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Posted: 1/18/2006 6:45:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/18/2006 7:02:16 AM EDT by vito113]
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 6:56:46 AM EDT
vito could you please fix the pics?
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 7:03:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 7:39:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/18/2006 7:40:08 AM EDT by DeltaAir423]

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By DeltaAir423:
vito could you please fix the pics?



Fixed now! I hope!...that will teach me to pull them straight off the photo server....




Fixed and they look great, much like the US Navy F-14, the Royal Navy has lost a fine aircraft with the Sea Harrier retirement.



BTW: Rolls Royce Turbines are the shit, but jeeze that Pegasus is one loud MoFo.

Ok maybe I'm biased, Dad works for RR in Indianapolis, IN on the Allison designed POS 3007.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 8:06:31 AM EDT
wtf, why ?!?!
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 8:08:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MuRDoC:
wtf, why ?!?!



Putting their eggs in the F-35 basket. A little premature, it seems. Why not keep the FRS2s until the f-35 comes on line, if ever? They are relatively new, I think.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 8:09:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MuRDoC:
wtf, why ?!?!



because paybacks a bitch!
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 8:33:30 AM EDT
You don't need carriers, you have us to protect you
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 8:39:18 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 8:40:11 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 8:54:19 AM EDT
Sorry you are being Canada-ized.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 8:58:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/18/2006 8:59:12 AM EDT by vito113]
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 9:02:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By scrum:
Sorry you are being Canada-ized.



Nah..

....We just ordered two of these and 160 F-35's to go with them..

img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/macandy/CVFfront2copy.gif


taking off of that deck would be pretty interesting. Why did they decide to slope it up like that?
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 9:28:43 AM EDT
Thieir carriers do not use a steam catapult system, and at least with the Harrier, it can't do a vertical take off with full fuel and ordinance. Also heard that having similar problems with the F-35
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 9:57:30 AM EDT
Calling Argentina...

Their Slammer equipped birds are gone....

Better act now before those CV's and F-35s get built
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 10:08:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/18/2006 10:08:39 AM EDT by ArmedAggie]

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By MuRDoC:
wtf, why ?!?!



There is nothing wrong with the Harriers, plenty of life in them, more than enough to last till the F-35's come online.

The Admirals are pissed as hell, but the Politicians shitcanned the Sea Harriers to save money.

As one Politician told us.."The Royal Navy will not be engaging in offensive operations without the US alongside"....It apparently had not occured to the fuckwit that we just might be off doing something on our own...

ANdy



Nevermind the fact that it is not the responsibility of the U.S. to provide military services to the UK. Fist we act unilaterally now we are required to do so because no one else has the tools?

Oh, and if this saves money for the UK imagine how much cancelling the orders for those two expensive carriers and F-35s will save. Besides, the U.S. will be buying them so why should the UK waste money duplicating the capability? Sorry, Andy, I see this going no other way for you guys. You will never see those carriers or F-35s.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 12:11:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/18/2006 12:31:25 PM EDT by vito113]
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 12:15:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By ArmedAggie:
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By MuRDoC:
Sorry, Andy, I see this going no other way for you guys. You will never see those carriers or F-35s.



The ink's on the contracts and money has been spent...

$1.85 Billion by BAe to date on the F-35 and $500 million (plus a deal with the Phrench to help build a 3rd ofthe class for them) on the Carriers...

ANdy



Does the Phrench contract include a barrel of Loc-Tite 277 for the screws?
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 12:17:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:

As one Politician told us.."The Royal Navy will not be engaging in offensive operations without the US alongside"....It apparently had not occured to the fuckwit that we just might be off doing something on our own...

ANdy



What? How could they forget the Falklands? There are times when British interest and American interests aren't the same.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 12:21:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DeltaAir423:
Thieir carriers do not use a steam catapult system, and at least with the Harrier, it can't do a vertical take off with full fuel and ordinance. Also heard that having similar problems with the F-35



The brits pioneered the steam catapult. Heck they pioneered two of the three most important developments for the modern carrier... steam catapult and angled flight deck. US pioneered atomic powered carriers.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 12:32:37 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 12:36:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/18/2006 12:40:19 PM EDT by vito113]
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 12:38:43 PM EDT



....We just ordered two of these and 160 F-35's to go with them..

img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/macandy/CVFfront2copy.gif





You know, those carriers really need angled flight decks.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 2:22:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By arbob:



....We just ordered two of these and 160 F-35's to go with them..

img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/macandy/CVFfront2copy.gif





You know, those carriers really need angled flight decks.



I think they're setup for an angled deck. If I remember correctly, the ski jump will be replaced with electromagnetic catapults when the tech matures.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 3:10:53 PM EDT
I still think that new carrier type is going to be beautiful !
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:13:59 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 7:47:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By MuRDoC:
wtf, why ?!?!



There is nothing wrong with the Harriers, plenty of life in them, more than enough to last till the F-35's come online.

The Admirals are pissed as hell, but the Politicians shitcanned the Sea Harriers to save money.

As one Politician told us.."The Royal Navy will not be engaging in offensive operations without the US alongside"....It apparently had not occured to the fuckwit that we just might be off doing something on our own...

ANdy



The RN did quite well during the Falkland Islands War.

fuckwit indeed



Link Posted: 1/18/2006 7:56:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bostonterrier97:

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By MuRDoC:
wtf, why ?!?!



There is nothing wrong with the Harriers, plenty of life in them, more than enough to last till the F-35's come online.

The Admirals are pissed as hell, but the Politicians shitcanned the Sea Harriers to save money.

As one Politician told us.."The Royal Navy will not be engaging in offensive operations without the US alongside"....It apparently had not occured to the fuckwit that we just might be off doing something on our own...

ANdy



The RN did quite well during the Falkland Islands War.

fuckwit indeed






Would have done a lot better and lost fewer ships if they had put ANYONE other than a SUBMARINER in charge of air assets.

And if it had to be a Submariner at least get one with the wisdom to let the pros do their job without being told HOW to do it.

I read Sandy Woodwards (Fleet Admiral) book and Sharkey Wards (Commander 801 Squadron, Sea Harrier) book.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 11:12:04 PM EDT
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