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Posted: 10/28/2006 9:07:33 PM EST
What does your company use?
We use the Survivair Panther.
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Link Posted: 10/29/2006 12:23:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dieselman:
What does your company use?
We use the Survivair Panther.


Another Panther user here. Do you have the speaker unit, makes life much nicer.

We don't have the one with the HUD yet.

Link Posted: 10/29/2006 3:12:11 AM EST
Interspiro
Link Posted: 10/29/2006 3:31:10 AM EST
We use the Scott Air Pack 50.

Link Posted: 10/29/2006 3:47:48 AM EST
Scott 4500 psi 30 min carbon or kevlar cylinders with integrated pass. Some have buddy breathers but most don't. The ones coming on our new trucks have the rit connection, buddy breathers and the hud. Supposedly all of our older scbas are going to be retrofitted will all the newer bells and whistles.
Link Posted: 10/29/2006 4:27:20 AM EST
MSA Stealth
Link Posted: 10/29/2006 4:36:47 AM EST
ISI Viking DXL.

I absolutely love them.

With the new NFPA req. add on's, they are more fragile than the older ones.
Link Posted: 10/29/2006 4:53:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2006 4:54:24 AM EST by tinman5]
+1 on the Scott 50 4500 psi
Link Posted: 10/29/2006 5:00:50 AM EST

Originally Posted By BigJ491:
We use the Scott Air Pack 50.

www.scotthealthsafety.com/images/lg_airpak50_02.jpg


This is what we have. HUD needs a second battery, and is more hype than value. We switched from MSA to Scott in 1996 and havent looked back. The new bottles are a little lighter than the first generation wrapped ones..... which is always nice. We are one of two departments in the county that operate 4500 packs.

Interspiro users, have you been following the issues about pack to bottle seal problems?
Link Posted: 10/29/2006 5:42:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2006 5:50:35 AM EST by tac45]
We have MSA W/ HUD and RIT pack. I prefer the Scotts though. I think it depends on what you train with. Other guys who went through a different Standards school used MSA and hate Scott. I started off w/ Scott.

I find the MSA mask to be bottom heavy and very uncomfortable and the HUD doesn't work most of the time. And the mask is right size. That is the excuse the guys give at work. "Well your mask just isn't fitted properly." Oh yeah, I hate that rail system they have to clip the regulator in. Especially when you are working in the dark. And the PASS device button should be alot bigger like on Scotts. I would hate to be caught in an "oh shit" situation and fumble w/ that button

PS. Does anybody know where I can get a voice amplifier for MSA?
Link Posted: 10/29/2006 5:55:13 AM EST
My dept has new (<1yr) MSA packs and we absolutely love them. We have the 4500 psi 45 min bottles on them.
Before that we used older Scott 2.2 packs.
Link Posted: 10/29/2006 7:00:05 AM EST

Originally Posted By PVFD304:

Originally Posted By Dieselman:
What does your company use?
We use the Survivair Panther.


Another Panther user here. Do you have the speaker unit, makes life much nicer.

We don't have the one with the HUD yet.



Yes. We have the speaker unit and the HUD. I seldom use the HUD. It's hard to see in my opinion. I just look at the gauge. Oh, 30 minute packs is what we got.
Link Posted: 10/29/2006 7:11:41 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2006 7:14:22 AM EST by ff36ike]
Drager air boss with the HUD and 45 min bottles started using 45 min bottles when we lost two guys.
like them alot but mask fog up easy when your wearing them and not plugged in because the LDV hole is kinda small.
The HUD in my opinon is useless I guess Im just use to the low air whistle
Link Posted: 10/29/2006 7:30:54 AM EST
We use Scott 4500's as well. No amplifiers on ours. Our Chief says he's working to reslove that problem.
Link Posted: 10/29/2006 7:34:44 AM EST
OBAs

Not anymore though. MSA Firehawk (got a Blackhawk by mistake too but sent it back)
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+1 on the Scott 50. Ours have all the bells and whistles, HUD, RIT hook up, integrated pass, lightweight bottles. Like the HUD gives you a rough idea as to where your at in regards to air and air consumption. You really do need to work with it a bunch to make it second nature though. Need to know where abouts what pressures the lights go out.
Link Posted: 10/29/2006 4:13:39 PM EST
We are using new MSA with the HUD, voice boxes and RIT packs & 45 min carbon fiber bottles. The HUD seems to eat batteries, but works just fine for us & the regulator rail can be a pain, but it's nice to hang the regulator there so it's close by. Like them way better than the old SurvivAir packs they replaced.

