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Posted: 9/7/2013 7:46:12 PM EDT
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/Global-cooling-Arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html




Record return of Arctic ice cap as it grows by 60% in a year with top scientists warning of global COOLING





  • Almost a million more square miles of ocean covered with ice than in 2012

  • BBC reported in 2007 global warming would leave Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013

  • Publication of UN climate change report suggesting global warming caused by humans pushed back to later this month









A chilly Arctic summer has left nearly
a million more square miles of ocean covered with ice than at the same
time last year – an increase of 60 per cent.


The
rebound from 2012’s record low comes six years after the BBC reported
that global warming would leave the Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013.


Instead,
days before the annual autumn re-freeze is due to begin, an unbroken
ice sheet more than half the size of Europe already stretches from the
Canadian islands to Russia’s northern shores.


The Northwest Passage from the
Atlantic to the Pacific has remained blocked by pack-ice all year. More
than 20 yachts that had planned to sail it have been left ice-bound and a
cruise ship attempting the route was forced to turn back.


Some
eminent scientists now believe the world is heading for a period of
cooling that will not end until the middle of this century – a process
that would expose computer forecasts of imminent catastrophic warming as
dangerously misleading.


The
disclosure comes 11 months after The Mail on Sunday triggered intense
political and scientific debate by revealing that global warming has
‘paused’ since the beginning of 1997 – an event that the computer models
used by climate experts failed to predict.


In
March, this newspaper further revealed that temperatures are about to
drop below the level that the models forecast with ‘90 per cent
certainty’.


The pause –
which has now been accepted as real by every major climate research
centre – is important, because the models’ predictions of
ever-increasing global temperatures have made many of the world’s
economies divert billions of pounds into ‘green’ measures to counter  
climate change.


Those predictions now appear gravely flawed.

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Link Posted: 9/7/2013 7:51:20 PM EDT
Global warming is a cult.  

My favorite were the copper mines that were found after a glacier had receded in Europe.  That means sometime when man began to mine copper the glacier had receded far beyond the point of the mine.  Not to much CO2 being released by man prior to copper mining, so who does Gore blame that on?
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 7:53:08 PM EDT
Why do you think they replaced "global warming" with "climate change"? Because they can't predict shit, and it's all America's fault.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 7:54:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:02:12 PM EDT
LOL, I did a presentation in high school as the Global Cooling party leader. I guess my parody was actually correct!
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:02:30 PM EDT
You don't have to be very old (I don't think I am) to remember when the scientists were warning of the next Ice Age.

I, fortunately, had a very 'honest' Professor in college. You have to look at the data yourself, not the conclusions. The Conclusions are often written to get you funding from politicians in the next fiscal year. Wrong conclusions = No Funding.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:02:56 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:04:16 PM EDT
Governments often use boogeymen to incite fear in the population and use that fear to elicit an irrational demand from the public for even more govt power. This is just one example.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:10:49 PM EDT
Just finished the book 'Resolute'.  It's the story of the various Franklin expedition rescue attempts.  Even though the explorers/rescuers spent decades trying to figure out what happened to the Franklin expedition they could never seem to grasp the idea that various bays, straights, etc could be open one year and not the next - or the next several.

Near as I can tell, they still haven't figured that out.

Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:10:54 PM EDT


I was right to burn tires on Earth Day!











Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:12:32 PM EDT
The Landscheidt Minimum is upon us.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:15:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:17:01 PM EDT
Landscheight minimum.

Will get cooler for the neck few decades.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:21:30 PM EDT
Oh boy. Arfcom is so smart.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:22:24 PM EDT
I remember watching a video in college (around 06') from the 80's or early 90's that had several scientists saying that large parts of the Florida coast would be underwater by the year 2000.  



Our professor showed us this video to make the point that a lot of what we hear about climate change is pure conjecture, and some of it is pure bullshit.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:26:59 PM EDT
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I thought it was the Merrel(sp?) Minimum







This could be worse thanY2K
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:32:17 PM EDT
CLEARLY this sudden growth in the ice cap is because of the Toyota Prius.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:41:12 PM EDT
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That's right. Environmental efforts have worked so well the trend is reversing. But... we can't let up. We need to continue throttling coal plants, taxing consumers, selling CO2 credits and pouring money into alternative energy so that our children around the world can breathe and/or not be flooded out of their homes.
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I thought it was the Merrel(sp?) Minimum







This could be worse thanY2K
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The Landscheidt Minimum is upon us.


I thought it was the Merrel(sp?) Minimum







This could be worse thanY2K

You are thinking of the MAUNDER minimum, middle 18th century.
This solar  minimum is OUR turn.. How many cords of firewood do YOU have stacked?
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:47:37 PM EDT
Does this mean we get to have polar bears again?  
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:53:27 PM EDT
As I recall there was a big storm last year at just the right time that trapped a lot of heat and broke up the icepack leading to the record low, this years ice is back to recent norms.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:53:32 PM EDT
2013 conflict in Syria blamed on drought caused by global warming — Flashback 1933: ‘YO-YO BANNED IN SYRIA – Blamed For Drought By Moslems’


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Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:54:45 PM EDT
Turns out that Sarin stops global warming.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:56:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:56:16 PM EDT
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Applied properly.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:56:47 PM EDT
Uh-oh. I guess I'd better stop recycling and get a muscle car.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 8:59:32 PM EDT
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You are thinking of the MAUNDER minimum, middle 18th century.
This solar  minimum is OUR turn.. How many cords of firewood do YOU have stacked?
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The Landscheidt Minimum is upon us.


