Posted: 5/7/2009 4:33:29 PM EDT
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Did anyone else see Shep Smith on Fox. He said the White House has a short list for SCOTUS picks and one of them
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| I personally don't care if the person picked is openly gay, is still in the closet, is deeply religious, or an atheist, or of any particular race, gender, or culture. My only concern is whether or not the individual selected will honor the Constitution and render decisions based on the law, or will that individual work to "fix" society from the bench. That's the question that needs to be discussed. All of the other things are just red herrings and misdirection. |
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Shep is gay, of course he is going to make a big thing out of another gay person potentially getting on the Supreme Court. Reality is nothing will change, someone who usually votes on the left wing of the court (Souter) will be replaced with another of similar views. |
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Gay appointee means guaranteed far left, progressive loon  dead on. Gay doesn't necessarily mean far left, progressive. There are gays who would fervently embrace conservatism (small, unobtrusive government, low taxes) and not vote Democrat if Republicans would just stop treating them like crap and making them scapegoats for many of societies ills ("Oh no, if gay marriage is allowed, society as we know it will break down!!") While there are some who parade, protest, etc., there are many others who are just like some straights (myself and many others at Arfcom) - they would just like to be left alone. ETA: My favorite aunt, who passed away a couple of years ago, was gay. She and her "roommate" were together significantly longer than many marriages (almost 50 years). Her "roommate" taught me to shoot when I was 6. |
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Gay appointee means guaranteed far left, progressive loon dead on. Gay doesn't necessarily mean far left, progressive. There are gays who would fervently embrace conservatism (small, unobtrusive government, low taxes) and not vote Democrat if Republicans would just stop treating them like crap and making them scapegoats for many of societies ills ("Oh no, if gay marriage is allowed, society as we know it will break down!!") While there are some who parade, protest, etc., there are many others who are just like some straights (myself and many others at Arfcom) - they would just like to be left alone. Not at this level. Of course it does not matter who the Halfrican chooses but when given an inch, a mile will be taken. Hogwash to the "whatever 2 consenting adults do" bullshit. Go live in San Fran for a year and get back to me. |
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I personally don't care if the person picked is openly gay, is still in the closet, is deeply religious, or an atheist, or of any particular race, gender, or culture. My only concern is whether or not the individual selected will honor the Constitution and render decisions based on the law, or will that individual work to "fix" society from the bench. That's the question that needs to be discussed. All of the other things are just red herrings and misdirection. Bingo. She can hump dead sheep in her bedroom for all I care...just as long as she actually does what she's supposed to do on the bench. The difficulty is that those of shall we say "alternative lifestyles" are generally not inclined to be the kind of judges we look for philosophically. |
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Shep is gay, of course he is going to make a big thing out of another gay person potentially getting on the Supreme Court. Reality is nothing will change, someone who usually votes on the left wing of the court (Souter) will be replaced with another of similar views. Appointing a (relatively) young liberal would indeed have a big impact on the court. Scalia and Thomas aren't immortal....although I wish like hell that they were. |
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There are gays who would fervently embrace conservatism (small, unobtrusive government, low taxes) and not vote Democrat ..and yet that doesn't seem to be represented by the majority of gay activist groups. That would be what I would refer to as a "clue". |
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Quoted: I personally don't care if the person picked is openly gay, is still in the closet, is deeply religious, or an atheist, or of any particular race, gender, or culture. My only concern is whether or not the individual selected will honor the Constitution ..... This. 5sub |
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Quoted: Quoted: There are gays who would fervently embrace conservatism (small, unobtrusive government, low taxes) and not vote Democrat ..and yet that doesn't seem to be represented by the majority of gay activist groups. That would be what I would refer to as a "clue". But to automatically exclude all gays from being good judges is just plain wrong. My GUESS is that president rahm emanuel will choose an Hispanic female. 5sub |
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There are gays who would fervently embrace conservatism (small, unobtrusive government, low taxes) and not vote Democrat ..and yet that doesn't seem to be represented by the majority of gay activist groups. That would be what I would refer to as a "clue". I have to acknowledge that this is true. Obviously, they aren't particularly welcomed by those activist groups, either. But, the activist groups don't necessarily speak for all. I would expect that anyone appointed by Obama would be a leftist, activist POS, gay or not. I guess that my point is that if conservatives focus and harp on the "gay" aspect, then we will continue to alienate many people who might actually have a lot in common with us. Let's stick to the salient requirements for a SCOTUS judge - the ability and intent to deal with the law as written, and not to reform society into some liberal's attempt at Paradise. |
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I have to acknowledge that this is true. Obviously, they aren't particularly welcomed by those activist groups, either. But, the activist groups don't necessarily speak for all. I would expect that anyone appointed by Obama would be a leftist, activist POS, gay or not. I guess that my point is that if conservatives focus and harp on the "gay" aspect, then we will continue to alienate many people who might actually have a lot in common with us. Let's stick to the salient requirements for a SCOTUS judge - the ability and intent to deal with the law as written, and not to reform society into some liberal's attempt at Paradise. See, that's where you're missing part of our current problem. George Will can write all the articles in the world outlining Nominee X's judicial philosophies and the failings of her point of view, and it won't matter because according to CNN, MSNBC, CBS, etc people will be opposing her because she's a minority female that's gay. The gay thing becomes a primary focus not because it is one, but because it serves useful propaganda purposes for the leftists and statists for it to BE one. That way their opponents are not people who are championing the virtues of judges actually obeying the Constitution...they are big meanies who beat up on a gay chick. |
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I personally don't care if the person picked is openly gay, is still in the closet, is deeply religious, or an atheist, or of any particular race, gender, or culture. My only concern is whether or not the individual selected will honor the Constitution and render decisions based on the law, or will that individual work to "fix" society from the bench. That's the question that needs to be discussed. All of the other things are just red herrings and misdirection. +1 J |
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See, that's where you're missing part of our current problem. George Will can write all the articles in the world outlining Nominee X's judicial philosophies and the failings of her point of view, and it won't matter because according to CNN, MSNBC, CBS, etc people will be opposing her because she's a minority female that's gay. They can do this because Republicans have been playing right into their hands for years. Doing more of the same (attacking the sexual orientation) is NOT going to make things any better. This is the biggest part of our current problem. Conservatives (as represented by the Republican Party) get all up in arms over things like this, instead of focusing on making everyone's life better by getting government out of non-governmental processes. |
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What percent of openly gay people would have no problem making a ruling to advance their cause with absolutely no jurisprudence? I'd have to guess it would be in the high 90s. What percentage of Arfcommers would let their bias affect their estimate of a situation they probably know nothing about? Probably about the same as your guess... |
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Shep is gay, Please tell me your not serious 
I thought everyone knew that. ETA: I bet you think Anderson Cooper is straight too. I have heard that Shep is gay also. Although in his lead up to the story he said something like " you won't believe who is on the list " Probably just playing the role to get you to keep watching |
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I personally don't care if the person picked is openly gay, is still in the closet, is deeply religious, or an atheist, or of any particular race, gender, or culture. My only concern is whether or not the individual selected will honor the Constitution and render decisions based on the law, or will that individual work to "fix" society from the bench. That's the question that needs to be discussed. All of the other things are just red herrings and misdirection. +1 |