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| Had a Smith 681. It got shot A LOT. Frame cracked behind the firing pin bushing, allowing recoil to push the bushing out of the frame to the rear. Sent it to Smith for repair. They shipped it back, "too bad, so sad, nothing we can do about it". A good TIG welder could fix it with a few tack welds. I buy Ruger revolvers now. |
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Originally Posted By packinheavy: I'm in the process of buying a .45 ACP 625 Mountain Gun. Originally Posted By packinheavy: Originally Posted By 03RN: Originally Posted By KILLERB6: I think @O3RN has one… I have a 625 mountain gun https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433221/1000005523_jpg-3827529.JPG One of my most shot and carried guns I'm in the process of buying a .45 ACP 625 Mountain Gun. I really hope they come put with new ones. Same with the m22-4. The square butt thunder ranch one is one of my grail guns. Especially if they take the hole out |
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Originally Posted By grayhairedgrump: Had a Smith 681. It got shot A LOT. Frame cracked behind the firing pin bushing, allowing recoil to push the bushing out of the frame to the rear. Sent it to Smith for repair. They shipped it back, "too bad, so sad, nothing we can do about it". A good TIG welder could fix it with a few tack welds. I buy Ruger revolvers now. Gp100s aren't any stronger than L frames. |
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Originally Posted By W_E_G: I've heard some folks complain about QC issues on the new ones. Barrel alignment IIRC. Maybe something to do with alignment of the grip panels too. I'm sure if you google it, the complaints can be found. What are they?.... 3 to 4 ounces lighter than same barrel length in standard model? Othewise its a 29 with catchy logo and some swell grips (if the current-production grips don't have a QC issue). The taper-barrel is pretty. I have a four-inch 29-2 (non "Mountain Gun"). If I'm shooting MAGNUM ammo, I'm glad for every ounce it has. I think the internet has forgotten how much a full-power 44 magnum recoils. And MUZZLE BLAST. I think the new ones DO NOT have a Hillary Hole. Some of the older ones don't have a HH either. A friend of mine bought the first version when they came out in the 80's. Serious problem with cylinder counter-rotation on recoil when firing full power 44 magnum ammo. Good feature for working on your flinch. My 29 is not an EDC - but I won't disrespect it by calling it a "range toy." Its certainly not photogenic by any comparative standard. I like to run a load that allows me to shoot more than one cylinder before the bones in my forearm start squawking. The mountain gun grips are Skeeter-Skelton-nostalgic I might have to get a set someday. In the meantime, the ugly pach's help some with recoil. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/105614/IMG_8667_jpeg-3828172.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/105614/IMG_8666_jpeg-3828173.JPG Damn! I really like your load labeling technique. sure beats my hand written scrawl on post it notes. 
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Originally Posted By 03RN: I really hope they come put with new ones. Same with the m22-4. The square butt thunder ranch one is one of my grail guns. Especially if they take the hole out Didn’t even know that was an option I thought it was just 44 or 357 45 ACP might be able to handle 45 super tight? And 45 super would be equivalent to 44 mag? |
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Originally Posted By Glock4140: Didn’t even know that was an option I thought it was just 44 or 357 45 ACP might be able to handle 45 super tight? And 45 super would be equivalent to 44 mag? Originally Posted By Glock4140: Originally Posted By 03RN: I really hope they come put with new ones. Same with the m22-4. The square butt thunder ranch one is one of my grail guns. Especially if they take the hole out Didn’t even know that was an option I thought it was just 44 or 357 45 ACP might be able to handle 45 super tight? And 45 super would be equivalent to 44 mag? It can handle .45 super but .45 super is more equivalent to .357/10mm. I use .45 win mag brass in my .45 colt MG but I keep it to .45 colt levels. 270@1000fps |
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Originally Posted By mannyCA: Damn! I really like your load labeling technique. sure beats my hand written scrawl on post it notes. I’m getting old. Been sick for a good spell. No cures. I’m getting near the point I gotta give away a whole lot of ammo. I hope my attention to detail in labeling is such that the recipient will have confidence that the ammo is safe. “Somebody else’s handloads…” |
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Originally Posted By Glock4140: So you can shoot 45 ACP or 45 super in a 45 colt? If you cut the cylinder for rimless ammo, the cylinder can take 45ACP pressure with moon clips. Your best bet if you want to shoot 45ACP load data in a revolver is to skip the modifications and moons. just buy a some 45 auto-rim brass. STARLINE sells it. You can buy a lot of auto-rim brass for the money you would spend on modifying the Long Colt cylinder. 45 SUPER isn’t that super. I suspect it will work fine at “super” pressures in a modern 45 Long Colt cylinder cut for moons. |
