Then what does Sig do. Try to force them to use an unsafe pistol? That is a bold strategy.
7/27/2025 11:28:47 PM EDT
[#23]
it makes sense.  if no one wants to use the pistol, they just have to sue to force people to use your pistol
7/27/2025 11:36:27 PM EDT
[#24]
Date filled June 11th.
7/27/2025 11:41:56 PM EDT
[#25]
Seems like corporate sabotage.  Its almost as if they want to fail on purpose?
7/27/2025 11:49:53 PM EDT
[#27]
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Oooooh, that could be great.
7/27/2025 11:50:32 PM EDT
[#28]
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Sig has dug themselves into a major hole going all-in with the 320, so their only option is to keep digging. That cat is out of the bag now though. Nobody wants a 320, nobody is going to want a 320, and nobody is going to trust whatever the next "fix" they come up with happens to be.
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I wouldn't mind having one of the original military trials M17, even if I never shot it.

Late war Nambu pistols were nicknamed suicide specials because you could make it fire by pressing the exposed sear.  

Doesn't make them less collectable.
7/27/2025 11:56:00 PM EDT
[#29]
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it makes sense.  if no one wants to use the pistol, they just have to sue to force people to use your pistol
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Imagine being a dead man walking because a corporation forced you to carry a faulty gun.
7/27/2025 11:58:24 PM EDT
[#30]
Fight fire with fire!
7/28/2025 12:01:29 AM EDT
[#31]
Did Sig hire Dick Swan?
7/28/2025 12:03:32 AM EDT
[#32]
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That make sense. The lawsuit was in motion before the latest waterfall of sigincidents.
7/28/2025 12:04:32 AM EDT
[#33]
In before Obama judge.
7/28/2025 12:08:56 AM EDT
[#34]
I really do want to understand how this could ever be given standing in a court. I can potentially understand the statements portion (though likely true statements so still ill advised). I don’t get how they feel they can sue a state police academy over their refusal to allow their guns. Am I missing something contract related?
7/28/2025 12:09:59 AM EDT
[#35]
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I’d watch it!
7/28/2025 12:10:38 AM EDT
[#36]
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This is one of those fuck ups that will be legendary in five years or so.
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Like the Bud Light incident
7/28/2025 12:12:55 AM EDT
[#37]
Any Washington State Jury will stick it to any gun manufacturer.
7/28/2025 12:14:28 AM EDT
[#38]
Sig might be shooting themselves in the foot with this one...  

7/28/2025 12:25:03 AM EDT
[#39]
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I really do want to understand how this could ever be given standing in a court. I can potentially understand the statements portion (though likely true statements so still ill advised). I don't get how they feel they can sue a state police academy over their refusal to allow their guns. Am I missing something contract related?
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Sig claims the academy violated the state administrative procedure act by banning the guns and not allowing Sig a chance to contest the act, Sig also alleges that since Washington State has state pre emption for gun laws the academy doesn't have authority to ban Sig pistols from the academy or their training classes-among other things
7/28/2025 12:28:49 AM EDT
[#40]
We can argue all you want about whether or not corporations are people, but they damn sure can have an ego like a person.  And a fragile one at that.
7/28/2025 12:29:55 AM EDT
[#41]
And to think, people said that Bud Lite marketing chick would never get another job.
7/28/2025 12:30:04 AM EDT
[#42]
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Any Washington State Jury will stick it to any gun manufacturer.
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It's a "Declaratory Judgment Action" so there's probably no questions of fact and no jury. I bet a judge would want nothing to do with this after the death of the Wyoming Airman.

If this happened earlier Sig might have something to talk about because the academy effectively forced police departments to sell their sigs since officers can't get official training with them anymore.
7/28/2025 12:38:21 AM EDT
[#43]
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I really do want to understand how this could ever be given standing in a court. I can potentially understand the statements portion (though likely true statements so still ill advised). I don’t get how they feel they can sue a state police academy over their refusal to allow their guns. Am I missing something contract related?
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You can sue for damn near anything you can conceive of. Whether or not it gets summarily dismissed with prejudice at the first hearing or not...that's the real question.
7/28/2025 12:39:10 AM EDT
[#44]
I see the CEO is driving the company off a cliff..
7/28/2025 12:40:51 AM EDT
[#45]
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The State of Washington or Sig? They're both living off taxpayer money.
7/28/2025 12:52:38 AM EDT
[#46]
After glancing at the papers I'm not surprised Sig did this. The academy banning Sigs effectively preventing police departments from issuing Sigs since new officers couldn't go through the academy and present officers can't get training. If sounds like three police agencies were forced to buy new guns.

Sig really should have been prepared with a duty sized 365 they could trade or sell at a discount for existing 320s. "We're not admitting anything but "
7/28/2025 2:07:11 AM EDT
[#47]
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I wouldn't mind having one of the original military trials M17, even if I never shot it.

Late war Nambu pistols were nicknamed suicide specials because you could make it fire by pressing the exposed sear.  

Doesn't make them less collectable.
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This Nambu (Type 14)

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Not the Type 94 Nambu.

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7/28/2025 2:08:41 AM EDT
[#48]
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This is a fact
7/28/2025 3:37:24 AM EDT
[#49]
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Quoted:
I wouldn't mind having one of the original military trials M17, even if I never shot it.

Late war Nambu pistols were nicknamed suicide specials because you could make it fire by pressing the exposed sear.  

Doesn't make them less collectable.



This Nambu (Type 14)

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/110515/IMG_6839_jpeg-3595713.JPG


Not the Type 94 Nambu.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/110515/IMG_6840_jpeg-3595714.JPG


I'm pretty tired but I think your pics are mislabeled.
7/28/2025 6:04:43 AM EDT
[#50]
What a bunch of morons.  By the time they get done with this, sig 320s are going to be less expensive than hi points.  

Personally, I’ll never own an sig striker fired pistol. There simply too many competitive, safe products to even risk dealing with something like that.

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