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Posted: 9/6/2004 8:07:56 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 8:09:04 AM EST
Leather is cool...helmets aren't


SGatr15
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 8:13:02 AM EST
I always wear a helmet...and armored jacket, pants,gloves, and riding boots. None of it is leather.

Helmets just aren't cool, most peole would rather be cool than safe I guess.
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 8:13:51 AM EST
What's even more weird is the squids on japbikes who have on a $$$$$ helmet while wearing shorts, t shirt & flip flop sandals....
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 8:21:17 AM EST
http://www.consumptionjunction.com/content/detail.asp?ID=37854&type=1&page=1&fav=0

this link explains exactly why you *should* wear all that hot, uncomfortable crap in the summertime in texas.

i'll bet her elbows are down to the bone, and i bet she doesn't ride again for a long time.

Link Posted: 9/6/2004 8:26:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By RiffRandall:
What's even more weird is the squids on japbikes who have on a $$$$$ helmet while wearing shorts, t shirt & flip flop sandals....hr


+1

Harley Fucking Davidson Rules...........

(not that I'm trying to get anything stirred up, here)
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 8:30:18 AM EST
biker babes like the smell of Leather
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 8:34:05 AM EST
Some refuse to wear a helmet simply because they have the right not to. Once I had the right not to wear, and occasionally I did not. Now I wear full leathers and a helmet because the helmet is mandatory. I preferred wearing the helmet when I didn't have to.
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 8:34:10 AM EST
I always have a Giro helmet on when out on my bikes. The lycra and spandex though do not offer much protection for me from roadrash. I have the scars to prove it. The only leather I wear is in my Sidi shoes. I guess some guys (CampyBob) still wear shorts with leather chamis in them but most are synthetic now.
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 8:55:03 AM EST
Most Harley riders are idiots.

They’ve made me seriously consider trading in my Superglide on a BMW as not to be associated with their crowd.
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 9:00:29 AM EST
Gee, Doorgunner, been seeing a lot of the RUBs lately?

You know, the ones who look like they're perched on the bike, rather than part of it,
Wearing either the most expensive full leathers with the price tag still on them, or a polo shirt and khaki pants,
and have a year's salary worth of chrome but no tools (other than a cell phone)...
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 9:04:32 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 9:08:41 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 9:21:06 AM EST
Must have been that cheesy "Then Came Bronson" shit.
I crashed at over 120 mph wearing full roadrace leathers and went down the road for ovr 50 yards.
My leathers got scuffed up, no road rash for me.


Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
When i was a paramedic i worked LOTS of bike MVA's. Over 45-50mph that leather wore straight through the skin most of the time. I am SURE it did lessen the road rash but not that much.
mike

Link Posted: 9/6/2004 9:44:30 AM EST
OK, you asked. Nornally I don't preach because personal freedom allows you to wear whatever makes you happy, but here is what the students in my MSF class hear when they ask the same question.

"Imagine if you will, two motorcycle riders traveling down the road at 70 miles per hour. A typical speed for many freeways and open country roads.

One rider is wearing leather chaps (no ass protection), a leather vest, gloves with the fingers cut off, and a doo rag.

The other rider is wearing full protection including a full face helmet.

The both go down. You pick the cause. There are endless possibilities that could cause a rider to go down. Now, keep in mind that when you slide, you are either face up sliding on your ass and back, or face down sliding on your chin, hands, crotch, and knees.

At 70 miles an hour denim tuns to dust in a couple of seconds. Your slide will go on for several seconds. During that several seconds after the denim on rider number one's ass is gone, he is sliding on his bare ass and shoulder blades and also the back of his head if he can not hold it off the pavement. If he is sliding face down the skin on his chin is gone real quick, also his fingers, and crotch.

Rider number two, if he is lucky and does not hit something while he is sliding, can slide either face up or face down and will eventually stop sliding. When the shakes stop he can get out his cell phone, call a tow truck and his insurance company and start the painful precess of buying another bike.

Rider number one is being loaded into an ambulance and after arriving at a hospital can start the painful process of skin grafting and reconstructive surgery. His bike is the least of his problems at this point. "

It's your ass. Wear whatever makes you happy.
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 9:51:36 AM EST
For all of the idiots who think they don't need a helmet because they don't ride fast, take a look at this picture. This is a pic of my brother after returning from the ER. He was riding his 37cc pocket bike when a brake line got caught up and he did an endo. He wasn't travelling at more than 15mph. He received 9 stitches in his forehead and some nice roadrash. I do support the individual right not to wear a helmet but I think one would be stupid to do so.
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 10:13:04 AM EST
I raced dirt bikes for many years. I can't count the number of times I hit a low hanging branch, then thought"that woud have hurt". I also know several racers who woke up on the ground from some of those low branches.
I now ride road bicycles. I crashed once this year ( yup, in the aero-bars) doing about 15 mph.
I slid fifteen feet, cracked my Giro helmet and got road rash through my jersey that didn't tear.
I have seen countless accidents with my riding friends that were glad they wear a bicycle helmet.
But the real joke is these Harley guys riding these turtle shell helmets that don't pass any standard from any safety organization. WTF

Link Posted: 9/6/2004 10:24:13 AM EST
leather can save your ass, not just at slow speeds, all road racers, japs mostly, wear leather racing suits. ever seen a road race on espn and seen the rider fall at 70_mph and walk away without a scratch?
most of the "harley riders" now just wear it because they wanna look like a biker and have no idea why they wear em.


it absorbs all the abrasions that your skin will get if not wearing any. been there done that. i can and have thrown out chaps that got shredded, whould rather spend a hundred and fifty bucks on a new pair than have road rash.

but then again if i have to explain it you wouldn't understand


why do you wear shooting glasses and eye protection??
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 5:02:11 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 5:05:59 PM EST
Everything I wear is functional and for a purpose. I also wear a helmet.
Link Posted: 9/6/2004 5:11:17 PM EST
I was in a low-speed bike accident about 12 years ago. Hit the ground with my head so hard I saw God. Man, did that hurt. Actually broke my helmet.

