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Posted: 1/2/2017 10:14:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/18/2018 12:32:56 AM EST by EVR]
Think you can shoot 3 MOA All Day from an unsupported position?

Give it a go!

"Official" ARFCOM "Position Shooting Association" {PSA} Challenge!!*

Actual Shooters Want YOU!!! ...To join the "Official" Position Shooting Association!!
This is an Equal Opportunity Challenge! We are not discriminating!

FOR FIRST TIME VIEWERS:

ALL rifles allowed. Getcher butts out there and shoot!

Anything goes; bolt guns, autos, single shots, sub-MOA, multi-MOA, anything. Just pay close attention to the rules and get your scores on the board!!

Membership Requirements:
Follow the rules below, shoot, post your pix, complete entry and you will be placed on the Challenge Board receiving all the financial benefits {none} and all the social benefits {bragging rights} of Full Membership! So toss the keyboard away, roll off the couch and stand behind a rifle for 3 minutes and join the Association TODAY!

{Here's the old thread:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1744566_Real-Shooters-Wanted----SHTF-Challenge----Keyboard-Commandos-Stay-Home-.html }

{{{Formerly known as the SHTF Challenge}}}

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RULE­S:

1} 100 yards, 15 shots within 3 minutes.

2} All shooting must be UN-supported and NO prone.
Standing/Sitting/Kneeling/Squatting are all OK. NO USE OF ANY SUPPORT! No non-body part under the elbows.

NO bags. NO sling. NO sticks. NO bipods. NO benches. NO supports of any kind.
UPDATE: If the range won't let you sit on the ground or stand, go ahead and shoot sitting in the chair, just no resting the rifle or your arms on anything except your own body.

3} Standard “ARFCOM” target should be used so we are all equals in that regard.
I know it sucks as a target, but the reason we all need to use it is that it will form a standardized target so all are handicapped by the same restrictions. Look at the one posted here. 6-inch diameter. They are easy to make or click below;

"Official Target":

https://app.box.com/s/sj3zq0s2qeviackhra8s

"Alternate Approved Target":

http://ar15hunter.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/AFRCOM-AR-NON-MOA-CHALLENGE-BULL-TARGET-1.pdf

Rule Modification: You should use the Arfcom Target but may use a more-or-less 6-inch round bull if you cannot get the Arfcom Target to print. For example, the SR-1 Target may be used. Use 8.5x11 sheet of paper and a clean backer for scoring. Note scoring rules.

Now...since some might throw shots off an 8.5x11 sheet, the 8.5x11 ARFCOM Target may be taped/stapled on top of a target backer. BUT the target backer MUST be clear of other shots {except the 15 fired for score}. Cardboard, construction paper, reversed tan-backed targets, white paper, etc may be used as target backers EXCEPT, again, the backer must be clean of all shots before shooting the 15 for score. TARGETS WILL BE DISQUALIFIED IF HOLES OTHER THAN THE FIFTEEN ARE VISIBLE. USE A CLEAN TARGET, ETC AS A BACKER.

4} 15-shot group score to be measured as follows:

Extreme spread to be calculated measuring outside edge of the farthest shots, outside edge of greasehole to outside edge of greasehole. Then subtract diameter of the bullet. Total in inches calculated. You may use a slide rule, ruler, dial caliper or…..yardstick or 20-foot tape measure capable of decimal or fractions to the 16th of an inch but DO NOT POST FRACTIONS!! Convert all ruler measurements to decimal or they will not be posted. Then convert to Minute-Of-Angle. MOA = {100 yard Group size divided by 1.047}.

5} PICTURES. You must post:

1 picture of the fired target uncluttered by anything else,

1 picture of the target with ruler, etc., measuring the extreme spread of the group itself,

1 picture of the rifle.

3 pictures in all MUST be posted.

You MAY also include a pic of the shooting position taken either while shooting or posed so we can see what position is being used. That would be helpful and guys will want to see this. Do it if you can. Video is cool, too.

6} Results must be entered in the following format for posting {so I can copy/paste}. If not in this format your results will not be posted.

USER NAME - Make, Model, Caliber - Barrel Length INCLUDING Muzzle Devices - Sights Make and Type - Notable Features and Mods - Ammunition {factory load/handloads} - Shooting Position Used - Group Size in Decimal Inches = (Group size divided by 1.047) MOA

7} Now, here are the Rifle Divisions;

BARREL LENGTHS INCLUDE BRAKES,SUPPRESSORS, FLASH HIDERS as they all add forward weight.

A} Iron-sighted Carbine Division {bbls under 18" INCLUDING BRAKES, SUPPRESSORS, FLASH HIDERS}
B} Iron-Sighted Rifle Division {bbls 18” and over}
C} Optical-Sighted Carbine Division {bbls under 18 inches}
D} Optical-Sighted Rifle Division {bbls 18 inches and over}

EDIT; BARREL LENGTH; MEASURE YOUR BARREL USING THE FOLLOWING METHOD; POST THAT WITH THE DATA ABOVE; Use the “BATFE Method”; Unload rifle, insert cleaning rod from muzzle to breech face, mark at the muzzle, w/draw and measure from end to mark. For our purposes, "Barrel Length" INCLUDES, REPEAT, INCLUDES MUZZLE DEVICES!

Remember, BARREL LENGTHS INCLUDE BRAKES,SUPPRESSORS, FLASH HIDERS as they all add forward weight.

GET OUT THERE AND HAVE SOME FUN AND SHOOT!!

