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Posted: 10/29/2008 5:03:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/30/2008 10:23:36 AM EST by John_Wayne777]
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:05:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2008 5:05:53 PM EST by machinisttx]
Sounds like they already knew it was defective if they have a repair ready to go this quick.

ETA–– There are(or were) two of these at one of my local shops for $310.
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:05:45 PM EST
didnt the sr9 do the same thing
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:06:03 PM EST
We want to remind gun users that, for maximum safety when carrying any pistol with a loaded magazine in place, the chamber should be empty, and the slide should be closed.


Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:06:42 PM EST
Originally Posted By Stove_Pipe:
We want to remind gun users that, for maximum safety when carrying any pistol with a loaded magazine in place, the chamber should be empty, and the slide should be closed.




Yeah, I'll get right on that.
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:08:11 PM EST
yeah i just dropped my glock on the floor to see, and im still alive so im not sure what to think!
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:08:35 PM EST
aww haha aww ruger's rip off of the P3AT recalled aww
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:08:35 PM EST
I saw this on GT. The LCP has been a dog since it was announced but people keep buying it because it looks pretty. Get a P3AT.
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:08:58 PM EST
Originally Posted By Stove_Pipe:
We want to remind gun users that, for maximum safety when carrying any pistol with a loaded magazine in place, the chamber should be empty, and the slide should be closed.




No kidding. Pretty much defeats the purpose of carrying it doesn't it?
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:09:01 PM EST
Originally Posted By EFB16ACRX:
didnt the sr9 do the same thing


Yep, there was a recall on the SR 9 also
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:09:28 PM EST
Originally Posted By Stove_Pipe:
We want to remind gun users that, for maximum safety when carrying any pistol with a loaded magazine in place, the chamber should be empty, and the slide should be closed.




They are even safer if you don't bother to buy one in the first place.

I'll stick with my Defender, Firestar or Agent thank you very much.

Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:09:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2008 5:09:59 PM EST by mjohn3006]
I guess they did not copy Kel-Tec quite well enough.
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:10:06 PM EST
Originally Posted By EFB16ACRX:
yeah i just dropped my glock on the floor to see, and im still alive so im not sure what to think!


Good thing it wasn't a G22.




I keed. I keed.

Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:10:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2008 7:48:25 PM EST by _DR]
Originally Posted By Avenger069:
Originally Posted By Stove_Pipe:
We want to remind gun users that, for maximum safety when carrying any pistol with a loaded magazine in place, the chamber should be empty, and the slide should be closed.




No kidding. Pretty much defeats the purpose of carrying it doesn't it?


Yeah if it can't carried safely in condition one, it's not CCW material.

Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:11:31 PM EST
hahahaha

...off to KTOG.org
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:13:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By PantherArms762:
Originally Posted By Stove_Pipe:
We want to remind gun users that, for maximum safety when carrying any pistol with a loaded magazine in place, the chamber should be empty, and the slide should be closed.




Yeah, I'll get right on that.


In their defense, it's true that there are fewer precautions you have to take to avoid a ND without one in the pipe.
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:13:42 PM EST
I can't believe they are telling you to carry their pistol unloaded. They don't even trust it. What a POS.
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:14:27 PM EST
Originally Posted By Stove_Pipe:

I'll stick with my Defender




+1
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:14:57 PM EST
Originally Posted By Stove_Pipe:
We want to remind gun users that, for maximum safety when carrying any pistol with a loaded magazine in place, the chamber should be empty, and the slide should be closed.




They're covering their own asses on liability. When some dude shoots his cock and tries to sue, all they're going to have to do is show the warning. "See, we told you not to do that. Too bad about your cock."
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:15:46 PM EST
Originally Posted By Mateba:
it looks pretty.


It does?
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:17:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By fxntime:
Originally Posted By Stove_Pipe:
We want to remind gun users that, for maximum safety when carrying any pistol with a loaded magazine in place, the chamber should be empty, and the slide should be closed.




They are even safer if you don't bother to buy one in the first place.

