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4/7/2007 6:02:31 AM EDT
After doing some research I've decided to replace my Escort 8500 with a Beltronics RX65 Pro. I've used Cincinnati Microwave products for years and understand they now own Beltronics. Anyone out there use the RX 65?
4/7/2007 6:04:07 AM EDT
[#1]
You are about to get a bunch of people telling you
to buy a valentine, or stay home.

4/7/2007 6:05:41 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
You are about to get a bunch of people telling you
to buy a valentine, or stay home.




Damn you!
4/7/2007 6:05:56 AM EDT
[#3]
Save your $$$ and drive close to the speed limit.
4/7/2007 6:09:23 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Save your $$$ and drive close to the speed limit.


Quote for ever.
4/7/2007 6:18:32 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Save your $$$ and drive close to the speed limit.


Shush Ab..

Just cuz some of us have the ability to get out of speeding doesn't mean you can hold everyone else down!
4/7/2007 6:20:25 AM EDT
[#6]
Why not just quit trying to beat the PoPo and make it a bit safer for the rest of us out there?
4/7/2007 6:21:27 AM EDT
[#7]
Valentine's are dog ugly and overpriced IMO. Been driving for over 30 years and have had one speeding ticket. That was in PA back in 88, only because I thought my detector was falsing!

4/7/2007 6:27:19 AM EDT
[#8]
Valentine 1, don't screw around.

and to all the "drive the speed limit" whiners
"may the chains rest gently against your shoulders"
4/7/2007 6:28:31 AM EDT
[#9]
Watch the truckers, if they're speeding - no police are around.
4/7/2007 6:29:08 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Watch the truckers, if they're speeding - no police are around.
yup
4/7/2007 6:39:24 AM EDT
[#11]
I've got V1's in each of my cars. We look at the spped limit as only a suggestion. Around town I'll never be intentionally speeding but occassionaly I might just be sticking with traffic which is a bad thing - in a 40 they'll do 55 sometimes. These guys driving to and from Los Angeles are doing everything to cut three mintues off their +hour long commute. On the highways it's +15 to +20 mph over the limit and the police hardly care --- hardly. Occassionally you'll get someone with a hardon and they'll pull someone over.

Most of the highways west of the Mississippi were designed for 75 mph or better. When the speed limits were returned to their designed limits things got a whole lot better and the people actually hit the limit and then +5 mph and you'l see the traffic doing 80 mph. In places where they've kept the limit at 55 mph the people still do 75 mph.

The directional arrows are nice on the V1. The CHiP likes to play in traffic where they'll creep up from behind bursting their radar occassionally checking someone out in front of them. They'll also pace people in their blind spots so when I find someone playing in traffic I have to slow down to within 5 mph and let the traffic flow around me while I sit in the slow lane. If I get warnings from the front I know I have a stationary trap which I will quickly pass. Sideways indicators tend to be false alarms from automatic door openers.
4/7/2007 6:42:12 AM EDT
[#12]
AGNTSA!!!
4/7/2007 6:44:17 AM EDT
[#13]
We also look at speed limits as a suggestion.  I've got the Escort X50 in my car, and will soon add one to Mrs. JackTs car.  It really, for me, came down to price.  Everything I read put the V1 and the X50 at the top of the list. . .some lists had the V1 first, some had the X50 first.  I decided to keep my $100 and forgo the arrows.

Watching truckers is great. . .except that I drive 30+ miles to work every day and can't remember the last time I saw a truck on the road.
4/7/2007 6:53:41 AM EDT
[#14]
Always have a few cars in front of you, dont be "leader of the pack". Look for when they "break" real quick, if they do its a warning sign to slow down. Also look at the behaviors of truckers. Also, try in gerneal to know which places are "safer" than others. For example dont EVER Speed on the NJ TPKE, they have speed traps down to a science, even your radar detector wont do a damn bit o' good there. And lastly, have fun getting raped up the ass by the state.
4/7/2007 7:06:12 AM EDT
[#15]
I just watch as far ahead as possible, at every bend and curve.  It's easy to spot them before they get you (for the most part).  I also watch overpasses because I've seen a cops on an overpass doing the shooting and another cop up ahead ready to get you.  
Always watch up ahead for people hitting their brakes, especially tapping them a few times as a warning.  Watch oncoming traffic too for people flashing lights as a warning.  