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A} Iron-sighted Carbine Division {bbls under 18" INCLUDING BRAKES, SUPPRESSORS, FLASH HIDERS} AKA "Without Glass On It" Carbine Division

1] johnfz6 - Anderson frankengun 5.56 NATO - 16" - A2 iron - None - Ultramax 5.56 55gr FMJ - crossed leg sitting - 5.508 = 5.261 MOA
2] Muad-Colt M4A1 clone-14.5" Colt SOCOM bbl 5.56-Pinned Smith Vortex FH - Carry hdle rear-std FSB - Geissle SSA trigger-ZQI SS109/M855 5.56 62gr-crossed leg sitting-5.880=5.616 MOA
3] EVR – Smith & Wesson M&P15 5.56 – 17.5" - Carry handle Rear, Standard FSB - MAGPUL FCS – 55 gr Handload - Sitting – 5.901" = 5.636 MOA
4] EVR - PSA Mid Upper, PSA lower & parts-17.5" 1/8 twist Melonite bbl-PSA Carry Handle Sights-55 gr Hornady FMJ handload-Sitting, elbows on knees - 6.526" = 5.699 MOA
5] BillyDoubleU- DPMS M4 .223/5.56- 17.75" - Carry Handle - Wolf Polyformance 55gr FMJ - Crosslegged - 6" = 5.73MOA
6] pedorrero79 - Olympic Arms 5.56 NATO - 17.125" - Magpul Rear/Standard FSB - RRA trigger - Winchester White box 5.56 55gr FMJ - crossed leg sitting - 6.1" = 5.826 MOA
7] Weldingrod - RRA Mid Length A2 Carbine - Barrel 17 1/2" - Irons - Light weight profile barrel, CTR stockt- Federal XM193 - Sitting - 6.4375" = 6.149 MOA
8] Keeyote – M&P 15 5.56 Nato – 17.5"- Magpul BUIS, Standard FSB -Bone Stock – 69gr Nosler HPBT Match Handloads - Sitting – 6.78" = 6.47 MOA
9] JRoy - XM177e2 clone, 5.56. NDS A1 upper & lower-12.75" 1/9 barrel w fake moderator pinned/welded to 16 1/8" OA-55g handload-sitting, cross-legged resting on knees-7 5/8"=7.28 MOA.
10] JLS81-Norinco Mak90 7.62x39-16" bbl-Combloc Irons, Chicom mil-spec trigger-Red Army Standard 122 GR. Ammo - Sitting crossed leg - 8.1875"= 7.9375" MOA
11] jukeboxx13-BCM/DD ELW 16"-Magpul MBUS PRO BUIS-Geissele SSA-Siting-M193 55 FMJ-8.50"=7.94 MOA
12] L_JE - Spikes/Adco 9mm - 7.5" total bbl AR Pistol- Magpul BUPS - Winchester 115FMJ - sitting - 9.77" = 9.33 MOA
13] noraad - s&w m&p 15 5.56 - 17-5/16" barrel - iron sights from a m&p 15 .22 - wolf gold .223 - kneeling left elbow on left knee - im going to call this 10.5625" = 10.088
14] Comando293 - PSA mid-length 5.56 Nato - 17.75" barrel OAL - carry handle/A2 fsb - ALG AC trigger - 55gr. AE XM193- sitting - 12.46 inches = 11.90 MOA

B} Iron-Sighted Rifle Division {bbls 18” and over} AKA "Without Glass On It" Rifle Division