I'll stick with my Defender, Firestar or Agent thank you very much.



that empty chamber stuff is to keep the laywers at bay when dickheads start shooting themselves in the foot

when ruger gets these bugs worked out, the gun will be reliable

ruger makes very dependable stuff

Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:19:43 PM EST
Damn. I was considering one of these but isn't this the second 'send it back' type failure since they launched it?

Guess I'll stick with the s&w airweight even though I don't have a great ccw holster for it.
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:20:59 PM EST
My LCP has functioned just fine from the day I got it. Suck hard on that.
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:21:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2008 5:22:41 PM EST by ARinKCMO]
Tag. My LCP is a 370 series....darn my early adopter-ness!

I'll have to get it shipped off asap I guess....

When we do, we also will send you a FREE magazine with the new finger grip extension as a “thank you” for your patience and cooperation. We will make every effort to return your pistol within one week of receipt.


This is nice too. Shouldn't be gone long, and now I'll have 3 mags total for my gun. The finger extension will be nice, I gots big mitts...
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:21:05 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:22:44 PM EST
So it's not just a knockoff of a keltec, it's a bad knockoff.

I can't see myself ever owning a centerfire Ruger semi-auto.

In regard to the nitpicking about their safety blurb, it's literally true, which said, less than 'maximal safety' concerning the gun's mechanics can be acceptable when other safety concerns are aggregated, such as the ability to operate it one-handed in an emergency, etc.


Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:24:46 PM EST
Originally Posted By red65:
Originally Posted By fxntime:
Originally Posted By Stove_Pipe:
We want to remind gun users that, for maximum safety when carrying any pistol with a loaded magazine in place, the chamber should be empty, and the slide should be closed.




They are even safer if you don't bother to buy one in the first place.

I'll stick with my Defender, Firestar or Agent thank you very much.



that empty chamber stuff is to keep the laywers at bay when dickheads start shooting themselves in the foot

when ruger gets these bugs worked out, the gun will be reliable

ruger makes very dependable stuff



Yeah Yeah, it's flippin worthless as a CCW weapon if they recommend it remain unloaded for safeties sake.

Ruger has had their share of turds lately. This is their latest. I have several Rugers, none are from the past few years.

Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:25:36 PM EST
<––––––-This is my " I love Ruger, and I'm just oh so surprised" face.

Yeah, yeah I like my MKIII Target but still...
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:26:41 PM EST

God forbid they ever attempt to make an AR15!!!


Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:28:01 PM EST
Thank you for posting info.
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:34:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2008 5:35:43 PM EST by WHITE_WOLFE]
Originally Posted By junebug68:
My LCP has functioned just fine from the day I got it. Suck hard on that.



Same here and it doesnt look like it was made in a cave....by a cave man.


ETA: Thanks for the heads up John_Wayne777

Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:37:17 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:46:38 PM EST
Thanks for the info.
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:49:44 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:52:23 PM EST
Originally Posted By Mateba:
I saw this on GT. The LCP has been a dog since it was announced but people keep buying it because it looks pretty. Get a P3AT.


or a p11
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:55:56 PM EST
That's just great. Mine starts with 370... Guess it's heading back...
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:58:28 PM EST
Originally Posted By Patmos:
Thank you for posting info.

Thanks for the info. Geez, I only carry mine in condition 1 every damn day....this is surely a nice to know moment. Worked great so far....balls in tact and it shoots reliably.
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 5:59:10 PM EST
Isn't a recall on Ruger pistols a given? I don't hate them, have some but thinking back off the top of my head......


Blackhawk
P85
SR9

and now, LCP



Link Posted: 10/29/2008 6:09:16 PM EST
Im not planning on dropping a loaded gun on a hard surface. I may send mine in just to get the free mag though.
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 6:16:48 PM EST
Makes me glad I decided to go with the P3AT...

Link Posted: 10/29/2008 6:44:25 PM EST
Originally Posted By Gravity_Tester:
Makes me glad I decided to go with the P3AT...

