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Posted: 3/15/2006 12:17:12 PM EDT
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Why would you need 32x on a .223? Or even 24 for that matter?
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Posted: 3/15/2006 12:17:38 PM EDT
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Listerene.
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Posted: 3/15/2006 12:20:29 PM EDT
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For $300, get a Super Sniper 10x, all you need on a AR.
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Posted: 3/15/2006 12:22:43 PM EDT
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WAAAY too much magnifcation... Unless you are gonna be using it for benchrest type stuff, and even then its prolly a bad idea.
You could get a "super Sniper" for ~300 thats prolly your best bet. They are fixed power 10x and 16x IIRC for a .223 I'd reccomend the 10x. Alternatively there are some bushnell elite scopes in that range too I think the 3200.... |
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Posted: 3/15/2006 12:24:33 PM EDT
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I am planning on shooting at over 600 YDS with it on fairly small targets. |
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Posted: 3/15/2006 12:28:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/15/2006 12:33:48 PM EDT
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600 yards with a .223 is really stretching things. You must be one heck of a rifle shot. |
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Posted: 3/15/2006 12:34:46 PM EDT
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the Burris Line of Fullfield II's fall in this price range, i have a 4.5-14X42mm. it is an incredible scope, ballistics plex, have it on my .30-06. they run about 350. not as powerful, but it is variable.
just remember a scopes ability to render resoultion is almost more important than the magnification. and the Burris scopes have extremly high resolution. i can see .223 holes in paper at 150 plus yards at the 14x mag. |
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Posted: 3/15/2006 12:37:09 PM EDT
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Are you serious! You need to get out to the range a little more often. 
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Posted: 3/15/2006 12:41:20 PM EDT
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Super Sniper from SWFA.COM, can't beat it for the buck! BTW, I love mine! I went ahead and splurged on the side-focus model which will cost about $400 instead of $300 but it's worth every penny and SWFA shipped it FREE!
 Another Happy Camper |
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Posted: 3/15/2006 12:43:50 PM EDT
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I shoot my .223 bolt action quite frequently at fairly long distances (out to about 400 yards). I shoot groundhogs, which are not overly small targets. Doping wind and compensating for bullet drop at 600 yards is not easy. At those ranges, .308 and above makes more sense. YMMV. |
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Posted: 3/15/2006 12:48:40 PM EDT
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What power scope are you using? |
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Posted: 3/15/2006 12:52:19 PM EDT
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Glass is one of those things that you get what you pay for. For 300 bucks, you're not getting much. Things get worse if you try to up the magnification without doing the same for quality.
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Posted: 3/15/2006 12:57:01 PM EDT
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That's funny, i could have sworn most hp a-t-c competitors have got the drop part figured out pretty well. And learning to "dope" wind is harder out at that distance, but again, folks are posting some crazy scores with their 20" .223's with irons.  oh yeah- unless you have a 15 lb rifle, recoil will affect your holding ability after 30 or more rounds with a .308. so a 260 or 6XC is what more people are using, instead of a .308. Unless you are using a prone style rifle like a "rock" or some such. |
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Posted: 3/15/2006 2:17:28 PM EDT
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exactly what i was talking about with the resolustion thing. |
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Posted: 3/15/2006 2:21:30 PM EDT
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Ok, at 600 yds through a 24 or 32x scope you won't see shit through the mirage. You'll see your target swimming around and you won't hit it. There is a reason most long range shooters don't use uber high magnification optics and that is one of them. For 600yds get the 10x or perhaps up to 16x Though I would recomend 10x since mirage problems are way less pronounced.
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Posted: 3/15/2006 2:23:03 PM EDT
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I shoot prairie dogs at some pretty good ranges. 4-500yds ispretty common.
And I do it with a cheap Simmons 44Mag scope. 6.5-20X. These guys that are telling you that a 10X will do all you need are dead-nuts correct. I rarely turn mine up past 14, simply because the mirage is too bad at a higher magnification. |
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Posted: 3/15/2006 2:27:27 PM EDT
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+1 on this Burris. Awesome scope, forever warrenty and you still can get the package were you get a free Burris compact spotting scope. You'll love your Varmiter, I had one before I got my Wilson UT15 and it was a real tack driver. Great praire dog rifle. |
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Posted: 3/15/2006 2:34:34 PM EDT
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I have a 20x Simmons on my Varminter and I just shot one with a 32x Black Diamond scope and its sweet. it is not way too much magnification when your shooting 300 yards |
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Posted: 3/15/2006 2:36:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/15/2006 2:38:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/15/2006 2:45:38 PM EDT
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This is a Video of me shooting a prairie dog at 350-375 yards and we were shooting them all day at those distances and my 20x Simmons certainly helped out.
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Posted: 3/15/2006 2:57:54 PM EDT
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HP targets are a tad bit larger than prairie dogs or groundhogs. 
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Posted: 3/15/2006 4:23:23 PM EDT
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Burris Fullfield II 4-14x42 on a Colt Accurrized rifle.
You can't beat the Burris Fullfield II, excellent value. |
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