1] gunner76- PSA PA-15 CHF- 21 1/4" barrel- USGI sights-ADI .223 69gr SMK-sitting-3.401"=3.25 MOA.
2] gunner76- CMMG dedicated .22 upper/franken lower- .22lr- 22.5" barrel- USGI sights- .22lr CCI Mini Mags 36gr CPHP- sitting- 4.03"=3.849 MOA
3] gunner76- PSA PA-15 5.56mm- Barrel 21 1/4"- standard A2 front/carry handle rear- Factory loaded PMC X-Tac Match .223 77gr OTM- sitting- 4.0885"=3.905 MOA
4] 30Caliber - M1A Supermatch 308 - 25" - NM iron sights - Supermatch mods & rectangular aperture - 125grTNT handloads - Sitting - 4.422" = 4.223 MoA
5] Sirveaux - DPMS/J&T A2 Clone - 20" HB - A2 iron sights - 62 or 64 gr Speer or Federal loose ammo - Sitting - 4.8395" = 4.622 MOA
6] EVR-Jap Arisaka Type 38, 6.5x50 Jap cal, 31.5" bbl-Irons-140 gra Prvi SP Handload-Sitting-5.436" = 4.748 MOA {100 meters}
7] gunner76-Marlin 336CS- .30/30- 20 1/4" barrel- Williams fiber optic front/buckhorn rear- WWG Happy Trigger- Remington 150gr PSP- sitting-5.25"=5.02 MOA
8] EVR - Armalite AR10A4 7.62 NATO Caliber- 20" bbl - Irons {A2 Front installed by ADCO} - Speer 150 BTSP Handload - Sitting - 5.616" = 5.364 MOA
9] aswrg7-Retro M16A1 clone-5.56 mm-21.1875" bbl w/ flash hider-M16A1 sights-USGI upper, buttstock/pistol grip-Winchester 55gr ammo-cross-legged sitting - 5.398 MOA
10] EVR-Anderson Low/PSA Melonite A2 Up-Toolcraft BCG-20"-1/7"-LaRue MBT trigger, ArmaLite NM carry handle-55 gr handload {mixed cases}-Sitting {100 meters} -6.214" = 5.427 MOA
11] HighpowerRifleBrony - NM AR15A2, .223 Wylde - 21.5" - Bushmaster NM 0.5 MOA clicks - Removed charging handle latch - 50gr VMAX reduced load - Sitting - 5.84" = 5.58 MOA
12] MRW–Homebuilt AR 5.56–21.5" Bbl-Carry handle sights-M16A1 1:12 twist bbl w/ flat top upper–Hndld 55 gr FMJ ammo - Seated shooting position – 5.9" group = 5.635 MOA
13] Muad-Faxonbuild-18"FaxonGUNNER bbl 5.56-Smith Vortex FH-Carry hndle w/ NM rear, LMT frt post-Geissle Hi-speed DMR-ZQI M855 5.56 62gr-crossed leg sitting-6.036" ES = 5.765 MOA
14] BillyDoubleU- PSA A4 .223/5.56 - 21.25"- LMT Rear/Standard FSP - AE XM193 55gr FMJ - Crosslegged - 6.0625" = 5.79 MOA
15] GilenusX207 - BSA No4 Mk1 Enfield, .303 - 25.2" - Mk4 iron sights (200 yard ladder aperture) - No mods - Prvi Partisan 180gr SP - Sitting - 6.102" - 5.828 MOA
16] L_JE - Noveske/WOA 5.56 - 20.125" total bbl - Troy BUIS - RRA 2 stage trigger - Federal Bulk .223 55FMJ - sitting - 6.15" = 5.87 MOA
17] EVR–Ruger Mini-14 Series 184-18.5" bbl-Factory sights - Hornady 55 FMJ handload - Sitting, elbows on knees – 6.901" {100 meters} = 6.027 MOA
18] Weldingrod - RRA Standard A2 - Barrel 21 1/2" - Irons - Barrel turned down by Adco to split difference between A1 and Gov profile - Federal XM193 - Sitting - 6.5625" = 6.268 MOA
19] JRoy. Springfield Standard M1A, cal .308. 25" barrel over FS. Issue sights. 150g FMJ hand load. Sitting, resting on knees. 6.625" / 6.3 MOA
20] Jroy-Ruger Mini-14-19.5" bbl-Tech Sight rear, Choate front, fiberglass stock, glassbedded, trigger work, bayonet lug, flashhider, 55gr handload-sitting, elbows on knees-7" = 6.69MOA
21] 03RN - Springfield M1 - 24" - stock GI sights - Ported gas plug - Factory PPU M2 ball - Kneeling - 7" = 6.69MOA
22] dphill-hodgepodge A2- 20" Gov. profile barrel-standard A2 rear, standard FSB-Tula .223-kneeling-6.78 MOA
23] SouthernPhantom–Del-Ton A2/Anderson lower/Colt A1 furniture–20" 1:9 pencil bbl, A2 flash hdr 21.5"l–Del-Ton A2 carry hdle sts–Amer Eagle 55gr .223–sitting–8.5"=7.06 MOA {115 yds}
24] Diesel_Maximus_2992 – Frankin lower/stag 3ghl upper – 19inbarrel- magpul mbus pro flip irons– American eagle m193 - Sitting knees up, feet flat arms on knees – group:7.27= 6.95 MOA
25] L_JE - K31 7.5x55 - 25.75" total bbl - iron sights - factory trigger - GP11 surplus ammo - sitting - 7.32" = 6.99 MOA
26] 30Caliber - Winchester 1894 in 38-55 - 26" - Lyman #1 tang sight - no mods - 255gr cast handloads - Kneeling - 7.295" - 7.16 MoA
27] HighpowerRifleBrony – M1903, .30-06 – 23.88" – As-Issued – 110gr Hornady SP/13gr Red Dot – Sitting – 7.69" = 7.34 MOA
28] EVR–Mosin-Nagant 1931 - 7.62x54R- 28.6" bbl- Iron Sights - Barrel recrowned, Finn M39 trigger added, stock cut down-123 gr Handload - Sitting, elbows on knees – 7.69" = 7.344 MOA
29] Troll_Toes, U.S. carbine .30 CAL M1 , 18" , Peep Sights, handloads, Kneeling, 7.75" = 7.402 MOA
30] DnTrdNMe-Springfield M1-24"-GI sights-HXP '74 M2 ball-sitting cross legged-8.08"=7.72 MOA
31] EVR–Mosin-Nagant 1934 - 7.62x54R- 28.75" bbl- Iron Sights - Factory issue - PPU 150 gr SPBT - Sitting, elbows on knees – 8.5" = 7.8 MOA
32] aswrg7–Rock-Ola M1 Carbine, .30 Carbine – 18" barrel - USGI adjustable sights -CMP issued, with later issue sights, safety, bayo lug – USGI ball amoo - cross-legged sitting – 7.824 MOA
33] JLS81 - Del-ton AR15 A3 20 inch Rifle - A2 FSB Irons, Detachable rear sight, mil-spec trigger - Freedom 5.56 55 GR. - Sitting crossed leg - 8.52"= 8.14 MOA
34] minion42 - Springfield Armory M1 Garand .30-06 (Aug 1942) - 24” - stock sights - n/a - PPU 150gr 30-06 “Garand” - kneeling - 8.567” = 8.18 MOA
35] SteelonSteel -Century British L1A1-7.62 NATO, 20.5” clean crown barrel. Issue irons, surplus FN 7.62mm ball, sitting, 9-0.308= 8.692” = 8.30 MOA
36] EVR-Russian SKS 20"-Winchester 123 Handload-Sitting, elbows on knees-9.815 {100 meters} = 8.572 MOA
37] dphill-1950 Tula SKS- 20" barrel-Tech rear sight, standard front-Ramline stock-Norinco china sports 7.62x39-kneeling-8.74 MOA
38] JRoy-DSA/IMBEL FAL 7.62x51-22.25 bbl w/ combo device-modified rear aperture, issue front sites-150g ball equivalent hand load-Sitting cross legged resting on knees-9.75"/ 9.31 MOA.
39] HighpowerRifleBrony-NM AR15A2-.223 Wylde-21.5"-Bushmaster rear/RRA front sights-RRA freefloat tube, LaRue MBT with heavy spring-50gr VMAX hdld-Offhand-9.817" = 9.38 MOA
40] gunner76-Winchester 94-.30-30-20" barrel- stock iron sights-Remington 150gr PSP- sitting-10.88"=10.4 MOA
41] dphill - Frankingun 5.56 - 20" Government Profile Miculek brake - LMT rear sight/Standard FSB- American Eagle 5.56 62gr. FMJ - sitting - 10.75" = 10.26 MOA
42] Emegbers - K31 - 7.5x55 GP11 - 25.67" bbl - Iron Sights - Sitting, elbows on knees - 12.024" center to center - 11.484 MOA
43] Troll_toes-Smith Corona 1903A3 30-06, Barrel 24.0, Standard peep Sights, Handloads 150 gr M2 Ball, kneeling , 12.500 MOA 11.938
44] gunner76-Remington 870 12ga-20" Remington rifled barrel- stock sights-Win Super X 3" 1oz BRI sabots-sitting- 12.652=11.99 MOA
45] JLS81 - M1 Garand Rifle - Irons and mil-spec trigger - F.N. 30-06 150 GR FMJ. - Sitting - 13.53 12.92 MOA
46] Walkinginadangerzone– Larue Stealth 5.56 – 18.25 - Larue branded Troy folding sights -stock stealth upper – 55 gr FMJ - sitting – 15.1875 = 14.2917

