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4/29/2006 6:16:41 PM EDT
i keep seeing guys posting about "i have 10K+ rounds of .22 ammo on hand.

My question is why? I know "because i can" is a valid answer but will you actually shoot that much? Every year i have some people hand me 2-3 bricks of 22 they have had for 5+ years. almost all of it fails to fire or is corroded to the point it won't chamber.

do you guys actually shoot that much 22 ammo to stock it like that?

4/29/2006 6:19:52 PM EDT
[#1]
I do not keep that much but have had 4 or 5 thousand rounds of .22lr at once.  I do not shoot it all that much, but it has never corroded or failed to fire at all.  I have shot .22 ammo that I had had for 15 years and it all goes bang.
4/29/2006 6:27:33 PM EDT
[#2]
Bought 15000 rounds from CMP a few years back. Remingtin green/ yellow  boxed  was like $6.50 a brick! Just bought another 5k of PMC cause it was $79. I just can't pass up a good deal. I do shoot up about 3k+ per year.
4/29/2006 6:28:44 PM EDT
[#3]
if i had to pic one kind of ammo that will never dry up i'd bet .22.  no need to stockpile it
4/29/2006 6:31:59 PM EDT
[#4]
Becuase you can CRANK through .22LR
take two or three people shooting and that's 3 bricks in a couple hours no problem.
But that's 1500 rounds.
Buy it cheap, stack it deep  
4/29/2006 6:49:11 PM EDT
[#5]
It's a common, inexpensive caliber..  There are a lot of firearms in .22 caliber and many uses for those firearms, ranging from emergency self-defense to target shooting and small game hunting/pest control.  

Emergency self-defense as in if that's all you have available, it will do the job. One would be remiss in choosing .22 specifically for self-defense.  

.22 is one of the most useful calibers available and probably the best to have with you in any wilderness survival/SHTF situation that doesn't involve combat.  

The usefulness and price factors alone justify having a lot of it on hand.  
4/29/2006 6:51:21 PM EDT
[#6]
I'm waiting for a Quad Mount Kit for 10/22's
4/29/2006 6:53:08 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
I'm waiting for a Quad Mount Kit for 10/22's



LOLOLOL.  IIRC, there are kits available to make a 10/22 look like a MG42.  The design of the 10/22 is loosely based off of the M1 Carbine, so I'm sure if someone wanted to, a 10/22 could be made to look and feel like a M1 Carbine (would be a nice little trunk gun with the M1A1 folding stock).  
4/29/2006 6:53:27 PM EDT
[#8]
Norrell 10/22, , MP5 .22 kit, and Kuehl 22 upper for M16 now. Tactical Innovations M16/AM180 upper on order. Yup
4/29/2006 7:06:41 PM EDT
[#9]
My wife burned through at least 6 bricks of .22LR last year alone.
To keep her interested, I never want her to ever feel like there
is less than an endless supply of it.
So when I find a deal, I stock up.

4/29/2006 7:23:43 PM EDT
[#10]
Just bought 2500 rounds of CCI Stinger.  
4/29/2006 7:27:45 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Bought 15000 rounds from CMP a few years back. Remingtin green/ yellow  boxed  was like $6.50 a brick! Just bought another 5k of PMC cause it was $79. I just can't pass up a good deal. I do shoot up about 3k+ per year.



Was it Sidewinder?

That was the worst stuff ever.  It turned my 10/22 into a jam-o-matic.  I have about 1500 rounds of it left now.  The only thing that will eat it is my Winchester 68 or 67 and that is a lot of shooting for a single shot.
4/29/2006 7:55:27 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
i keep seeing guys posting about "i have 10K+ rounds of .22 ammo on hand.
My question is why? ...




FWIW/IMNSHO:

1. Cheap
2. Fun to shoot/plink with
3. Can be used for hunting and self-defense
4. Can be reasonably easily suppressed (ALL NFA RULES APPLY)
5. Cannot be reloaded
6. Common caliber
7. Can be used for trade fodder  

(10k+ IS a bit, though...)

HKO
4/29/2006 8:02:09 PM EDT
[#13]
1. Cheap, cheap, cheap.

2. Bumpfire device.
4/29/2006 8:36:02 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Bought 15000 rounds from CMP a few years back. Remingtin green/ yellow  boxed  was like $6.50 a brick! Just bought another 5k of PMC cause it was $79. I just can't pass up a good deal. I do shoot up about 3k+ per year.



Was it Sidewinder?

That was the worst stuff ever.  It turned my 10/22 into a jam-o-matic.  I have about 1500 rounds of it left now.  The only thing that will eat it is my Winchester 68 or 67 and that is a lot of shooting for a single shot.



Maybe it was your gun? It runs fine in my Weatherby semiauto and a buddies 10/22.  Will have to try it in my FA Tippman 1919, it's finicky.
4/29/2006 9:23:15 PM EDT
[#15]
When the liberals ban ammo sales you will be ahppy you stockpiled 10k .22LR.
4/29/2006 9:26:46 PM EDT
[#16]
You wouldn't believe how much I just sit and bumpfire my 10/22.  I need to find a 100 round mag for it.
4/29/2006 11:13:29 PM EDT
[#17]
I don't stockpile rimfire ammo.  The accuracy degrades over time.   Of course, if you're bumpfiring it all away accruacy isn't your main concern.
4/29/2006 11:23:03 PM EDT
[#18]
as soon as i get my vector 22 conversion in for my Uzi. yeah Ill be shooting that much.

currently thu I only keep 2 bricks of 22 on hand.

