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Posted: 9/10/2005 11:51:29 AM EDT
This ammo would be for SHTF situations and would be used in a Bushmaster M4gery and Arsenal AK .223...


Please give me some opinions...

www.georgia-arms.com/rifle_ammo.htm
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 11:57:36 AM EDT
Go with EXTREME SHOK ammo for shtf.

Later this year they are going to introduce the " Air Looter" round.

It disables the looter but keeps the Heineken in tact.
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 11:58:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2005 12:09:50 PM EDT by thompsondd]
I just keep stockpiles of LC XM193 for SHTF.

I am adding some other rounds, most noticably BH 75 and 77 grain, for a couple of rifles that prefer the heavier rounds.


Originally Posted By Triumph955i:
Go with EXTREME SHOK ammo for shtf.

Later this year they are going to introduce the " Air Looter" round.

It disables the looter but keeps the Heineken in tact.





I predict a photoshop job in 10, 9, 8, 7,.......................................
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 12:05:05 PM EDT
I use Hornady 75 gr. TAP Urban (Red Box)

#1 It's very accurate at 25 yards. Colt M4 carbine.

#2 I practiced firing 100 rounds at life size maniquins in room to room self-defense situations.
(a very pricey day)

#3 I feel very confident in the round in a self-defense confrontation.
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 12:26:19 PM EDT
I'm seriously thinking of the 62gr SS109 Green Tip ammo.


It has a heavier slug that might be useful in the shorter AK and short AR right?

Plus, it's cheaper.
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 12:39:07 PM EDT
Biggest baddest and heaviest bullet I can get. Heck, if 77grainers were an option I would pick those.
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 12:41:29 PM EDT
I have a bunch of 55g Ballistic Tip rounds reloaded. A bunch.
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 1:14:27 PM EDT
I have switched my SHTF load to 55gr Blitz Kings. No more Mr. Nice guy
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 1:36:52 PM EDT
My question is this:

Why should I choose 55gr Full Metal Jacket over 62gr SS109 Green Tip Full Metal Jacket?

Link Posted: 9/10/2005 1:39:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/10/2005 1:45:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2005 1:46:09 PM EDT by GySgtD]
"Why should I choose 55gr Full Metal Jacket over 62gr SS109 Green Tip Full Metal Jacket?"


The conventional wisdom (at least on the ammo forum) is that the 55 grain round more reliably fragments, and that the 62 grain round does not have any benefit whatsoever except at several hundred yards out.
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 2:30:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GySgtD:
"Why should I choose 55gr Full Metal Jacket over 62gr SS109 Green Tip Full Metal Jacket?"


The conventional wisdom (at least on the ammo forum) is that the 55 grain round more reliably fragments, and that the 62 grain round does not have any benefit whatsoever except at several hundred yards out.



55 gr for ~200 yds. or less.
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 8:53:41 PM EDT
We're talking SHTF here...why would you want to use FMJ ammo? I want the nastiest, biggest hole making bullet I can find. In .223, that's got to be some sort of hunting/varmint round like the Blitz King or the Nosler Ballistic Tips.
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 11:15:19 PM EDT
None of the above.

75Gn or 77Gn OTM for me.
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 11:41:22 PM EDT
anything i can get in bulk, if its a true SHTF type of day your going to need ammo and lots of it. buying hornady V-max ballistic tip is nice but i cant seem to find it in a 1000K pack for cheap.
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 11:54:48 PM EDT
I love my AR, if it is what I have available at the time then I'd choose the 55grn Ballistic tip over the other choices. you give up the penetration of the FMj and SS109 in exchange for far better terminal performance on "soft material incursion".

I've read that the newest Evans / Marshall report gives the 40 grn HP rnd near 100% one-shot torso stops. I still like the ballistic tip stuff for window glass and minor barrier penetration while still giving decent terminal performance.

If however, I am able to complete my next project before "chaos reigns" so to speak then I will use an FN/FAL with good .308 fodder. If SHTF is the case then I will not care about the backstop so much.

I know it's significantly heavier but, it's definitely a terd anchor.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 12:43:18 PM EDT
Milsurp for SHTF. Gets you a primer seal and if you buy in bulk, already sealed into battle packs and ammo cans.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 12:43:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:
Go with EXTREME SHOK ammo for shtf.

Later this year they are going to introduce the " Air Looter" round.

It disables the looter but keeps the Heineken in tact.

Link Posted: 9/12/2005 1:33:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/12/2005 2:09:17 PM EDT by Jack19]
For SHTF, shoot whatever fires accurately in your weapon. If you think it's important beyond this.....you've never faced SHTF.

Ammunition reliability and firearm reliability are primary....the grains of the bullet are incidental.

Link Posted: 9/12/2005 1:33:36 PM EDT
By SHTF, I assume you are talking about a rather large stockpile and not just a few hundred rounds. For that purpose I would seek mil-spec M193. It combines the best lethality and affordability better than anything else out there.
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