C} Optical-Sighted Carbine Division {bbls under 18 inches} AKA "With Glass On It" Carbine Division

1] gunner76-AR-15 build-5.56-17.5" Faxon 1/8 GUNNER bbl-Weaver 1-4x24 set @ 4x-ALG QMS trigger-ADI .223 69gr SMK-sit, elbows on knees- 2.902"=2.77 MOA.
2] gunner76- Aero/Spikes build-5.56-17.5" Spikes 1/7 CL barrel-Trijicon MRO-USGI trigger-ADI .223 69gr SMK-sitting while resting elbows on knees-2.96"=2.83 MOA.
3] EVR – S&W M&P15 – 17 1/2" - Burris 3-9 Fullfield - Magpul FCS – PMC 55 FMJ - Sitting, elbows on knees – 3.2135" = 3.069 MOA
4] EVR–S&W M&P15–17 1/2"-Vortex Sparc AR-Magpul FCS, K2 grip, LaRue MBT trigger–Hornady 55 handload-Sitting, elbows on knees–3.839" {100 meters} = 3.353 MOA
5] EVR–Ruger M77MKII 6.5x55-17"-Burris 3-9-trigger polished, epoxy bedded, different stock, etc-Hornady 100 gr handload-Sitting, elbows on knees–4.11" {100 meters} = 3.590 MOA
6] EVR-PSA Blem lower/pencil bbl 1/7 twist upper-16.5" bbl-Burris 1.75/5x scope-No Mods-55 gr Hornady SP handload-Sitting, elbows on knees - 3.901"-3.726 MOA
7] johnfz6 -Stag/YHM/DPMS frankengun 5.56-16" bbl-BSA 4-16x40 Contender scope-Spike's Tactical Battle Trigger-handload w/ Hornady 55gr FMJBT-crossed leg sitting- 4.012" = 3.832MOA
8] johnfz6 - LRB/JSE Surp. 5.56 - 17.75" - Vortex Strikefire red dot - no mods - handload w/55 gr Hornady FMJBT - crossed leg sitting - 4.169 = 3.982 MOA
9] War_Face-Scar 16s 5.56x45mm, 17.8" Barrel 1/7 twist - Trijicon TA33 3x Acog - Geissele Super Scar trigger - ADI 69gr SMK - Sitting with rifle braced against knee - 4.3125"= 4.12 MOA
10] GilenusX207 - BCM Kino - 14.75" - Aimpoint T-1 4MOA - Geissele SSA-E, SilencerCo ASR muzzle brake - 52gr SMK/25.2gr TAC/WSR - Sitting - 4.319" = 4.125 MOA
11] JRoy, New Frontier Armory, 5.56, 17.25 FN CHF midlength barrel, Leupold VX2 1-4x scope, ALG FF rail, ALG trigger, 55g ball equiv handload, Sitting, 4.5" = 4.29 MOA.
12] ArisakaArmalite–ArmaLiteSPR MOD 1/M15 5.56–17.75" bbl- Nikko-Sterling 3-10 scope -No Mods–PMC 55 gr FMJBT-Sitting, elbows on knees–4.87" - .224 = 4.646 = 4.44 MOA
13] Weldingrod - RRA 556 carbine - Barrel 17 1/2" - Aimpoint T1 - Light weight profile barrel, Magpul handguards and CTR stock - Federal XM193 - Sitting - 4.8125" = 4.596 MOA
14] Topper1 - 16" RRA - 1/9 barrel 17.5 oal - 4X ACOG ZQI - 62 gr 5.56 - Cross legged seated - 5.22" outside to outside - 4.775 moa
15] baranski - Rock River Elite LAR15 -5.56 - 16" hvy bbl 1/9twist - RRA 2-stage trigger - UTG 3-9 scope set at 9x - Aguila 5.56 62 grain - sitting on floor legs crossed - 5.019" = 4.79 MOA.
16] EVR- Ruger AR556- 17 1/2 "- Aimpoint Pro - Hornady 55 handload - Sitting, elbows on knees – 5.526" {100 meters} = 4.826 MOA
17] BillyDoubleU - Spike ML .223/5.56 - 17.75" - Troy BUIS - Spike's NIB BCG/FCG - Wolf Polyformance 55gr FMJ - Crosslegged - 5.25" = 5.014 MOA
18] Smallwoods–Misc AR-15-Lothar Walther 17.13in - Leupold VX-3 1.75-6 - Geisselle DMR trigger - Fiocchi 223 55gn FMJBT - seated, elbows in front of knees – 5.4 Inches = 5.2 MOA
19] krichbaum - frankengun 5.56 - 17.5" - Aimpoint Micro 4moa dot - mods n/a - handload 55 gr Hornady FMJBT - crossed leg sitting - 5.476" = 5.230 MOA
20] fury413rb - DTI ECHO 316 5.56 1/9-16 - Nikon M223 1-4x, Troy Alpha FF rail, CMMG 2 stage trigger - PPU 69gr match - sitting w/ elbows on knees - 6" - 5.516 MOA
21] Rksonex- Frankengun 5.56 mm NATO- 16.1" BBL - Aimpoint M2- Tula 55gr .223- Standing Isosceles- 6" = 5.73 MOA
22] BillyDoubleU - Spike's ML .223/5.56 - 17.75" - Aimpoint M3 - Spike's NIB BCG/FCG - AE XM 193 55gr FMJ - Crosslegged - 6.0625" = 5.79 MOA
23] HighpowerRifleBrony–M4gery, 5.56–17.3"-Optical, Ultradot 30 - Core15 1:7 M4 profile barrel, UTG Pro freefloat quad rail, DPMS NM trigger – 77gr handload - Sitting – 6.94" = 6.63 MOA
24] JLS81 - Del-ton DTI-16 Carbine Rifle - Primary Arms ACSS 1-6 5.45X39, mil-spec trigger - Federal 5.56 55 GR. - Kneeling - 7.00" = 6.81 MOA
25] gunner76- Ruger 10/22 .22lr- 16.5" barrel-Simmons Pro Hunter scope @ 6x-Tactical Solutions barrel-Federal red box bulk 36gr copper plated HP- sitting- 7.402=7.07MOA
26] dphill - Frankingun 5.56 - 16" Light weight barrel Kaw Valley Liner compensator - Vortex Spitfire 1x - American Eagle 5.56 62gr FMJ - sitting - 7.5" = 7.16 MOA
27] secretwheelman - M4A1 Block II clone - BCM SOCOM 14.5" w/ SF3P: 16.7" - TA01NSN acog - no mods - Factory XM193 - Kneeling - 7.652" = 7.308 MOA
28] 8minion42-BCM upper/lower 5.56 M4-5.56-16.2”-Aimpoint PRO-Geissele SSA trigger, Spikes T2 buffer system-Lake City/Federal 5.56 62gr “green tip”-kneeling-7.9635” = 7.61 MOA
29] jself24 - Delton Mid Length 5.56 - 17.25" Barrel - EoTech (no magnifier) - RRA 2stage Trigger - 55gr Hornady FMJBT Handload - Sitting - 8.40" = 8.02 MOA
30] HighpowerRifleBrony-M4gery, 5.56- 7.3"-Ultradot 30, MBUS rear-Core15 1:7 M4 profile barrel, UTG Pro freefloat quad rail, DPMS NM trigger-50gr handload-Offhand-9.40" = 8.98 MOA
31] aswrg7-M4gery, 5.56-17.5" bbl,-PrimaryArms non-mag red dot-Del-ton upper, AIM BCG, CMMG lower, Magpul furn, RRA 2-stage trigger-Wolf 55 gr-cross legged sitting-11.845 MOA
32] jukeboxx13-BCM/DD ELW 16"-Aimpoint T1/Eotech G33-Geissele SSA-Siting-M193 55 FMJ-12.50"=11.94 MOA
33] jself24 - Alexander Arms .50 Beowulf- 17.875" Barrel - Vortex SPARC with 2x Magnifier - RRA 2stage Trigger - 335gr Rainer FP Handload - Sitting - 12.62" = 12.05 MOA

