Posted: 12/9/2004 10:44:31 PM EDT
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I just read Teeth of the Tiger and thought it was kinda weak but wanted to give Tom another chance since so many like him and I later saw that TotT got bad reviews compared to his other books. So should I read the books in the order they were written, (I am talking about the J. Ryan fiction books) or the timeline order? |
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Order I'd Go, if you want jack Ryan continuity: Hunt For Red October Patriot Games Clear and Present Danger Cardinal of the Kremlin Sum of All Fears Debt of Honor Executive Orders Rainbow Six I might be off. Red Storm Rising is sort of his oddball book, but an awesome "what-if" scenario of war against the USSR in the 1980's in Europe and the North Atlantic. |
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I liked his earlier books better than the later ones. ToT did stink a little. I do remember that it took at least 100 to 150 pages for his books to get going, but then I couldn't put them down. I think his later books have been more "rushed" than earlier ones. I'm not sure if this is to fill a contractual obligation or what. I do see his name on a lot of other stuff other than his own fiction. I've never been interested in the Op-Center or non-ficiton books.... |
You are. Without Remorse Patriot Red October Cardinal Clear and Present Sum of All Debt Executive Rainbow 6 Russia one Teeth The first ones I know for sure, because I asked Tom Clancy in a letter in 7th grade and he wrote back. I have the signed letter on my I LOVE ME wall. |
Without Remorse is a good one too. I am starting Bear and the Dragon, but have noticed that a couple previous books follow an ever-increasingly hard to believe string of events entered into a standard book-producing equation. I can hope that it will get better, but have heard that it wont.
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Stole this from a Tom Clancy FAQ site Published order --------------------------- The Hunt for Red October Patriot Games The Cardinal of the Kremlin Clear and Present Danger The Sum of All Fears Without Remorse Debt of Honor Executive Orders Storyline order --------------------------- Without Remorse Patriot Games The Hunt for Red October The Cardinal of the Kremlin Clear and Present Danger The Sum of All Fears Debt of Honor Executive Orders |
Red Rabbit and the bear and the Dragon and on the top and bottom of your list right? |
+10,000 But I like Rainbox Six better, and Red Storm Rising is a close #3 I don't know what everyones issue with Teeth of the Tiger is. Sure it's a bit slow, but it obvioulsy the begining of a series and he needs to set up things. I thought it was a decent read and had a unique idea. Not it wasn't as good as Rainbow Six or Without Remorse but I wasn't disappointed. |
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I was a bit disappointed with ToT. It was a bit slow. At the end I had the feeling I wasted my time on pulp fiction. Something turned out just to meet a publishing deadline. Rather than the others where, it seemed, the author had his heart in it. I've bought all the other Jack Ryan books in hardbound as soon as they are released (including Red Storm Rising). I don't know I'll buy the next. Probably will, but if I'm as disappointed in it as I was with ToT it'll be the last. |
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In chronological storyline order: Without Remorse Red Rabbit Patriot Games Hunt For Red October Cardinal of the Kremlin Clear and Present Danger The Sum of All Fears Debt of Honor Executive Orders Rainbow Six The Bear And The Dragon The Teeth of the Tiger The only one I'm not sure of is if Red Rabbit came before Patriot Games (Pretty sure it did). My favorites are Cardinal of the Kremlin, Executive Orders, and Rainbow Six, but all of them are kick-ass. Sad truth, though: TOT wasn't his best work. Also, you sometimes DO have to slug through a few hundred pages to get to the point where the book won't let you put it down. Sum Of All Fears is the one I remember most on that note. The scene in Executive Orders where the nursery is attacked is simply unreal.... BTW, I still think he's going to have to write a book about India. They were getting way too pushy near the end... |
Yeah...like crashing a jetliner into a building! j/k  My favorites are: Red Storm Rising Cardinal of the Kremlin Hunt for Red October I enjoyed the Red October and Clear and Present Danger movies...fortunately I saw the movies before reading the books (isn't that usually the case?). I didn't care for the movie Patriot Games much, but after I read the book, I went back and saw the movie again, and they actually did an ok job on the movie. Not like Sum of All Fears where they basically ignored the book. |
I'm sorry, but the movies universally sucked compared to the books. While this is usually the case, they REALLY sucked. Sum of All Fears was, of course, the worst. I'm surprised they even put Clancy's name on it..... |
Ack! Forgot about that. I really liked Executive Orders, but I rank it around #4 or 5 for me. But the daycare scene in Executive Orders is the best scene out of all his books! |
Red Rabbit is after Patriot Games. |
agreed and agreed. Clear and Present Dangeer is my favorite, 100x better than the movie. If you like that one, then go back and start with Patriot Games ( i liked reading Without Remorse later). ToT sucked, hard. i was very dissapointed.  it does NOT do his earlier novels justice.
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Too much left out. Like the A-10 flare run on the Russian HVU. Or the B-52s in the commercial air lanes. I read the Bear and the Dragon and I still have to find time to read Rabbit. But after Rabbit I will not read any more. My favs: 1)Cardinal 2)Rainbow Six 3)Without Remorse 4)Storm 5)Hunt |
"He wasn't feeling, wasn't thinking. He was simply servicing targets as quickly as he could identify them....." DAMN! I'm gonna have to pull that book up and read that part again!  "SANDSTORM! SANDSTORM! SANDSTORM!" That almost sounds as good as "IREEEEEEEEENE!!!!" |
That and the character of John Kelly who becomes Mr. Clark is a very likable guy. The book also clarifies who Mr. Clark is, where he came from and even has ties to Jack Ryan (the Baltimore detective who investigates the "drug dealer" homicides is Jack Ryans father.) |
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I recogmend reading in printed order, "Red Storm Rising" can be read at any time, not part of the Ryan series. That is the way that Clancy "fleshed" them out. The books that jump back in time can be considered flashbacks. Stephen Hunter is the same way, read in printed order. Consider time-lined books flashbacks in time. |