SS# needed to join shooting range ??

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - SS# needed to join shooting range ??

Posted: 8/28/2005 9:12:19 AM EDT

http://www.sjerseyshootingclub.com/index.html

You have got to be kidding me ? No way in hell do they need to know or have a right to ask your SS#
I agree it good to be a member of the NRA but they all so froce that too.
What up with this stuff ?

Posted: 8/28/2005 9:14:35 AM EDT

[#1]

I don't give out my number unless it is absolutly necessary and who ever can explane to me why they need to have it. Hell, I don't even put it on 4473 forms.

The kids school said that they needed it for their school records, as of yet, they don't have it.

It is one number that I safe guard well.

Posted: 8/28/2005 9:16:13 AM EDT

[#2]

Lots of clubs require NRA membership, but social security number? Not sure I trust the officers of the local shooting range and their spouses, kids, babysitters, drunken brother in laws and who ever else might have access to the list of soc sec numbers with that info.

Posted: 8/28/2005 9:18:33 AM EDT

[#3]

If they force you to give it to them then just make up a number. Unless they ask to see your social security card there is no way for them to know.

Posted: 8/28/2005 9:24:24 AM EDT

[#4]

This could be for insurance. You could be a 'named' insured on the policy. That would be great to exclude yourself by giving fraudulent info. Perhaps you should ask them if this is why they need it?

Posted: 8/28/2005 9:26:32 AM EDT

[#5]

It was and may still be a requirement at lima (Ohio) Sabres.

But it's ok, they were just using it to do NCIC background checks on the new members.

Posted: 8/28/2005 9:40:51 AM EDT

[#6]

When unusual requests for my SSN# comes up , I always ask them in return:

"Why....do you plan on making contributions to my retirement?"

Posted: 8/28/2005 9:42:39 AM EDT

[#7]

ask if they'll accept your driver's license number.

Posted: 8/28/2005 9:44:11 AM EDT

[#8]

Tell em to go fuck themselves and draw down on them.

Posted: 8/28/2005 9:47:36 AM EDT

[#9]

I would not give my SS#, DL# or DOB to a person or organization that was not required by law to collect such information.

Posted: 8/28/2005 10:00:42 AM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
Perhaps you should ask them if this is why they need it?

My guess is that it's a Record Key. By using your SSN they don't have to create their own membership numbers and also don't have to worry about dupes like names. Many states do this with drivers license numbers.

Quoted:
If they force you to give it to them then just make up a number. Unless they ask to see your social security card there is no way for them to know.

When I get in a spot where rightfully witholding my SSN is going to cause a problem, I just use this one - 078-05-1120

Posted: 8/28/2005 11:01:11 AM EDT

[#11]

When my SS# is requested by anyone other than my employer (who knows it) or the IRS, I refuse. If they insist I reply that I safeguard my SS# to prevent ID theft, fraud, etc. Then I tell them that if they really must have my SS#, I will need theirs, and to see their DL, so that I can make a record of the information for future reference. They, of course, ask why I want THEIR SS#. I tell them, if I have any ID theft problems, I will give the police YOUR name, DL info, and SS#, so they can investigate you for possible fraud.

They always back down.

Posted: 8/28/2005 11:17:01 AM EDT

[#12]

You can use mine - I'll just make up a new one.

374-61-6738

Posted: 8/28/2005 12:56:41 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
ask if they'll accept your driver's license number.

Thay want that too !!

Posted: 8/28/2005 1:30:26 PM EDT

[#14]

unless i am mistaken that is a violation of law. SSN's are NOT to be used as a form of identification.

Posted: 8/29/2005 10:26:06 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
unless i am mistaken that is a violation of law. SSN's are NOT to be used as a form of identification.

I think you are correct. IIRC it was a fed law passed not too long ago.

Posted: 8/29/2005 10:30:16 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
Quoted:
unless i am mistaken that is a violation of law. SSN's are NOT to be used as a form of identification.

I think you are correct. IIRC it was a fed law passed not too long ago.

I'm not sure if this federal or state law, but a few years back, my local credit union used the SSN as an account number, but a few years back they got rid of that system because they say it was unlawful.

sam1963: If they insist on that number, make one up and give it to them. Those folks have zero legitimate reason for having that type of info.

Posted: 8/29/2005 10:31:25 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
ask if they'll accept your driver's license number.

I wouldn't give that number either, because people in the know can assume your identity. In Calif the D/L number is a form of id.

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