D} Optical-Sighted Rifle Division {bbls 18 inches and over} AKA "With Glass On It" Rifle Division

1] gunner76-mix/match AR15-.223-21.5" Faxon Gunner barrel- Bushnell AR Optics/.223 4.5-14x @ 14x - ALG QMS trigger - sitting- factory PMC X-Tac Match 77gr OTM- 2.276"=2.17 MOA.
2] EVR – ArmaLite M15NM 5.56 NATO - 21 1/8" BBL - Leupold 4.5-14 - LaRue MBT trigger - 69 gr sierra BTHP Handload – Sitting – 3.0535" = 2.916 MOA
3] EVR – SAKO Finnbear 6.5x55-23" bbl- Leupold 4.5-14 - Freefloated bbl - Prvi Partizan 139 SP – Sitting – 3.1685" = 3.026 MOA
4] EVR – Ruger M77 Tang Safety - 7x57 - 22" bbl - Nikon 3-9 - 150 gr handload - Sitting (100 meters) - 3.529" = 3.082 MOA
5] EVR–Ruger M77MKII Early Model Pushfeed .270 Win 22" bbl-Leupold 309 Vari-X II trigger honed for crisp letoff– 100 grain Handload-Sitting {100 meters} –3.598 = 3.142 MOA
6] EVR–Romanian M69 .22LR-23"bbl-Leupold 2-7-sporterized-Remington Yellow Jacket HP-Sitting, elbows on knees–3.900" {100 meters} = 3.406 MOA
7] L_JE - S&W M&P-15 - 18.125" total bbl - PA MD RDS - G SSA-E trigger - GFL .223 - Sitting - 3.59" = 3.43 MOA
8] john_the_plinker-Ruger American .22 WMR, 22" bbl, Leupold VX2 3-9x40 @ 9x, Hornady 30 gr. Vmax ammo, sitting cross-legged with elbows on knees, 3.714"=3.547 moa
9] L_JE - Noveske/WOA 5.56 - 27.75" total bbl (incl. YHM suppressor) - Vortex PST 2.5-10x - RRA 2 stage trigger - Fiocchi 77SMK - sitting - 3.78" = 3.61 MOA
10] EVR–ArmaLite AR10A4B 7.62 NATO–20"-Burris Fullfield 1.75-5 Plex-Barrel lightened, Larue MBT trigger-150 grn FMJ Handload-Sitting Elbows on Knees {100m} –4.255"=3.716 MOA
11] GilenusX207 – BCM Kino (5.56) – 18.5" - Aimpoint T-1 4MOA - SilencerCo Specwar 556K, Geissele SSA-E – 52gr SMK handload - Sitting – 4.385" = 4.188 MOA
12] EVR–Winchester Pre-64 M70 30'06-24" bbl-Leupold 3-9 - Assorted 180 factory ammo - Sitting (100 meters) - 4.942" = 4.316 MOA
13] L_JE - Ruger 10/22 .22LR - 21.5" total bbl (incl. Osprey Sparrow) - Bushnell TRS-25 RDS - stock trigger, Hogue stock - Win SuperX - sitting - 4.526" = 4.32 MOA
14] krichbaum - frankengun 5.45x39 - 18" - Aimpoint Micro 4moa dot - mods n/a - Surplus 7n6 - crossed leg sitting - 4.496" = 4.294 MOA
15] Weldingrod - BCM A4 556 upper and RRA lower - Barrel 21 1/2" - Aimpoint M4S - Government profile barrel, RRA 2 stage trigger - Federal XM193 - Sitting - 4.625" = 4.417 MOA
16] Diesel_Maximus_2992 – marlin 795 – Barrel Length 16in- Winchester 4x32 from academy – CCI minimag - Sitting, knees up arms on knees – Group size:4.71 = MOA 4.498
17] L_JE - Noveske/WOA 5.56 - 20.125" total bbl - Vortex PST 2.5-10x - RRA 2 stage trigger - Federal Bulk .223 55FMJ - sitting - 4.78" = 4.57 MOA
18] DnTrdNMe-5.56 frankenbuild with Spikes lower and DPMS MK12 barrel-19.25"-Bushnell Trophy in Armalite mount-Ultramax 68 gr hp-sitting, cross legged-5.06"=4.83moa
19] Topper1 20" FN barrel 21.5 oal 4X ACOG ZQI 62 gr 5.56 Cross legged seated 5.625" 5.372 moa
20] Weldingrod - RRA Standard A4 223 Wylde - Barrel 21 1/2" - Leupold Mk 4 4.5-14 - Free float tube, SS HBAR - Federal XM193 - Sitting - 6.437" = 6.148 MOA
21] JRoy- Ruger #3 cal.223, 22" barrel, Weaver steel tube 4X scope, 55g handload, sitting resting on knees. 6.5" = 6.20 MOA.
22] MonkeyFist - DPDPMS - LR-308 24 inch barrel - Leupold VX-3 6.5-20x50mm - handload 168gr Sierra Matchking Hornady Match Brass - sitting - 6.692=6.391MOA
23] Grendelsbane- Palmetto M4 upper 5.56/ Eagle Arms lower- 21.8" BBL - Leupold 1.75-6 -Griffin Spartan 3- Dogtown 55gr HP hand load -Sitting- 7"=6.472 MOA
24] Weldingrod - Smith & Wesson M&P 10 - Barrel 20 - Aimpoint M4S - Wison TTU 2-stage - Black Hills Match - Sitting - 7.28125" = 6.954 MOA
25] JRoy- 5.56, 21.8" Colt 1/7 bbl Stag lower, DPMS slick upper, , Armalite two-stage trigger. Sierra 60G Varminter Hndld-Leupold 3-9x Rifleman-Sitting, resting on knees. 8.0" 7.44 MOA.
26] L_JE - Noveske/WOA 5.56 - 20.125" total bbl - Vortex PST 2.5-10x - RRA 2 stage trigger - M193 - Inverted Backwards Kneeling Position - 14.25" = 13.4 MOA
Link Posted: 1/2/2017 10:17:16 PM EST
Oh hey, i made a crappy printer ink friendly target i need to post. Never did get back out to the range to do a proper shoot, and i sold the ak i did it with last year.
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Originally Posted By xviperx420:
Oh hey, i made a crappy printer ink friendly target i need to post. Never did get back out to the range to do a proper shoot, and i sold the ak i did it with last year.
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No problem.

