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7/13/2014 8:10:54 AM EDT
I've seen videos where they act peaceful,and say the religion is 100% about peace and getting along ect...They say they don't condone violence and it's NOT in their quran.Also on the flip side I've seen quite the opposite where they say all the killing IS indeed what needs to be done and what they're supposed to do.Is there more than one version of their bible or something?Just wondering how one religion can have such polar opposites in it's belief system???
7/13/2014 8:11:50 AM EDT
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They could be liars.
7/13/2014 8:12:09 AM EDT
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Flip side of the same coin... What do they want you to believe today?
7/13/2014 8:12:10 AM EDT
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What side?
7/13/2014 8:12:33 AM EDT
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I've seen videos where they act peaceful,and say the religion is 100% about peace and getting along ect...They say they don't condone violence and it's NOT in their quran.Also on the flip side I've seen quite the opposite where they say all the killing IS indeed what needs to be done and what they're supposed to do.Is there more than one version of their bible or something?Just wondering how one religion can have such polar opposites in it's belief system???
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The religion itself is designed to support a theocracy.  A total life-encompassing thing which needs to be destroyed.
7/13/2014 8:14:03 AM EDT
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Just like Pitbulls; depends on how they're raised.




































 
7/13/2014 8:15:06 AM EDT
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7/13/2014 8:20:09 AM EDT
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Muslims must see the same inconsistencies that you do and yet they remain Muslim. They could be good people, but when I look around at what's going on I will never trust them. How would one ever know when a particular follower might decide it's time to go all jihad?  
7/13/2014 8:23:21 AM EDT
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A Muslim who sticks to the Quran can wage Jihad, but should only target men.  Women and children are not supposed to be a part of their war.  I think that's how it goes, whatever I had to learn in some bullshit class.  They obviously don't follow that, then again there are plenty of Christians who kill when our bible says thou shall not, but that's how the world goes.  I do find it interesting though that Muslims can kill men in a holy war and it's 100% a-ok.
7/13/2014 8:26:38 AM EDT
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Thanks,this answered some questions.
7/13/2014 8:26:45 AM EDT
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7/13/2014 8:28:16 AM EDT
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A Muslim who sticks to the Quran can wage Jihad, but should only target men.  Women and children are not supposed to be a part of their war.  I think that's how it goes, whatever I had to learn in some bullshit class.  They obviously don't follow that, then again there are plenty of Christians who kill when our bible says thou shall not, but that's how the world goes.  I do find it interesting though that Muslims can kill men in a holy war and it's 100% a-ok.
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But those people generally aren't doing it in the name of their religion.


7/13/2014 8:34:41 AM EDT
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For Muslims there is no penalty for lying to Infidels. It is in the Koran.
7/13/2014 8:42:51 AM EDT
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It is a very educational video

I really don't understand the "differences" between Muslims myself, I imagine they vary in their willingness to act out their religion just like any group of people vary in their desire and willingness to carry out any ideological system.


7/13/2014 8:43:20 AM EDT
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Sometimes painting with a broad brush is called for....
7/13/2014 8:56:06 AM EDT
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The act of being peaceful and denouncing ones faith and other Muslims is permitted by Taqiyya, when it is used for jihad. Makes you wonder about all those "peaceful" Muslims...
7/13/2014 9:03:07 AM EDT
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A Muslim who sticks to the Quran can wage Jihad, but should only target men.  Women and children are not supposed to be a part of their war.  I think that's how it goes, whatever I had to learn in some bullshit class.  They obviously don't follow that, then again there are plenty of Christians who kill when our bible says thou shall not, but that's how the world goes.  I do find it interesting though that Muslims can kill men in a holy war and it's 100% a-ok.
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That's because the women are to be raped and or "married" and the children enslaved. There is no noble motivation behind it. Mohammed and his followers frequently killed the men and raped/enslaved the women.
They didn't call it rape. They "took as wives" the newly widowed women. Who of course, were happy about it.

If a Muslim is truly following Islam then he is obligated to wage war against non-believers.
7/13/2014 9:05:09 AM EDT
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Jesus said : "You shall know them by their fruits (deeds-actions). Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"
Matthew 7:16
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7/13/2014 9:07:08 AM EDT
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Moslem, it's moslem.  It was moslem when I was a kid and so it must be moslem today.



