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Posted: 4/16/2001 6:42:09 PM EDT
Proposed NYS Senate Bill that:

"Regulates the sale of ammunition; requires imprinting of a serial number on each bullet jacket and bullet lead; requires sellers of ammunition to maintain records of all sales."


Link Posted: 4/16/2001 7:00:51 PM EDT
I'm curious of a couple of things:

1.  What keeps the serial number from getting rubbed off or mutilated from the rifling during firing?

2.  How will you read the serial number from a deformed or fragmented bullet once it is retrieved?

3.  What will this do to bullet accuracy and stability?

4.  100 bullets in a 90 day period?  What are the competitive shooters suppossed to do?

I don't expect any answers to these questions as it is obvious to me that the simpleton's in the NY legislature are not very bright folks or they wouldn't have introduced such an asinine bill in the first place.

Whatever will they think of next.  I guess the NYer's are just trying to stay a step ahead of the Californian's and their microchip idea!
Link Posted: 4/16/2001 7:04:03 PM EDT
And this didnt come from ca.
Link Posted: 4/16/2001 7:41:50 PM EDT
drjakeb, don't be too quick in underestimating the intelligence of NY's left leaning politicians. Seems to me that if this bill becomes law, it will amount to a defacto ban on all future ammo sales in the state.
Think about it... do you really think that Winchester, Remington, Speer, etc. are going to make special lots of ammo that conform to these stupid, unrealistic, and unconstitutional regulations?
I think not!  It would not be cost effective.
  Never underestimate your enemy. NY Democrats are devious Socialists, but they are not stupid!
Link Posted: 4/16/2001 7:56:23 PM EDT
Oh, I almost forgot. All NY members should contact their State Senators ASAP, and maybe we can squash this bill before it ever sees a vote!
God, I need to move out of this state! [pissed]
Link Posted: 4/16/2001 8:25:57 PM EDT
Stupid politicians
Link Posted: 4/16/2001 8:32:08 PM EDT
here is one!  what about people that reload and people that cast their own bullets.  where do they fit in.....
Link Posted: 4/16/2001 8:47:39 PM EDT
I used to think there should be a minimum IQ to get a driver's lisence.  I would like to extend the minimum IQ requirement for becoming a politician.
Link Posted: 4/16/2001 8:54:23 PM EDT
all i can say is i am glad i left ny when i did (although colo is getting kalifornicated more every day) do you really think the republicans in office give a damn?
hell they don't even stand behind the boys in blue. and with people voting in billary as well as keeping shumer in office it looks like youseguyz gottsa big problem....
one more tidbit to add here.
it will be a sad day when the drug dealers stop selling drugs because it will be more profitable selling ammo!!!!!!
yo yo yo gots me some 9mm check it out
Link Posted: 4/16/2001 9:02:20 PM EDT
I know some of you didn't, but what do expect from a state of people that voted Hillary into office!!!!Here's to you, New York liberal voters and politicians[-!-!-]
Link Posted: 4/16/2001 9:13:34 PM EDT
Is this for real? Or is this another one of those "Hey, SB203 wan't to charge 5 cents on every email....."

If it's for real, it just proves that anti-gunners don't know shit from crap. Serialize bullets, gimmie a break.

I agree, what about reloaders and match shooters? Hmm, I shoot 176 rounds just for a 2 day weekend match, and that's not counting fun shoots and practice or friends bumming ammo. Not to mention that's PER GUN!!!


Link Posted: 4/16/2001 10:12:28 PM EDT
M4Guy, yes, this is real, and it is too important to ignore!  
Link Posted: 4/16/2001 10:20:36 PM EDT
This has been talked about for years, NY is just the first to act on it.

Link Posted: 4/16/2001 10:23:23 PM EDT
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I wonder if they mean bullets with their names on them?                          
Link Posted: 4/16/2001 10:29:35 PM EDT
It gets better! I heard you'll have to fill out a transfer form on each bullet you buy and bullets will not be sold in box's of 50 or 25 anymore they will be single rounds in small zip lock bags with the serial numbers matching on bag, case and bullet.Your best bet will be to buy bulk ammo from the guy in the alley. He is selling 5 round bags for only $125.00 each.Sorry, but I have to joke about everything that is my way. If I don't it will get to me and then it will be a very bad thing.....

Link Posted: 4/17/2001 12:11:41 AM EDT
NY people need to be VERY QUIET, SSSSHHHHHHUSH, we dont need to give the kalif democraps any new ideas
Link Posted: 4/17/2001 12:15:57 AM EDT
100 rounds in 90 days?   That means you can only kill a  little less than 1 person per day!  Hmm, that IS more than I kill now...