Just shoot what you have.

Doesn't have to be an AK.

The Challenge is open to all rifles.
Link Posted: 1/2/2017 10:58:13 PM EST
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I'm curious; Is this a Tag because you intended to shoot, or just a Tag to follow?
Link Posted: 1/3/2017 12:16:52 AM EST
Not many people would be proud of a dead-last ranking in a category, but I have to say that my #15 ranking in Division D is one of my prouder shooting accomplishments.

I'll see if I can get some of my students in on this.
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Originally Posted By L_JE:
Not many people would be proud of a dead-last ranking in a category, but I have to say that my #15 ranking in Division D is one of my prouder shooting accomplishments.

I'll see if I can get some of my students in on this.
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Every time I think of making the attempt myself, I calculate the deductible on my chiropractic coverage and decide against it...
Link Posted: 1/3/2017 6:20:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/3/2017 6:48:58 PM EST by gunner76]
Here's my submission, hopefully I did everything right so I don't get into trouble.
Rifle is a PSA Premium 20" with stock irons and PSA LPK.
Sling mounts are in the photos but I did not have the sling on the rifle.
Ammo is PMC X-Tac Match 77gr OTM
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Here is the shooting position used. I had no one with me when I shot so I had my wife take the picture when she got home from work.
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4 5/16" edge to edge= 4.3125-.224= 4.0885/1.047=3.905MOA. Shot the group in 1.149 minutes.

ETA. gunner76- PSA PA-15 5.56mm- Barrel 21 1/4"- standard A2 front/carry handle rear- Factory loaded PMC X-Tac Match .223 77gr OTM- sitting- 4.0885"=3.905 MOA.
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Originally Posted By gunner76:
Here's my submission, hopefully I did everything right so I don't get into trouble.
Rifle is a PSA Premium 20" with stock irons and PSA LPK.
Sling mounts are in the photos but I did not have the sling on the rifle.
Ammo is PMC X-Tac Match 77gr OTM
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/199700/IMG-1135-119176.JPG
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Here is the shooting position used. I had no one with me when I shot so I had my wife take the picture when she got home from work.
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4 5/16" edge to edge= 4.3125-.224= 4.0885/1.047=3.905MOA. Shot the group in 1.149 minutes.
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Thanks for posting!!

Good shooting!

Post it up according to the rules so I can copy/paste and I'll get you on the board.

Here's the format:

USER NAME – Make Model Caliber Rifle – Barrel Length INCLUDING Muzzle Devices - Sights Make and Type -List of Important Mods – Ammunition {factory load/handloads} - Shooting Position Used – Group Size Decimal Inches = MOA {100 yard Group size divided by 1.047}
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entry edited with proper format.
Link Posted: 1/3/2017 7:03:35 PM EST
Awesome!

Got you on the board.

That is some GREAT shooting, too. Even with irons, that group would put you at #5 in the OPTICAL sighted rifle division. Great job!
Link Posted: 1/3/2017 7:16:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By EVR:
Awesome!

Got you on the board.