7/13/2014 9:07:18 AM EDT
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This pretty much sums it up

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1643885_Anal_Jihad_is_a_go_.html
7/13/2014 9:08:13 AM EDT
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James 2:18
But someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds." Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds.
7/13/2014 9:09:25 AM EDT
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I think there are a couple of factors.  The first is whether they are moderate or strong in their religion.  Moderates can see the world for what it is and don't strap bombs on their children.  Devout Muslims listen to the Koran and want to kill all of the infidels because that is exactly what is written that Mohammed said.  



Then there is the fact that a lot of terrorism has nothing to do with being Islamic.  Much of it is based on socio-economic factors and Islam just happens to be the excuse that is used to further motivate these young folks who live in fucking cesspool armpits of the world to act and do the bidding of their masters who are trying to make a name for themselves.




Either way, I'm not generally a person who discriminates but I don't trust Islam.  I don't have tolerance for a religion that preaches to kill everyone who is different, beat and suppress women, and put everyone under a massively oppressive sharia law.  






7/13/2014 9:11:14 AM EDT
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Great video. I'm not a scholar or researcher of Islam and I don't believe I've ever seen a Qur'an in person, let alone read it. However, I was aware of the points made in the video and am aware of the threat to the free world, as a result of westerners and infidels attempts to be friends, non-bigoted and to get along.

I knew this because I deem it important enough to pay attention to. The information is out there, easy to find, for those who give a shit.

Sadly, most people are more concerned with LeBron, Johnny Football, Kim and Kanye, or some other bullshit. Ignorant, stupid, lazy people will be the death of us all.
7/13/2014 9:13:47 AM EDT
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I mean it's not like anyone could possibly read the same book and come up with different interpretations right?
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Yeah, their interpretations are a choice between bad and worse.
7/13/2014 9:15:57 AM EDT
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"Taqiyya"
Muslims may lie only in three situations:
to remove enmity between two former friends, during war to mislead enemies, to one's wife/husband as compliment and/or get in more touch emotionally or during practicing sex. As per Answers....


covers a lot of bases.....
7/13/2014 9:20:55 AM EDT
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It's called Taqiyya - lies or denunciations of their faith to protect Islam.
7/13/2014 9:21:25 AM EDT
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You misspelled teryaki.
7/13/2014 9:23:04 AM EDT
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The peaceful ones won't hold the violent ones in contempt. They will only make excuses for them.
7/13/2014 9:25:32 AM EDT
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Even the "peaceful" ones hate us more than they dislike their retarded, violent fellow muslims.
7/13/2014 9:38:32 AM EDT
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Even the "peaceful" ones hate us more than they dislike their retarded, violent fellow muslims.


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7/13/2014 9:44:31 AM EDT
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Self interested liars.  Very human, that.

On a side note, it is a trifle quaint how we are honestly surprised when people behave inconsistently, and are dishonest about their activities & goals.

They probably suffer from cognitive dissonance a lot; "religion of peace," and "kill/terrorize the infidels".

Q:   Do you suffer from cognitive dissonance?
A:    "No", we enjoy every minute of it.



7/13/2014 9:45:58 AM EDT
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Even the "peaceful" ones hate us more than they dislike their retarded, violent fellow muslims.


Damn, my friends must be doing it wrong. I'll have to poke them in the eye or something to get them into a proper religious hatred of me.
7/13/2014 9:51:12 AM EDT
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Damn, my friends must be doing it wrong. I'll have to poke them in the eye or something to get them into a proper religious hatred of me.
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Even the "peaceful" ones hate us more than they dislike their retarded, violent fellow muslims.


Damn, my friends must be doing it wrong. I'll have to poke them in the eye or something to get them into a proper religious hatred of me.


I'm sure they are very nice people. It's easy for them to be so in this land of freedom and tolerance that Judeo-Christian values has created.
7/13/2014 9:52:36 AM EDT
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FPNI .
7/13/2014 9:54:01 AM EDT
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Even the "peaceful" ones hate us more than they dislike their retarded, violent fellow muslims.

Obviously not every Muslim in America is inclined toward terrorism, but for those who are, an American Mosque is a very safe place to be.
7/13/2014 9:58:17 AM EDT
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... I've Muslim neighbors that fled Afghanistan 15 years ago from the Taliban. Didn't want to raise his children in that culture. He's a good man. His family are OK too. WTF?
7/13/2014 10:12:27 AM EDT
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7/13/2014 10:13:49 AM EDT
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It's called Taqiyya - lies or denunciations of their faith to protect Islam.