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k84/Gravity_Tester/gun%20pics/P1010039.jpg



Since the Ruger is a copy I'll bet the P3AT has the exact same issue. Just ruger is going to make changes to the desing to make it drop safe.
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 7:19:05 PM EST
snubbie wins again... i looked at one for about a minute, and decided on a S&W 442... good move.
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 7:56:03 PM EST
What is all the hype with the LCP? Isn't it just a P3AT clone? This gun is nothing revolutionary.
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 8:00:30 PM EST
I wonder what the other improvements are? Anyone have any details????

Link Posted: 10/29/2008 8:07:40 PM EST
To enhance and protect our strong liquidity in reaction to the recent turmoil in the financial markets, in late October we drew down $1 million from our $25 million credit facility to ensure our access to it, and moved approximately $16 million from money market funds investing in Treasury Bills to direct investments in Treasury Bills.
–– The Company has completed its share repurchase announced in April 2008. Under a 10b5-1 program that expired on October 17, the Company repurchased a total of 1.5 million shares of its common stock for $9.9 million in the open market, representing 7.2% of the outstanding shares, at an average price per share of $6.59. At the completion of this program and before drawing on the credit line, cash and equivalents were approximately $20 million and there were 19.1 million shares outstanding.
–– Recently, the Company received a small number of reports from the field that its LCP pistols can discharge if dropped onto a hard surface. Although no injuries were reported, the Company recalled all LCP pistols in October 2008 to offer free safety upgrades. The estimated cost of this retrofit program of approximately $2.3 million was recorded in the third quarter of 2008 and had the impact of reducing earnings per share by $0.07 in the quarter. This safety upgrade program is expected to be in effect for several years.
About Sturm, Ruger
Sturm, Ruger was founded in 1949 and is one of the nation's leading manufacturers of high-quality firearms for the commercial sporting market. Sturm, Ruger is headquartered in Southport, CT, with manufacturing facilities located in Newport, NH and Prescott, AZ.


From their press release... Sorry for posting most of it, flame me if you must.

Does this mean ALL? or just the ones with 370 in the serial.
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 8:14:30 PM EST
$2.3 Million dollar recall!!!
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 8:45:25 PM EST
Ruger has had their share of turds lately. This is their latest. I have several Rugers, none are from the past few years.


True enough but at least their quality control has gone down a lot too.


A friend dumped a Super Blackhawk recently cause it wasn't accurate. The bores in the cylinder were smaller than the barrel bore and swaged the bullets down so they wouldn't properly engage the rifling. (not an uncommon problem)
Link Posted: 10/29/2008 11:16:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2008 11:17:35 PM EST by Bob1984]
Originally Posted By BaxterStockman:
Originally Posted By PantherArms762:
Originally Posted By Stove_Pipe:
We want to remind gun users that, for maximum safety when carrying any pistol with a loaded magazine in place, the chamber should be empty, and the slide should be closed.




Yeah, I'll get right on that.


In their defense, it's true that there are fewer precautions you have to take to avoid a ND without one in the pipe.


Yep, which mostly applies to long guns and old firearms which may not have the additional safety features (like firing pin blocks) that modern pistols do.

I do think that any modern handgun should be safe to carry chambered. By design, most modern pistols were intended to be kept chambered.

Pistols that aren't safe to keep chambered either are not fit for defensive use, or the design needs to be brought up to date.

After all, how many police officers carry their service sidearms, like the SIG or the Glock, without a round chambered ?

If chambered carry in handguns were a problem, police departments would have had something to say about it.

ND's are just about always the result of user error rather than an actual weapon failure.

"It just went off !" is one of the worst excuses I've ever heard for ND's.
Link Posted: 10/30/2008 3:02:12 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/30/2008 3:05:55 AM EST
Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:
It would be bloody wonderful if Ruger would put up the stinking photo of the diamond mark and its location already....

LOL....put my Sherlock Holmes hat on last night with my tactical magnifying glass. Couldn't see a GD thing. I requested the return shipping info just in case mine needs returning. I received it in April, so I'm pretty sure it's a 'first run" model.
Link Posted: 10/30/2008 3:53:26 AM EST
Wow, we almost bought one for my wife to carry.
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