That is some GREAT shooting, too. Even with irons, that group would put you at #5 in the OPTICAL sighted rifle division. Great job!
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Thanks. It was the first group I shot after getting the rifle sighted in with the new ammo. I shot another group with some ADI but it was slightly larger than the one I submitted. I tried to shoot another group at the end of the day after I was "warmed" up, but as usual my groups start to open up after I've shot for awhile.
Link Posted: 1/3/2017 7:22:25 PM EST
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Thanks. It was the first group I shot after getting the rifle sighted in with the new ammo. I shot another group with some ADI but it was slightly larger than the one I submitted. I tried to shoot another group at the end of the day after I was "warmed" up, but as usual my groups start to open up after I've shot for awhile.
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That is common with me as well. Fatigue, whatever, creeps in at the end of the day.

If you've got any other rifles, boltguns, anything, post 'em up!
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Originally Posted By EVR:


That is common with me as well. Fatigue, whatever, creeps in at the end of the day.

If you've got any other rifles, boltguns, anything, post 'em up!
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I got plenty of other rifles to try. Just need to get a nice day on the weekend when I don't have anything else to do. I thought about trying one with my Marlin 336 but I don't think I could reload it fast enough to stay under the 2min limit.
Link Posted: 1/3/2017 7:32:04 PM EST
TLDR
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Originally Posted By gunner76:


I got plenty of other rifles to try. Just need to get a nice day on the weekend when I don't have anything else to do. I thought about trying one with my Marlin 336 but I don't think I could reload it fast enough to stay under the 2min limit.
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Oh, yeah you could!!! I did it with a couple Mosin Nagants and those things are a pain. You'd have time.

Give it a whirl. If you reshoot it and do better, I'll post the best group. I need to kick that scoped AR10 group of mine off the list and bump it up, myself!

The whole affair is designed to be fun and get folks shooting. In fact, I've gotten plenty of feedback that many find it a lot harder than they think! But it is sure interesting to see what rifles are getting top billing. A <MOA "Laser" doesn't necessarily translate into a good 15-shot group from a field position. But most shooters here are stuck to the bench I think. In fact, some shoot at ranges where they aren't even allowed to shoot sway from a bench, so the Fudds and farmboys among us seem to do very well indeed.
Link Posted: 1/3/2017 7:48:44 PM EST
No 100yd range for me right now...
Link Posted: 1/3/2017 8:05:02 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/3/2017 8:13:11 PM EST
I've still got an unused target from last time floating around the back seat of my car.

Might try to break into the top 5 on Sunday if the weather holds up.
Link Posted: 1/3/2017 8:15:20 PM EST
I'll see if I can do this tonight. I have a 100 yard indoor range near me, hopefully it isn't too packed.
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Tag
Link Posted: 1/4/2017 2:58:31 PM EST
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That target feels familiar.

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Yup.

Standard Issue Arfcom.

Link Posted: 1/6/2017 7:00:36 PM EST
Weekend bump to remind the Taggers.
Link Posted: 1/6/2017 7:04:19 PM EST
Can we shoot a half size target at 50yds?
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Can we shoot a half size target at 50yds?
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Good question but no. Nothing shorter than 100 yds. We hashed it out a while back on the first go-round and made that a rule. Gotta be 100. That sucks if you are stuck with a 50 yd range. Sorry about that.
Link Posted: 1/6/2017 7:33:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By EVR:


Oh, yeah you could!!! I did it with a couple Mosin Nagants and those things are a pain. You'd have time.

Give it a whirl. If you reshoot it and do better, I'll post the best group. I need to kick that scoped AR10 group of mine off the list and bump it up, myself!

The whole affair is designed to be fun and get folks shooting. In fact, I've gotten plenty of feedback that many find it a lot harder than they think! But it is sure interesting to see what rifles are getting top billing. A <MOA "Laser" doesn't necessarily translate into a good 15-shot group from a field position. But most shooters here are stuck to the bench I think. In fact, some shoot at ranges where they aren't even allowed to shoot sway from a bench, so the Fudds and farmboys among us seem to do very well indeed.
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What's the reason for excluding certain field positions (such as prone) or field aids (such as a shooting sling)? I can't remember if you gave your rationale for that last time or not. I've used both while afield.
Link Posted: 1/6/2017 7:40:51 PM EST
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What's the reason for excluding certain field positions (such as prone) or field aids (such as a shooting sling)? I can't remember if you gave your rationale for that last time or not. I've used both while afield.
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The whole thing is designed to eliminate any skills normally associated with specific shooting disciplines and also eliminate anything that provides solid support of the rifle, just to make it a bit "harder". Kind of "just pick up the rifle and start shooting". The rationale has worked, too, in that if you look at the shooting positions, they vary and it has been neat watching how different shooters prefer to shoot when given the options excluding prone. Prone specifically was eliminated as I didn't want to make it a "Prone Cahllenge" which I figured it would be if prone was allowed. Now a prone challenge would be a neat challenge in its own right, but this isn't it.
Link Posted: 1/6/2017 7:42:20 PM EST
What kind of glass?

Because I can't fucking see.
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What kind of glass?

Because I can't fucking see.
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Can you see well enough to find the roster of shooters in the OP?

{Sorry, had to say that... Couldn't resist }

Check them out tho. You can use optical sights or irons. Each has a separate division. Carbine optical and iron, rifle optical and iron.
Link Posted: 1/6/2017 8:47:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By bigstick61:


What's the reason for excluding certain field positions (such as prone) or field aids (such as a shooting sling)? I can't remember if you gave your rationale for that last time or not. I've used both while afield.
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There is one sort-of-prone position that has been cleared for this event.

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Originally Posted By L_JE:

There is one sort-of-prone position that has been cleared for this event.

http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z362/0471861731/2016/20160131%20NonMOA/IBKP2C_zps5awxdeif.gif
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That's not going to happen anytime soon.
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Originally Posted By L_JE:

There is one sort-of-prone position that has been cleared for this event.

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Really, that's what you chose to put in your photobucket and share?


Link Posted: 1/6/2017 9:43:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By L_JE:

There is one sort-of-prone position that has been cleared for this event.

http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z362/0471861731/2016/20160131%20NonMOA/IBKP2C_zps5awxdeif.gif
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Shucks, forgot that one!!!