If I hadn't had the helmet on, I'd have broken my skull.

Personally, I think that those who don't wear helmets are foolish.

That said, I support their right not to wear one, as long as they don't expect Medicaid if they end up
disabled.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 1:57:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By David_Hineline:
I am not asking why they wear leathers, I am asking why they fear road rash but not a damaged brain stem.




for some, its the "rebel" in them, some for the same reason they don't wear seatbelts. for me its the freedom of the open road, the wind thru my hair ,like riding a horse only doing it at speed.i never wear a helmet unless in a state that requires it, but when my kids were little and rode on the back i always made them wear theirs.

lived in florida for a couple of years where they had a helmet law, try wearing a helemt in the summer with that heat, sun and humidity. they got rid of the helmet law a month before i moved back to chicago area.

beasiclly its a freedom of choice, choose to be daring and buck the establishment, after all the yuppies are riding harleys and dressing in the garb of a biker to try and feel like thay are outlaws and rebels, trade in your suit and tie for leather and a steel horse, ride to the starbucks and look cool
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 12:55:55 PM EST
GOOD PICS OF WHY ALL MOTORCYCLE RIDES SHOULD WEAR LEATHER, THIS IS ROAD RASH\


ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=271725
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 1:11:56 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 1:12:55 PM EST
Was'nt this all gone over a few weeks ago??................Seems like I remember a thread along the same lines...............then the name calling strated and all us "Choice" people became "Idiots" and all the "Have to" crowd became "Helmet Nazi's"...................or was it a nightmare??
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 1:13:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/7/2004 1:15:42 PM EST by 45acpfan]
Doorgunner...

Still think it's the Harley riders that are idiots

http://www.sportsbikerider.com/user...15_Untitled.mpg

Edit: Sorry..I didn't see this video has been posted already..nevermind
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 1:28:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/7/2004 1:34:09 PM EST by MisterSuzuki]
Actually....not sure if this relates to other guys, but I get thirsty much faster, when I ride in the heat, with just a gloves, shirt & shorts (I don't do that anymore), than with a leather jacket, boots, etc.

I don't know why that is.....any doctors in the house?

I'm guessing the dry heat wicks away/dries your sweat much faster, than sweating it out in leathers, and slowly losing sweat....or ????

That's just me, of course........

PS When you're thirsty from riding.....that's a good sign that you should have been drinking more water to begin with.

Ice filled Camelbaks w/Gatorade sure hit the spot!!
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 1:40:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By David_Hineline:
Can you explain to me why Bikers would wear jack boots, leather chaps, heavy leather jackets and gloves in the hottest of weather, all I suppose to protect against road rash, but refuse and get insulted to wear a helmet for head protection? Is it because the asset is not valuable to warrant protection?



I would operate that way in local traffic because when riding about town I find that a helmet reduces my hearing to almost zero and reduces my peripheral vision significantly as well.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 1:53:51 PM EST
Wow.....

You'd probably never want to ride the way I do......I'm always wearing full leathers, or drag jeans (padded 4 bikers), AND EARPLUGS, with a full face helmet.

At least for me, a Fullface does not permit some peripheral vision........but I turn my head side to side, quite often. I"d be afraid to ride.....just by looking straight (like most ppl in cars) and solely depend on peripheral vision. That's not very safe....IMHO.


To each his/her own......2 bad accident was enough for me, but I'm still around, and aside from bruises, I'm still kicking! Both times, I thank my full gear/helmet, gloves, boots, and foresight in looking in all directions.....even towards my back........damn drunks!

Murphy at its best (worst) for some!



Originally Posted By legalese77:

Originally Posted By David_Hineline:
Can you explain to me why Bikers would wear jack boots, leather chaps, heavy leather jackets and gloves in the hottest of weather, all I suppose to protect against road rash, but refuse and get insulted to wear a helmet for head protection? Is it because the asset is not valuable to warrant protection?



I would operate that way in local traffic because when riding about town I find that a helmet reduces my hearing to almost zero and reduces my peripheral vision significantly as well.

Link Posted: 9/7/2004 2:15:21 PM EST
+1 on the BMW Bike with helmet and protective gear.

MT
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 2:39:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/7/2004 2:46:12 PM EST by BallisticTip]
Lets all just ride the way we want, and who gives a fuck about what the other guy wants to do ! Just like how every one else worries about what type of gun we shoot and is it safe, worry about your own life and I will worry about mine
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 3:21:00 PM EST
Ballistictip got it right.............."Lets all just ride the way we want, and who gives a fuck about what the other guy wants to do ! Just like how every one else worries about what type of gun we shoot and is it safe, worry about your own life and I will worry about mine".............Amen Bro!!
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 3:22:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By BallisticTip:
Lets all just ride the way we want, and who gives a fuck about what the other guy wants to do ! Just like how every one else worries about what type of gun we shoot and is it safe, worry about your own life and I will worry about mine



... Wow thanks, just saved me a bit of typing
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 3:28:24 PM EST
Bikers...

...we're NOT talking about the Harvard graduates crowd here....

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