4/29/2006 11:29:17 PM EDT
[#19]
Youd be surprised how much 22LR you go through once you have a few good weapons systems set up. Squirrel gun, benchrest gun, silhouette gun, backpack gun, plinker, pocket pistol etc.

Dave
4/29/2006 11:30:16 PM EDT
[#20]
I have 1000rds of CCI Mini-mags laying around, and I don't even have a .22 anymore.
4/30/2006 3:01:37 PM EDT
[#21]
i have several .22's. and i go through about 1500 a year with them. I just can't imagin stocking that much 22 when it's so easy to get and cheap. i do stock centerfire ammo in bulk when i find a good price, but 22 is ALWAYS dirt cheap.
4/30/2006 3:07:58 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
Youd be surprised how much 22LR you go through once you have a few good weapons systems set up. Squirrel gun, benchrest gun, silhouette gun, backpack gun, plinker, pocket pistol etc.

Dave

What type of benchrest gun would you recommend?  I was think about getting a nice scoped .22LR for a bench rest gun to practice trigger control and stuff (308 is getting expensive for practice).  Do they make bolt action?
4/30/2006 3:12:09 PM EDT
[#23]
the CMP has some DAMN nice single shot kimber bolt guns already setup for benchrest style shooting.
4/30/2006 3:15:25 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
the CMP has some DAMN nice single shot kimber bolt guns already setup for benchrest style shooting.

Wow, $600 is a lot of money for a .22.  Plus, it seems as if I'd have to get some smithing done to get a rail on that thing
4/30/2006 3:18:14 PM EDT
[#25]
Corroded .22 LR?  I have fired .22 LR that is over 40 years old with no problems.  Only slightly tarnished, chambered easily and fired 100%.

My uncle's stash.  Stored indoors.
4/30/2006 3:23:28 PM EDT
[#26]
I shoot CCI Green Tag, and that stuff aint cheap......but it is sooooooooo silent when used with my SWR Warlock.....
4/30/2006 3:30:22 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
Just bought 2500 rounds of CCI Stinger.  



AHHH MAN. All i can ever find it is in 50 rd. boxes.

I love CCI Stinger. I found though that when my gun gets dirty (usually after 150 rds) they start to not feed so well, while the federal box of 550 feed fine.

To anyone who hasnt, compare brass from a CCI Stinger to the brass of your avg box of 550rds.

And during the summer ill shoot around 1100 rds of 22lr per weekend. I figured i ahve a total of 25000 rds through my 22 by now.


PJ
4/30/2006 3:39:23 PM EDT
[#28]
I don't know for sure but I probably shoot up 8-10K a summer.  I've burned up 3 bricks in the last 4 weekends already.  As stated above,  it is a widely poplular round and it does make an excellent choice for practice.
4/30/2006 3:47:22 PM EDT
[#29]
I keep a couple of k around. Shoot 2-3k a year. But in the past year I've run more 9mm through my AR than I have shot 22 lr through my 10/22.
4/30/2006 4:03:48 PM EDT
[#30]



Going through 10,000 rounds of .22 in a year isn't hard if you have the right equipment.  Hell, I'm averaging more than that in .223 now.  At any given moment I have around 3-4k in .22, sometimes more if there's a sale somewhere.
4/30/2006 4:38:52 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
i keep seeing guys posting about "i have 10K+ rounds of .22 ammo on hand.

My question is why? I know "because i can" is a valid answer but will you actually shoot that much? Every year i have some people hand me 2-3 bricks of 22 they have had for 5+ years. almost all of it fails to fire or is corroded to the point it won't chamber.

do you guys actually shoot that much 22 ammo to stock it like that?




I don't know what kind of ammo you have that crapped out in just 5 years. I have about 6000 rounds left of Russian .22lr ammo made by the Klimovsk Plant simply labeled "Sport-Hunting JUNIOR" brand. The best I can tell this ammo is a minimum of 20 years old. I got them from my stepdad that had got them from someone else 20 years ago. He gave me 8000+ rounds and I have shot about 2000 rounds with only one failure to fire. That is good even for new Winchester .22lr ammo. I keep it in an ammo can, but my stepdad had it in his basement (a damp one) in an old gym bag.

I have about 13k rounds of 22lr on hand, I doubt I will ever see it go bad.
4/30/2006 4:52:19 PM EDT
[#32]
I have scads stored up. As long as it's kept dry I've never seen a problem with it not working. Maybe it'll degrade a bit in accuracy but I seriously doubt I'll miss 1/4 at 50 yards anyways. I've shot 30 year old stuff and the failure rate, [1 or 2 per 100-150, most pop off on second try so it's usually just a bare primer spot] is about the same as new ammo.