How about factory sealed, single shot rifles only?

You fire the gun once, it is then returned to  the dealer and recycled back at the factory.  Only the factory can disassemble the weapon and reload it.

Yeah, that's the ticket.  NOT.
Link Posted: 4/17/2001 1:18:17 AM EDT
Billions of bullets.
Link Posted: 4/17/2001 1:28:19 AM EDT
For areas where they believe there is a lot of ammo around they will have Ammo buy back programs. You will get a coupon for a free taco at taco bell for every round you turn in.
WoooooHooooo! Free Tacos for life!

Link Posted: 4/17/2001 1:40:51 AM EDT
What ammo manufacturer would even bother to comply with this legislation?  You wouldn't have to bother buying 100 in a 90 day period because there isn't going to be any on the shelves to buy.
Link Posted: 4/17/2001 3:42:37 AM EDT
Hillary strikes again! Hell.....now i`ll have to drive over the border for my next 1000 rd case....damn!.......[shotgun]
Link Posted: 4/17/2001 8:33:45 AM EDT
Angry, line in the sand BUMP.
Link Posted: 4/17/2001 8:40:37 AM EDT
I guess this will put some varmiters out of buisness since they will have to ban ballistic tip rounds
Link Posted: 4/17/2001 8:44:49 AM EDT
WOW!!! Serial numbered wheel weights,,serial numbered copper tubing at all the stores and homes/construction sites because somebody could use as jacket material. What's next Hillary and Chuckie??
Link Posted: 4/17/2001 8:46:50 AM EDT
how the hell would a brick of 22's sell

Now  imagine the tool to etch a serial # on a 22 lol
Link Posted: 4/17/2001 9:08:36 AM EDT
These socialist lawmakers are going to become intimate with lampposts if they keep this up...
Link Posted: 4/17/2001 9:20:04 AM EDT
Nice Socialist democrap idea, but it won't fly. Too expensive.  More than a few NYers have their heads up thier @sses.
Link Posted: 4/17/2001 9:20:08 AM EDT
I am sick and tired of this fucking state.

Pataki is going to lose the next election if I have anything to say. He just cost me another $50 for this ballistic fingerprinting crock of shit.....

Hillary and Schummer, well we all know about those two. They are trying to buy off the Northeast with a "Roof Top" highway or something.

Can we tell NYC to go to hell and the rest of us live in peace. I would think Vermont could use some additional realestate......

Most respectfully,

Dan Tucker
Upstate NY
Link Posted: 4/17/2001 9:28:59 AM EDT
this whole subject is D.O.A. before it even comes up for a vote.
Link Posted: 4/17/2001 9:36:33 AM EDT
Originally Posted By NY Patriot:
Oh, I almost forgot. All NY members should contact their State Senators ASAP, and maybe we can squash this bill before it ever sees a vote!
God, I need to move out of this state! [pissed]
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you and me both, and do you really think the pos polititions in this state give a damn about us firearms owners? remember, we el;ected klinton again.
Link Posted: 4/17/2001 9:36:51 AM EDT
Mark the bullets? I hope the dumb asses dont read this but If I was a dumb ass and not a smart ass I would mark the barrels,so each bullet has a bar code on it.
Link Posted: 4/17/2001 2:52:12 PM EDT
I live in NY for 35 years. Every year I see more and more s it. I have said it before this state is against you. They want to take you tax dollars and make you a slave to the state. It just shows you that if they can propose this they are not afraid of the back lash. Why? Because there is not enough of one for them to be afraid. The people are grand A idiots here. One right after the next.
Link Posted: 4/17/2001 3:49:11 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/18/2001 4:26:31 AM EDT
What about lead/steel shot? I propose that all shot be serialized, registered and recorded. I am also in favor of a limit of 100 shot pellets per 90 day period.

The sad part is the taxpayers are footing the bill for the administrative costs for this wacky legislation.
Link Posted: 4/18/2001 5:23:05 AM EDT
Lead shot will have 1 nuber each on it..... it's the responsibility of the person who finds spent lead shot to put them back in the right order to read the serial #. And to be able to explain in court how they know that is the right order.

Why don't they just make it against the law to commit crimes with guns, threaten people with guns, and use guns recklessly or negligently.



Maybe the should require all criminals to have a list of the felonies they've been convicted of tattoed on them starting on thier forehread.
Link Posted: 4/18/2001 5:43:07 AM EDT
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