We'd all be able to exercise our right to break the law and speed if everybody would just give these types of warnings to our fellow drivers.
4/7/2007 7:07:14 AM EDT
[#16]
Lets see. Like i said I've been driving for over 30 years, 50 mile highway commute back and forth to work for 24 of those years and have been using a detector since the Fuzzbuster, so I'm no novice when it comes to radar detectors or how Police use their radar units. I enjoy everyone's input but does anyone out there have experiance with the Bel RX65 pro?
4/7/2007 7:13:50 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
Save your $$$ and drive close to the speed limit.


+1
chances are by the time the detector goes off the cop's read your speed, or will see you spike the brakes
4/7/2007 7:18:59 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
You are about to get a bunch of people telling you to buy a valentine, or stay home.



With good reason!

If you want to avoid "auxiliary speed enforcement revenue" get a V1 and be reasonable about going "slightly" over the limit. No radar detector in the world is going to hide you if you are doing 120MPH through Mayberry. On the other hand, it will alert you to source & direction of potential threats. Not only is it extremely over-engineered (as opposed to the Chicom crap at Worst Buy) it is upgradeable.

I have never received a ticket while using my V1 (for over 10 years)

As a sidenote, there is a site called "radartests.com" which is run by a self-proclaimed "industry consultant" (Craig Peterson) who regularly trashes the V1. Seems this all started after Mike Valentine declined his "services".  Other companies which have hired this yoyo (Bel, etc) regularly receive rave reviews. Beware of such charlatans.

Read what others say: http://www.boostaholic.com/maxima/maxfaqs/misc.html

Every other enthusiast group (vette, BMW, Audi, NSX etc.) opts for the Valentine 1.

Not cheap, but quality rarely is. Get the V1 and don't look back.



Mike is also a member of the Association of Old Crows - that should give a little insight into the man behind the machine.
4/7/2007 7:33:47 AM EDT
[#19]
V1

I commuted about 100 miles a day from 1981 until Hurricane Katrina, I never had a radar detector and never got a ticket.

My wife convinced me to get the V1 and WOW!
I never leave home without it.

What a difference, no more straining into the rear view mirrors, no more guessing.
Now I KNOW what's up ahead....and what's behind.

This thing will pick up radar from over 4 miles away on straightish hilly roads, way, way before I can see it.

YMMV, mine didn't,
Bill
4/7/2007 7:37:41 AM EDT
[#20]
I have been putting off getting the new passport, my 8500 is showing it's age. The newest passport REALLY looks good(specs wise) and I am sticking with a company I have used and trusted.

As info, I tried my BIL V1, not really overly impressed.


ByteTheBullet  (-:
4/7/2007 7:39:59 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Save your $$$ and drive close to the speed limit.


+1
chances are by the time the detector goes off the cop's read your speed, or will see you spike the brakes


With Laser or instant on maybe.  On a straight road my Valentine 1 will pick up a radar signal from over 2 miles away.  That's about the longest straight stretch we have around here so it may perform even better than that.

The arrows and counter on the Valentine 1 are what give it the edge over the competition.  I can be driving and hear "beep" and instantly know if the cop is in front of me or behind me.  If he's behind me I know I either have to keep my speed up to increase my distance from him or slow down and get in the right lane and act like a good little driver.
4/7/2007 7:51:34 AM EDT
[#22]
Valentine 1

Accept no substitutes.

The enhanced situational awarness provided by the bogie counter and threat direction arrows are what sets the V1 far above the rest.  
4/7/2007 7:54:08 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Always have a few cars in front of you, dont be "leader of the pack". Look for when they "break" real quick, if they do its a warning sign to slow down. Also look at the behaviors of truckers. Also, try in gerneal to know which places are "safer" than others. For example dont EVER Speed on the NJ TPKE, they have speed traps down to a science, even your radar detector wont do a damn bit o' good there. And lastly, have fun getting raped up the ass by the state.


NJ Tpke doesn't scare me too much.

I am more afraid of the parkway.
4/7/2007 7:54:27 AM EDT
[#24]
Uh, the Passport has a bogie counter too.