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Originally Posted By W_E_G: If you cut the cylinder for rimless ammo, the cylinder can take 45ACP pressure with moon clips. Your best bet if you want to shoot 45ACP load data in a revolver is to skip the modifications and moons. just buy a some 45 auto-rim brass. STARLINE sells it. You can buy a lot of auto-rim brass for the money you would spend on modifying the Long Colt cylinder. 45 SUPER isn’t that super. I suspect it will work fine at “super” pressures in a modern 45 Long Colt cylinder cut for moons. Originally Posted By W_E_G: Originally Posted By Glock4140: So you can shoot 45 ACP or 45 super in a 45 colt? If you cut the cylinder for rimless ammo, the cylinder can take 45ACP pressure with moon clips. Your best bet if you want to shoot 45ACP load data in a revolver is to skip the modifications and moons. just buy a some 45 auto-rim brass. STARLINE sells it. You can buy a lot of auto-rim brass for the money you would spend on modifying the Long Colt cylinder. 45 SUPER isn’t that super. I suspect it will work fine at “super” pressures in a modern 45 Long Colt cylinder cut for moons. It doesn't really make sense to use auto rim brass in the .45 colt. You'll lose 1-200fps vs an acp chamber due to the dimensions. I use win mag brass |
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Originally Posted By 03RN: Gp100s aren't any stronger than L frames. Originally Posted By 03RN: Originally Posted By grayhairedgrump: Had a Smith 681. It got shot A LOT. Frame cracked behind the firing pin bushing, allowing recoil to push the bushing out of the frame to the rear. Sent it to Smith for repair. They shipped it back, "too bad, so sad, nothing we can do about it". A good TIG welder could fix it with a few tack welds. I buy Ruger revolvers now. Gp100s aren't any stronger than L frames. But Ruger would probably repair or replace a cracked GP100 frame. |
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Attached File Moonclips rock I need like a Deerfield carbine in .45 win mag |
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Originally Posted By curiomatic: But Ruger would probably repair or replace a cracked GP100 frame. Originally Posted By curiomatic: Originally Posted By 03RN: Originally Posted By grayhairedgrump: Had a Smith 681. It got shot A LOT. Frame cracked behind the firing pin bushing, allowing recoil to push the bushing out of the frame to the rear. Sent it to Smith for repair. They shipped it back, "too bad, so sad, nothing we can do about it". A good TIG welder could fix it with a few tack welds. I buy Ruger revolvers now. Gp100s aren't any stronger than L frames. But Ruger would probably repair or replace a cracked GP100 frame. Yeah but then you're still stuck with a clunky gun 
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Originally Posted By Windustsearch: Ruger double actions look like they've been pre-digested and barfed up into the box. Originally Posted By Windustsearch: Originally Posted By 03RN: Yeah but then you're still stuck with a clunky gun I could get it if they looked nice or were cheaper but I really dont get why anyone would choose ruger gp100s over an L frame |
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Originally Posted By Coffin-Nail: Former employees are members here and have posted what the issues are. The QC is almost nonexistent, they only want you there if you can hit certain productivity numbers. If you can't assemble guns properly in allotted time you won't continue working there. Send it out the door. People who care and want to take their time to correct issues and put out well built guns aren't welcome there. The customer is the QC unfortunately |
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Originally Posted By 03RN: Gp100s aren't any stronger than L frames. Originally Posted By 03RN: Originally Posted By grayhairedgrump: Had a Smith 681. It got shot A LOT. Frame cracked behind the firing pin bushing, allowing recoil to push the bushing out of the frame to the rear. Sent it to Smith for repair. They shipped it back, "too bad, so sad, nothing we can do about it". A good TIG welder could fix it with a few tack welds. I buy Ruger revolvers now. Gp100s aren't any stronger than L frames. Ruger would have repair or replaced though |
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Originally Posted By 03RN: I have a 625 mountain gun https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433221/1000005523_jpg-3827529.JPG One of my most shot and carried guns Originally Posted By 03RN: Originally Posted By KILLERB6: I think @O3RN has one… I have a 625 mountain gun https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433221/1000005523_jpg-3827529.JPG One of my most shot and carried guns Me too. Bought my two new in 1990s when they were first offered. 45 Colt and 41 Mag. |
