Posted: 5/11/2007 1:42:07 PM EDT
Wow..Check out the guy doing crunches on broken glass while his buddy drops a knife on his belly...
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I get the feeling that said poster hasn't had much interaction with the Russian military - even the conscripts. I would like to be wrong, of course. |
You know nothing of the Spetznaz initiation, then. |
Bad ass is all you can say about those guys. I would hate to be on the wrong side of them. |
After a person is accepted into Spetznaz, his fellow Spetznaz members gather around him and beat and kick the shit out of him. |
Didn't the Red Army get pressed into things like harvesting crops and building roads back in the Cold War? There were also stories floating around about the typical Russian soldier only live firing 30 rounds a year. |
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They need to be that tough to beat democracy advocates senseless. Fuck the Russians. They may seem tough, but Russia is the Wild, Wild East ruled ruthlessly by horribly violent and brutal gangsters. These cops show off now, but they'll be bribe-taking motherfuckers tomorrow. Our cops may not go through such rigorous (ahem, stupidly dangerous) initiations, but they seem to do a much better job of actually combating crime. |
I saw Red Scorpion. Spetznaz are baaad dudes. |
Do you know any Russians, speak Russian, have you ever been to Russia or do you just get your info from the TV and movies? |
And what does that accomplish? Does it train him to fight hard, honorably, and smartly? Every Soviet-style army we've faced we've categorically beaten on the battlefield. Our Army at its worst would make the Russians look like crude amatuers. |
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The Spetznaz are a very close-knit group and it is doubtful that they will share alot with outsiders, to be quite truthful. |
Awesome! Good luck. |
Harrisonburg has a sizeable Russian immigrant population, a couple of my shooting buddies hail from that community. I used to date a Russian. I don't hate the Russian people by any means, but if you are seriously attempting to deny that the Russian government isn't a corrupt joke you've not been paying attention friend. The same folks who were skimming during Breznev's day are still around, just much more powerful. |
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I love Colts - probably by second favorite plane next to the A-10. You lucky bastard. |
My roommate is Russian - he says the cops are extremely corrupt. His uncle is a big-businessman and bribes gov officials and the mafia alike on a regular basis. It is simply a cost of doing business. The police will also steal from you, if you are not wealthy or powerful politically. |
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Russian cops are extraordinarily corrupt and dishonest. They also do the dirty work of the Putin government--beating up and jailing dissidents and breaking up pro-democracy anti-government rallies. They arrested and broke up the latest freedom rally by arresting former world chess champ Gary Kasparov and beating the crap out government opposition leaders. Russian Police commonly make false accusations to charge people so that they may extract bribes from innocent victims. I can't believe you morons admire these jackasses. |
J/K Kind of a Russian version of "Better get while the gettin's good..." (Yeah. I cheated. translation2.paralink.com/  )
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I -DO- admire people who are professionals, and show dedication to their work and their compatriots, even if I don't like who they're working for. |
Careful now, you KNOW you got that from the TV, right??????  |
Yeah, that's what the Germans thought too. I hope my late father-in-law was laughing at that as he wrote his name on the wall of the Reichstag after he entered Berlin with the Red Army. All I know is when I was there I made myself as nondesrcipt as possible when the militsia were around. No way I wanted to get their attention. As it was I had a Krinkov in my face one morning around 4 a.m. when we were on our way to Pulkovo airport in St. Petersburg. Damn that hole in the end of the barrel was big. And the guy up on the guard tower had us covered with an MG too. They were stopping cars and checking for smugglers and contraband. Good thing we don't have Russian cops here. My wife says they will ticket you if your car is dirty. I'd be paying lots of fines. |
Russias got a shitload of problems, but that doesn't make all those protestors angels, and every criminal a political one. Kasparov is a commie and an extremist, and most of the protestors in that event were communist agitators. They have been getting really fired up lately. Most recently, they came out in force on May Day and Victory Day. I am sure some communist websites have nothing good to say about the cops in Seattle who dealt with the WTO protests either. Don't fall into the trap of automatically assuming the enemy of your enemy is your friend. If you think Russia is hard to deal with now, it would be unimaginable if Kasparov's buddies came to power. |
When I posted this I ment there regular Army, not the airborne or Speznats. Everyone knows those people are crazy, every a person not educated in russian military stuff.
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It's more about the totality of circumstances than the recent events. I really wasn't even thinking of Kasparov anyway. I was commenting on EVERYTHING I'VE EVER HEARD SAID ABOUT THE RUSSIAN POLICE BY EVERY RUSSIAN I'VE EVER MET. This includes a guy who was in the KGB. The nation's government is corrupt at every level and has been since the Brezhnev era. The nation's markets are almost completely dependent on the mob-controlled black markets and has been since the Brezhnev era. The Brezhnev era is what truly led to democratization, not the uskroniye, glasnost, and perestroika of Gorbachev. Sadly, it is also what led to the current corruption. |
You do realize that the Soviets weren't the only people prosecuting the war, right? I wonder how easily the Soviets would have taken Berlin if the USAAF and RAF hadn't been bombing the living daylights out of every materiel manufacturing plant in Reich territory. Likewise, the Western Allies wouldn't have been able to invade Europe successfully if the Soviets hadn't been tying up German resources on the Eastern Front. It was a team effort. And it's not like weather didn't play a favorable role for the Soviets. |