ByteTheBullet  (-:
4/7/2007 7:57:38 AM EDT
[#25]
Question:  The VA State Police use instant on radar guns.  I was just on a jury trial that involved a drunk who had been busted by the trooper using one of those.  It got a lot worse and he went to jail for a long time for other charges too...but what about the gun?  
Can detectors detect it?
4/7/2007 8:00:50 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
Question:  The VA State Police use instant on radar guns.  I was just on a jury trial that involved a drunk who had been busted by the trooper using one of those.  It got a lot worse and he went to jail for a long time for other charges too...but what about the gun?  
Can detectors detect it?


Sure.

Instant on is like constant on (leaving it running). But the police just target individual specifically.

If you're the leader of the pack and the officer is using IO, then you're fucked.

Bottom line:  Get yourself a rabbit.

ETA: Page 2 belong to moi! And VA sucks with banning of RDs..
4/7/2007 8:12:49 AM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Question:  The VA State Police use instant on radar guns.  I was just on a jury trial that involved a drunk who had been busted by the trooper using one of those.  It got a lot worse and he went to jail for a long time for other charges too...but what about the gun?  
Can detectors detect it?


Sure.

Instant on is like constant on (leaving it running). But the police just target individual specifically.

If you're the leader of the pack and the officer is using IO, then you're fucked.

Bottom line:  Get yourself a rabbit.

ETA: Page 2 belong to moi! And VA sucks with banning of RDs..


whats a rabbit?
4/7/2007 8:16:52 AM EDT
[#28]
whats a rabbit?

A car in front of you/Blocker car.
4/7/2007 8:17:34 AM EDT
[#29]
I have experimented with RD's in the past. The RD's work only if the officer is either driving around with his radar constantly on or the officer radars a vehicle in front of you and this gives you a chance to slow down.

4/7/2007 8:19:12 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
whats a rabbit?


Someone who is in front of you who will get 'tagged', allowing you to slow down.

Some people think that having a rabbit means you are riding his ass... no.. put some distance between you and him and match his speed.
4/7/2007 8:19:59 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
I have experimented with RD's in the past. The RD's work only if the officer is either driving around with his radar constantly on or the officer radars a vehicle in front of you and this gives you a chance to slow down.



Well, yeah.. its dependent on the usage of the radar gun.

If its not being used, it won't detect.
4/7/2007 9:57:48 AM EDT
[#32]
But how do you beat VASCAR?
4/7/2007 10:59:16 AM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
But how do you beat VASCAR?


Don't go to places that use them?
4/7/2007 11:05:01 AM EDT
[#34]
My RD only saved me once, but my eyes saved me more times than I can count.  I think having any decent RD keeps you focused way down the road and makes you drive better.
4/7/2007 11:07:06 AM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
But how do you beat VASCAR?


Good camo paint job.
4/7/2007 11:47:49 AM EDT
[#36]


We look at the spped limit as only a suggestion.


quote of the freakin century!!  

i don't mind radar detectors, but if i ever stop someone for speeding with one, automatic ticket, i've said it time and again, but that's my viewpoint on it.  if you want one, wear it out, just don't get caught..
4/7/2007 11:59:23 AM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Save your $$$ and drive close to the speed limit.


+1
chances are by the time the detector goes off the cop's read your speed, or will see you spike the brakes


+1 So true! My radar return is almost instantaneous! I can't count how many people I've stroked that have radar detectors. (So they slowed down fast, big deal- I still got their original speed).
4/7/2007 12:07:06 PM EDT
[#38]
Buy the Valentine One, or drive within 2 MPH of the speed limit.
4/7/2007 12:07:34 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
i don't mind radar detectors, but if i ever stop someone for speeding with one, automatic ticket, i've said it time and again, but that's my viewpoint on it.  if you want one, wear it out, just don't get caught..


Same here. 8 out of 10 times you might beat me. But the one time I get you you get no breaks. Sometimes your the windshield, sometimes your the bug.
4/7/2007 12:47:59 PM EDT
[#40]
A Valentine 1 or nothing.
4/7/2007 12:51:53 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
Watch the truckers, if they're speeding - no police are around.


Some roads in my area of NY don't allow commercial traffic so there are no truckers to observe.
4/7/2007 12:53:59 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Watch the truckers, if they're speeding - no police are around.


Some roads in my area of NY don't allow commercial traffic so there are no truckers to observe.


In NJ.. trucks are disallowed from traveling in the 'fast lane' (lane 3).

So, its kind of hard to judge.
4/7/2007 12:58:53 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
whats a rabbit?

A car in front of you/Blocker car.