The oldest .22 stuff I was about 40 years old. I was surprised every one went off normally and I did not even get those ocassional "piffs" I get with some of the cheapie new stuff.  BTW I've been shooting some old western super X stuff and it's been perfectly fine, lot number is 6327. Works great in my ROmanian .22 bolt training rifle.

.22s gone up also in case you have not noticed, and one of the companies shrunk the box in quantity.
4/30/2006 5:02:38 PM EDT
[#33]
My dad and I just shot up some old dark blue box Federal Lightnings dated 1989 (purchase date). They fired fine and had no corrosion on them. I stock up because I shoot probably 1-2k per year,because they're cheap and very compact to store. We have cheap .22s available now. As Wolf 7.62x39 availability teaches us,that might not always be the case.
4/30/2006 5:05:28 PM EDT
[#34]
It corrodes because it was IMPROPERLY stored.  If you stored it in a sealed container with a pack of desicant, and don't open it, it won't go bad.  storing it in a hot/humid/etc environment will make it go bad, not having it for a long period of time.
4/30/2006 5:07:53 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
Corroded .22 LR?  I have fired .22 LR that is over 40 years old with no problems.  Only slightly tarnished, chambered easily and fired 100%.

My uncle's stash.  Stored indoors.



+1 When i was poor in HS  I shot up 1k of 60+ year old scary old peters that i sure was uber corrosive  22 ammo that bought at a garage sale for $5  stuff worked great

I keep about 5 brick most times though

I like the Rem golden bullet stuff
4/30/2006 10:12:29 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Youd be surprised how much 22LR you go through once you have a few good weapons systems set up. Squirrel gun, benchrest gun, silhouette gun, backpack gun, plinker, pocket pistol etc.

Dave

What type of benchrest gun would you recommend?  I was think about getting a nice scoped .22LR for a bench rest gun to practice trigger control and stuff (308 is getting expensive for practice).  Do they make bolt action?



Depends on how much work you want to do on the gun yourself.... As was mentioned, the CMP sells some good guns, as does Sako, Kimber, Remington etc. It's a question of your budget and mechanical ability-personally I don't see the wisdom in buying a $900 rimfire with a good trigger, barrel etc. when a gun a third the price can often be made to do the same or better with trigger job and head recess being set to .042".

For iron sighted .22 benchrest shooting, you can't go wrong with one of the CMP Kimbers. I don't own one, but have shot a handfull (some with period correct sights!) and they all did well. For a bolt gun, some guys like the Sako FinnFire. To do it on the cheap, get a CZ!

Hope that helps.

Dave
4/30/2006 10:30:02 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Just bought 2500 rounds of CCI Stinger.  



AHHH MAN. All i can ever find it is in 50 rd. boxes.

I love CCI Stinger. I found though that when my gun gets dirty (usually after 150 rds) they start to not feed so well, while the federal box of 550 feed fine.

To anyone who hasnt, compare brass from a CCI Stinger to the brass of your avg box of 550rds.

And during the summer ill shoot around 1100 rds of 22lr per weekend. I figured i ahve a total of 25000 rds through my 22 by now.


PJ




Does your rifle still shoot accurately after eating that many rounds of ammo?
Can someone tell us the life expectancy of a .22LR barrel and how do you guys clean the bore to get rid of the lead deposit?

Thanks.
5/1/2006 1:14:26 AM EDT
[#38]
I go through at least a brick a trip just in my P 22 every time I go to the range . If I ever pony up for a 22 upper it will be even worse .
5/1/2006 2:46:33 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Just bought 2500 rounds of CCI Stinger.  



AHHH MAN. All i can ever find it is in 50 rd. boxes.

I love CCI Stinger. I found though that when my gun gets dirty (usually after 150 rds) they start to not feed so well, while the federal box of 550 feed fine.

To anyone who hasnt, compare brass from a CCI Stinger to the brass of your avg box of 550rds.

And during the summer ill shoot around 1100 rds of 22lr per weekend. I figured i ahve a total of 25000 rds through my 22 by now.


PJ




Does your rifle still shoot accurately after eating that many rounds of ammo?
Can someone tell us the life expectancy of a .22LR barrel and how do you guys clean the bore to get rid of the lead deposit?

Thanks.




At shorter ranges (less than 75 feet) accuracey is fine. Using a solid rest the grouping looks like a solid hole the size of a dime. When i get out to ranges of roughly 50-60meters groupings open up alot , and this is using a solid rest too.

To clean the bore i just use a wire bore brush, some small patches and a little nitro solvent. Its worked fine for me.


PJ
5/1/2006 4:29:30 AM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:
i keep seeing guys posting about "i have 10K+ rounds of .22 ammo on hand.

My question is why?



One other reason, not yet mentioned,  is that when you find a lot that works well in your gun, you buy as much of that lot as possible. Sad thing about rimfire is that you can't reload, so you're stuck looking for that brand and lot of ammo that works best in your gun.
5/1/2006 4:48:03 AM EDT
[#41]
I've bought 10,000(2 cases of 5,000) when it was on sale at a local gunstore.  No problem going bang.




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