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I am a S&W guy but will admit that for whatever reason quality has taken a solid dip. S&W triggers are generally decent but can be made quite good by swapping out springs. Always buy the gun from a brick and mortar store . I recommend you take a close look paying attention that the barrel , rib and front sight is not canted left or right. Check that both front and rear sights are solid and don't wooble. Look in the chambers and barrel watching out for machine marks. Last new S&W I bought new about 5 or 6 years back (model 66) was a silly search to about 6 different gun stores before I found one that didn't have obvious flaws. Turned out the gun I bought had the incorrect front sight that didn't allow any hits on the paper. S&W claimed they couldn't send me a front sight and wanted the gun shipped to them on my dime and could promise no better than a 4 week turnaround . I bought the sight from Brownells and installed it myself |
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Originally Posted By tc556guy: I missed out on a pre-lock mountain gun in 45 LC years ago and I still regret it I feel your pain on that one brother. I got one with the lawyer hole later but I still kick myself for not jumping early on a pre-lock one. The lawyer lock hole plug fixes any possible issue. I’ve heard of the things locking up but never actually talked to anyone who had it happen. Nevertheless, it can be done away with. Mines a fun gun and I don’t mind toting around and shooting it cause it ain’t perfect. |
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Originally Posted By 03RN: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433221/1000005740_jpg-3830687.JPG Moonclips rock I need like a Deerfield carbine in .45 win mag I'm intrigued. Is it a .45 Colt cut to take moon clips or a .45 ACP with lengthened chambers? |
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Originally Posted By LeadBreakfast: .41 mag is outstanding. Mine is not a mountain gun, but an old model 57. Big boom, big power, flat trajectory. Very minimal difference from .44 mag, but a little flatter shooting. Ole Elmer thought the same. 210 grains at over 1,400fps is potent medicine for anything that needs killing. Attached File refinished in NP3+ |
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Originally Posted By grayhairedgrump: I doubt that very much, but the point is moot. I replaced the 681 with an 8 shot Redhawk .357 magnum. Your point is moot. You replaced a mid sized gun with a large framed gun. I carried a redhawk for a year. Its a totally different experience than an l frame. |
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Originally Posted By packinheavy: I'm intrigued. Is it a .45 Colt cut to take moon clips or a .45 ACP with lengthened chambers? Originally Posted By packinheavy: Originally Posted By 03RN: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433221/1000005740_jpg-3830687.JPG Moonclips rock I need like a Deerfield carbine in .45 win mag I'm intrigued. Is it a .45 Colt cut to take moon clips or a .45 ACP with lengthened chambers? Mine is a 45 colt cut for moon clips. 45 acp loses like 200fps in a colt chamber so I use win mag brass |
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I had one about 20 years ago but wound up selling it since I lived in Florida and didn't have any real use for it. Nice gun. Wish I had it now since I live in grizzly country. But I did pick up a nice 4-inch Ruger Redhawk the other day and it's pretty sweet. And cost a lot less. |
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Originally Posted By 03RN: Yeah but then you're still stuck with a clunky gun Originally Posted By 03RN: Originally Posted By curiomatic: Originally Posted By 03RN: Originally Posted By grayhairedgrump: Had a Smith 681. It got shot A LOT. Frame cracked behind the firing pin bushing, allowing recoil to push the bushing out of the frame to the rear. Sent it to Smith for repair. They shipped it back, "too bad, so sad, nothing we can do about it". A good TIG welder could fix it with a few tack welds. I buy Ruger revolvers now. Gp100s aren't any stronger than L frames. But Ruger would probably repair or replace a cracked GP100 frame. Yeah but then you're still stuck with a clunky gun I'd rather have a clunky gun that works than a busted paperweight/gun. Ruger replaced the barrel on my Bisley Blackhawk .41 Mag when the bore started pitting under the front sight. I told them that I had fired more than 1,200 full power handloads through it, and they said, "no problem". I also mentioned that I got a "flyer" out of every cylinder fired. I got it back with a new barrel and no flyer. I was impressed with their customer service. |
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Originally Posted By thorm001: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/160746/IMG_5904_jpeg-3830935.JPG refinished in NP3+ Outstanding! |
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