I call them "pointman"

I usually get into a little cat and mouse driving on the highway in my little compact just to get their ego bruised - "how did that little Honda pass me like that?" and then I let them pass me when the road opens up from other motorists... SUCKER!!!

Works every time. Most men, the younger the better, and almost all women drivers fall for this. Works especially well late at night/early morning right after the bars close and the drivers "have a couple" in the bloodstream - added bonus when the get pulled for DUI/DWI
4/7/2007 1:00:15 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:

Quoted:
whats a rabbit?

A car in front of you/Blocker car.


I call them "pointman"

I usually get into a little cat and mouse driving on the highway in my little compact just to get their ego bruised - "how did that little Honda pass me like that?" and then I let them pass me when the road opens up from other motorists... SUCKER!!!

Works every time. Most men, the younger the better, and almost all women drivers fall for this.



But... you're a po, no?
4/8/2007 3:28:55 AM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
whats a rabbit?

A car in front of you/Blocker car.


I call them "pointman"

I usually get into a little cat and mouse driving on the highway in my little compact just to get their ego bruised - "how did that little Honda pass me like that?" and then I let them pass me when the road opens up from other motorists... SUCKER!!!

Works every time. Most men, the younger the better, and almost all women drivers fall for this.



But... you're a po, no?


I'm willing to accept the penalty if I do get pulled over for driving fast.
4/8/2007 5:42:35 AM EDT
[#46]
I'm surprised no one mentioned a C.B. radio. Several years ago I had one in my truck. Whenever I took a long trip on the interstate I would turn it on to channel 19 and listen for truckers to give reports on where the highway patrol was. I would have  20 or 30 miles of advance warning to slow down. WAY more than any radar dector. Not to mention road conditions, accidents and the occasional humorous rants. Plus they are legal in all 50 states.
4/8/2007 6:30:06 AM EDT
[#47]
I go back so far with radar detectors it isn't funny. I had a Super Snooper years before they even came out with the Fuzz Buster. I had an escort for many years. Valentine 1 is the best, but I don't use them anymore. Too risky.
4/8/2007 6:58:53 AM EDT
[#48]
I've never used a radar detector, but the things can only help you so much.  If you're scooting through commuter traffic, any cop is going to have a hard time picking you out of the crowd...which is why I never see cops during rush hour.  It also helps when everyone else is doing 77.

Just think about -when- you typically see police, and adjust your driving as needed.  That and basic situational awareness will crush any radar detector.

Highway patrol here in Utah doesn't give a flaming flip how fast you drive in I-80 west of town.  Of course, the fact that you can legally drive parallel to the highway on the salt flats at 650mph might have something to do with that.  The highway patrol is also nice enough not to mung up the morning commute by pulling over speeders.  There are also virtually no drunks on the road at 7:30 in the morning.

Prudence is the word.  Keep it reasonable on the surface streets, and never go more than 3-4 over anywhere -near- a residential area.

Or just go all out and buy an AN/ALQ-XXX, preferably the 131 Working for a defense contractor is cool.  Running a quad-band SATCOM terminal prototype through testing showed me that those things makes the world's greatest radar detectors and jammers.  Anything that can not only detect, but lock a modem, from a 10 watt transmitter 27,000 miles away will sure as hell see a highway patrolman 300 yards away on the highway on-ramp.  400 watts through a 40 dBi antenna will also render his radar useless...theoretically.  Not that I'd launch power like that at the guy, but I bet some of our side-lobe power is enough to saturate 'em.  It certainly gets the birds to stop standing on our equipment.
4/8/2007 7:03:23 AM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:
Why not just quit trying to beat the PoPo and make it a bit safer for the rest of us out there?


Slowing down doesn't make the road safer.  It's all about driver ability.  Some are safe at 90MPH.  Some suck at 30MPH.
4/8/2007 7:05:27 AM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:
Working for a defense contractor is cool.  Running a quad-band SATCOM terminal prototype through testing showed me that those things makes the world's greatest radar detectors and jammers.  Anything that can not only detect, but lock a modem, from a 10 watt transmitter 27,000 miles away will sure as hell see a highway patrolman 300 yards away on the highway on-ramp.  400 watts through a 40 dBi antenna will also render his radar useless...theoretically.  Not that I'd launch power like that at the guy, but I bet some of our side-lobe power is enough to saturate 'em.  It certainly gets the birds to stop standing on our equipment.


You made my brain hurt.
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