I thought it was the Merrel(sp?) Minimum







This could be worse thanY2K

You are thinking of the MAUNDER minimum, middle 18th century.
This solar  minimum is OUR turn.. How many cords of firewood do YOU have stacked?



You have not read Merrell obviously. Probably a good thing you have not, it can be terrifying.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 9:00:26 PM EDT

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CLEARLY this sudden growth in the ice cap is because of the Toyota Prius.
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Link Posted: 9/7/2013 9:03:09 PM EDT
Photoshop
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 9:03:23 PM EDT
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Turns out that Sarin stops global warming.



Applied properly.

Less people, less Co2....makes sense.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 9:06:11 PM EDT
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You have not read Merrell obviously. Probably a good thing you have not, it can be terrifying.
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Provide links, I will read them.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 9:09:03 PM EDT
Time to stock up on ammo and have myself tested to see if I have the correct genetic mutation to protect me from humen prion desease. Hopefully my ancestors were canibals . Bring on the next ice age!
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 9:14:03 PM EDT
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Landscheight minimum.

Will get cooler for the neck few decades.
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Meh.  I've got a scarf.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 9:18:13 PM EDT
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You have not read Merrell obviously. Probably a good thing you have not, it can be terrifying.


Provide links, I will read them.


It is a reference to a certain poster on this board,AKA: sarcasm

You guys can't follow my drunk stuff
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 9:23:34 PM EDT
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It is a reference to a certain poster on this board,AKA: sarcasm

You guys can't follow my drunk stuff
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You have not read Merrell obviously. Probably a good thing you have not, it can be terrifying.


Provide links, I will read them.


It is a reference to a certain poster on this board,AKA: sarcasm

You guys can't follow my drunk stuff





I.   Will.   Remember.   This.  
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 9:26:43 PM EDT
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Bingo.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 9:27:12 PM EDT
When I was in high school physics my teacher (retired USMC) gave us a bit of an experiment to do.  He handed out a piece of blank paper and had us draw a short line on it, that he told us represents a year.  Then he had us measure the width of the line, we came to a consensus that the line is about 1mm.  so he then cut a strip 220 mm long, this is the length of time that the US has been a country.  then he grabbed a roll and cut a piece 10 meters long, this he said is the length of time that humans have existed. (turns out he was a little wrong but the point still stands). He then had us figure out how long the paper would be if we had 1 line for every year the earth has existed (4.3 billion years)  the paper would be 4300 kilometers long, so the point of this exercise is that when it comes to earth, and solar system processes using the last 10 years, 100, 500, 1000 or 10000 while it may be a long time for us is almost insignificant in geologic time frames.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 9:31:17 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 9:50:13 PM EDT
I believe in global climate change as I think all the deforestation going on and urban sprawl is bad. I think we will see wind patterns change, more droughts, floods, fierce storms. Leveling forests and mountain tops will do that.

however,
I do not believe in global warming however.
Link Posted: 9/7/2013 10:03:27 PM EDT
Saved the article to send to our middle schools principle. They still have 8th graders read Al Gore's book and teach it as FACT.  3 years ago I helped my now 11th grader with some rebuttal on the report he had to write.



Looks like I'll be adding some umph to his little brother's report this year. Still can't believe they teach this shit.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 5:02:13 AM EDT

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I believe in global climate change as I think all the deforestation going on and urban sprawl is bad. I think we will see wind patterns change, more droughts, floods, fierce storms. Leveling forests and mountain tops will do that.



however,

I do not believe in global warming however.
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Believe being the operative word.

 
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Some eminent scientists now believe the world is heading for a period of cooling that will not end until the middle of this century
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You don't have to be very old (I don't think I am) to remember when the scientists were warning of the next Ice Age.
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Yep - Looks like we've finally come full-circle...

The April 8, 1977 issue of TIME Magazine:

Link Posted: 9/8/2013 5:20:05 AM EDT
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Applied properly.

Sarin. Apply directly to the forehead. Apply directly to the forehead.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 5:23:08 AM EDT
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As I recall there was a big storm last year at just the right time that trapped a lot of heat and broke up the icepack leading to the record low, this years ice is back to recent norms.
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DARPA  
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 5:30:47 AM EDT
Hole on the ozone layer is too small, Time to bust out the hairspray again!
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 5:32:39 AM EDT
I needed a place to dump my cooler

that's how it came back that fast.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 5:32:51 AM EDT
Welcome to the DYNAMIC planet.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 5:47:31 AM EDT
Photoshop
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 5:49:37 AM EDT
Typical Daily Mail hype.  2012 was an anomaly.









See http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/



 
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 5:55:38 AM EDT
Oops........
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Is that like the Constitution being a living, breathing document?
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