Link Posted: 10/29/2006 4:15:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By tac45:

PS. Does anybody know where I can get a voice amplifier for MSA?


www.gasesplus.com/ is who we get all our MSA gear & pieces parts from, they are great people to deal with.
Link Posted: 10/29/2006 4:46:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By BigJ491:
We use the Scott Air Pack 50.

www.scotthealthsafety.com/images/lg_airpak50_02.jpg



what I use, but I ain't LEO, just oilfield trash.....
Link Posted: 10/29/2006 5:38:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By TXDO-631:
We use Scott 4500's as well. No amplifiers on ours. Our Chief says he's working to reslove that problem.


Officers and those that were fill-ins were supplied with voice amps here until the grant process was established. Most of us bought our own long before this took place...sucked but you do what you have to sometimes. So those of us that bought them have backups when the dept issued units get wet. While on topic, Id like to see Scott design a better mount than the av2000/av3000 disaster they came up with.
Link Posted: 10/29/2006 5:44:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2006 5:47:17 PM EST by txgp17]
Intershit

I mean, Interspiro.
Total crap in my opinion. I'd rather have an MSA or ISI any day of the week.

Oh yeah, and our Chief was determined that we have in-mask integrated communications (speaker & microphone). That was a total waste of tax payer's money. We since received an official order to remove them from all SCBA's.
Link Posted: 10/29/2006 6:06:06 PM EST
New MSA's that are only 1 or 2 years old. HUD, rit connection, and an integral bailout system. We love them!
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 2:13:19 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 2:50:13 AM EST
Went with the MSA Firehawk last year. Integrated PASS, Extend-Air, RIC, HUD, etc...

So far we have no serious issues with these, although having to change the batteries in the PASS, HUD reciever and transmitter, and voice amplifier is a pain in the ass.
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 5:47:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By BigJ491:
We use the Scott Air Pack 50.

www.scotthealthsafety.com/images/lg_airpak50_02.jpg



+1
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 7:37:27 AM EST
Scott packs with integrated pass alarm and fiberglass wrapped 30 mintute bottles. I'm lucky to get 15-20 minutes out of it. I'm pushing for the larger 45 minute bottles but all of the rigs would need new seat mounts for the larger bottle.
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 8:20:54 AM EST
Interspiro w/ voice amps.
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 4:45:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By Striker:

Originally Posted By TacticalPenguin:

Originally Posted By BigJ491:
We use the Scott Air Pack 50.

www.scotthealthsafety.com/images/lg_airpak50_02.jpg



what I use, but I ain't LEO, just oilfield trash.....

Hey TacticalPenguin..ya gotta be as crazy as us LEO's to work the patch...



Well striker, got all my schooling to be wither a lawyer or LEO, and decided the adrenaline rush was bigger in the pa.tch. (pay is nice too)


Might go i n for LEO later on, have to see what life holds for me and mine, there is talk of AB going to a Provincial Force..... not sure if that is good nor not, just new
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 6:30:23 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/31/2006 10:49:28 AM EST
We upgraded a few years ago from MSA Ultralight 2200's to the MSA's with the ICM/PASS and MMR's (Millenium?). HUD's on the masks.

Like 'em, but for some reason our (then) Chief decided to spec them out as 2200 Psi rigs, instead of going to 3k. Same pack, same bottle, different pressure relief spring in the Quickfill port.

And we got 'em with a grant so it's not like we had to pay for the extra 800 pounds of air...
Link Posted: 10/31/2006 6:08:25 PM EST
MSA FireHawk with voice amps, heads up and self rescue pouch w/ buddy breathing hose.

Only neg is still running 2216 instead of 4500 bottles. Other than that their great.
Link Posted: 11/1/2006 12:47:37 PM EST
Work: Scott 50's
Volly: MSA Firehawks...... MMR, HUD Voice Amp. We've only had them about eight months..... Only problem we've had is leaks on the bottles, right around the gauge area..... Anyone else having this problem? Sucks to put a pack on only to find out it's empty....
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