Yes, this is the only pseudo-prone position allowed. We covered it in detail before approval was issued!
Link Posted: 1/7/2017 10:23:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By XJ:
Really, that's what you chose to put in your photobucket and share?


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You're just upset because I didn't show off more midriff.
Link Posted: 1/7/2017 12:35:13 PM EST
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Couple of questions.

Edit - Is there an appropriate subject thread that allows subscriptions you could post this in? Without that it's harder to find and follow.

Is a shooting jacket ok?
Glove?

Mostly asking for a friend who likely could hold 2" sitting if they are allowed, maybe even if they aren't.

I might have trouble holding the 6" circle, but I'm going to try.
Link Posted: 1/7/2017 12:45:38 PM EST
Tag
I need to do this
Link Posted: 1/7/2017 1:44:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ricomnc:
Couple of questions.

Edit - Is there an appropriate subject thread that allows subscriptions you could post this in? Without that it's harder to find and follow.

Is a shooting jacket ok?
Glove?

Mostly asking for a friend who likely could hold 2" sitting if they are allowed, maybe even if they aren't.

I might have trouble holding the 6" circle, but I'm going to try.
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The rules don't say anything about not being able to use a jacket or gloves.

there should be a subscribe button next to the post reply button. But I'm not sure if non team members have this feature.
Link Posted: 1/7/2017 6:57:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ricomnc:
Couple of questions.

Edit - Is there an appropriate subject thread that allows subscriptions you could post this in? Without that it's harder to find and follow.

Is a shooting jacket ok?
Glove?

Mostly asking for a friend who likely could hold 2" sitting if they are allowed, maybe even if they aren't.

I might have trouble holding the 6" circle, but I'm going to try.
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gunner gave you the key to subscriptions. Pay up!!

As for shooting gloves...

Mmmmm.....

Lemme think about it...

Damn props. Crutches. That is exactly what we are trying to get away from here.

I've already allowed shooting jackets as a concession mostly because there are some tubby guys that when they jam themselves into a Carhart chore coat might as well be strapped into a Camp Perry Straightjacket.

So.....

Ya'know what.

What the heck, I'll allow it.

Shooting jackets = OK.

Shooting gloves = OK.

The latter only because I want to get guys shooting this thing.

Just note them in the scoring data after the shooting position. No need to cite "Glove", just put "Sissy Mitt". That'll do.

But all the other rules apply!

And seriously guys, just shoot the thing. So what if you don't do as well as you want to. Use it as a benchmark to improve upon! Just shoot it and post your results. Just observe all the rules and then have some fun!

Link Posted: 1/7/2017 7:07:39 PM EST
A pistol version in the works?
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A pistol version in the works?
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I was thinking of using my 4" GP100 and just entering it in the iron sighted carbine category, but I'm a glutton for punishment.
Link Posted: 1/7/2017 8:26:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:
Well if you're allowing shooting jackets, you might as well allow benches.

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You know the drill. Gotta draw the line somewhere.

But as for "Coats = Benches", well...no, they do not, feel free to don one and bump the top shooters out!
Link Posted: 1/7/2017 8:27:21 PM EST
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I was thinking of using my 4" GP100 and just entering it in the iron sighted carbine category, but I'm a glutton for punishment.
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I wanted to use my Scorpion Evo at 100 with a red dot
Link Posted: 1/7/2017 8:30:16 PM EST
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"On Second Thought"?

Huh?
Link Posted: 1/7/2017 9:13:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:
Well if you're allowing shooting jackets, you might as well allow benches.

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Have to agree. If a field sling isn't allowed then no pansy clothing accessories either!!!

I like the concept of no time to sling up or anything else. Just get sights on target and send it! (And I'm an Appleseed instructor and all about using a sling)

Maybe you have to stand or maybe there's time to drop to kneeling or seated behind cover and send some hate downrange!!!

ETA- Not dissing the OP too much just having fun as a purist.
Link Posted: 1/7/2017 9:23:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Lomshek:

Have to agree. If a field sling isn't allowed then no pansy clothing accessories either!!!

I like the concept of no time to sling up or anything else. Just get sights on target and send it! (And I'm an Appleseed instructor and all about using a sling)

Maybe you have to stand or maybe there's time to drop to kneeling or seated behind cover and send some hate downrange!!!
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As I said, it is what it is.

No Sling.
Jackets OK.
Sissy Mitts OK.

Tho I personally am repulsed by all the crutches.

The original idea for this thing actually came to me during my workout hikes, snare checking and ski trekking in the mountains on and around my ranch. I carry and use a rifle and/or pistol all year, good weather and bad, killing whatever game or varmints are in season. I do use a sling from time to time but depending on rifle may not even have one on the gun as I generally do not like them. Sometimes, in winter, my rifles are set up in "biathlon" rigs I make. But I wanted a standardized setup, so banned the sling, and as said, it helps avoid the advantage a High Power shooter might have.

Maybe allowing jackets and gloves is a mistake, but I get exhausted dealing with gamers trying to game the system, so I caved.
Link Posted: 1/7/2017 9:53:32 PM EST
Ill give this a shot sometime in the next couple weeks.
Can I use a scoped upper and open sight upper on the same lower?
Link Posted: 1/7/2017 10:12:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DmacRTCo:
Ill give this a shot sometime in the next couple weeks.
Can I use a scoped upper and open sight upper on the same lower?
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Good question.

Yes.

You can enter 2 Divisions that way. The Optical and the Iron sight.

Actually, the same upper can be used for both as well by merely changing the sighting equipment. You can shoot the Challenge with irons and the then add a scope and get a score up on both Divisions. I did myself and I think others might have also.
Link Posted: 1/7/2017 10:28:40 PM EST
Damn, I did horrible.

Walkinginadangerzone– Larue Stealth 556 – 18.25 - Larue branded Troy folding sights -stock stealth upper – 55 gr FMJ - sitting – 15.1875 = 14.2917

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