Is that the singular form?

http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/07/10/07/40/0007100740185_500X500.jpg
 

No, it's the one without the worm.
7/13/2014 10:14:15 AM EDT
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there's more than one type of Muslim



7/13/2014 10:42:05 AM EDT
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I've seen videos where they act peaceful,and say the religion is 100% about peace and getting along ect...They say they don't condone violence and it's NOT in their quran.Also on the flip side I've seen quite the opposite where they say all the killing IS indeed what needs to be done and what they're supposed to do.Is there more than one version of their bible or something?Just wondering how one religion can have such polar opposites in it's belief system???
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Christian's never murdered people for the sake of their religion. Just the goddamn Mooslems.
7/13/2014 10:44:34 AM EDT
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Christian's never murdered people for the sake of their religion. Just the goddamn Mooslems.
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I've seen videos where they act peaceful,and say the religion is 100% about peace and getting along ect...They say they don't condone violence and it's NOT in their quran.Also on the flip side I've seen quite the opposite where they say all the killing IS indeed what needs to be done and what they're supposed to do.Is there more than one version of their bible or something?Just wondering how one religion can have such polar opposites in it's belief system???



Christian's never murdered people for the sake of their religion. Just the goddamn Mooslems.


Do you even Crusades bro?
7/13/2014 10:45:04 AM EDT
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Christian's never murdered people for the sake of their religion. Just the goddamn Mooslems.
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I've seen videos where they act peaceful,and say the religion is 100% about peace and getting along ect...They say they don't condone violence and it's NOT in their quran.Also on the flip side I've seen quite the opposite where they say all the killing IS indeed what needs to be done and what they're supposed to do.Is there more than one version of their bible or something?Just wondering how one religion can have such polar opposites in it's belief system???



Christian's never murdered people for the sake of their religion. Just the goddamn Mooslems.

While I think I know what you are implying it is far from the truth.
7/13/2014 10:46:28 AM EDT
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I've seen videos where they act peaceful,and say the religion is 100% about peace and getting along ect...They say they don't condone violence and it's NOT in their quran.Also on the flip side I've seen quite the opposite where they say all the killing IS indeed what needs to be done and what they're supposed to do.Is there more than one version of their bible or something?Just wondering how one religion can have such polar opposites in it's belief system???



Christian's never murdered people for the sake of their religion. Just the goddamn Mooslems.


Do you even Crusades bro?

or the Calvinists colonizing the NE of America, Inquisition, colonization of just about every continent where Europeans landed?
7/13/2014 10:56:46 AM EDT
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just go to any shock/gore video site and watch thousands of hours of torture, murder, beatings, beheadings, bombings, child abuse and every other atrocity imaginable
they're all committed by muslims screaming "allah worldstar"
7/13/2014 11:03:24 AM EDT
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Obviously doing teryaki.
7/13/2014 11:03:55 AM EDT
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I've seen videos where they act peaceful,and say the religion is 100% about peace and getting along ect...They say they don't condone violence and it's NOT in their quran.Also on the flip side I've seen quite the opposite where they say all the killing IS indeed what needs to be done and what they're supposed to do.Is there more than one version of their bible or something?Just wondering how one religion can have such polar opposites in it's belief system???
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Two(2) things...

1. There will ALWAYS be the "have's" and the "have nots"  

2. Force is always overcome with more force.  (A takes a man with a gun to stop another man with a gun)

Race, creed, color, sex, geography, religion, lifestyle, economy, political affiliations, "your special feelings", all don't count.   Never did.  

7/13/2014 11:05:06 AM EDT
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I've seen videos where they act peaceful,and say the religion is 100% about peace and getting along ect...They say they don't condone violence and it's NOT in their quran.Also on the flip side I've seen quite the opposite where they say all the killing IS indeed what needs to be done and what they're supposed to do.Is there more than one version of their bible or something?Just wondering how one religion can have such polar opposites in it's belief system???



Christian's never murdered people for the sake of their religion. Just the goddamn Mooslems.


Christians have murdered other Christians for the sake of their religion, much like the Musselmen do to each other today in the ME.
7/13/2014 11:05:13 AM EDT
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The whole "religion of peace" thing is a fairly new invention.

I believe it was coined by Fethullah Gullen in the article he published after the 9/11 attacks.

Its more a PR thing than anything else.
7/13/2014 11:11:28 AM EDT
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I was curious as to the differences between Shia/Suni and why they like to kill each other for a hobby.Came across this guy's video's and watched a few.That's what spawned my OP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPNp0QRIxFw
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