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10/31/2005 4:03:19 AM EDT
And a logical honesty test for Arfcommers.

He nominates Alito. Outstanding. When a politicians does something right, he deserves credit.

Let's see who gives him his due praise.

We know who you are, you Arfcommer Bush haters. Like you I've criticized him when he screws up.

Question is, do you possess the intellectual honesty to give credit where due?

Largely, I doubt it.
10/31/2005 4:16:39 AM EDT
[#1]
Don't know nuthin about Alito.  When I learn more, I'll voice my opinion.
10/31/2005 4:19:35 AM EDT
[#2]

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Don't know nuthin about Alito.  When I learn more, I'll voice my opinion.



read one of the half dozen threads about him. He's got more experience on the bench than any Scotus nominee in the past seventy years. He's been confirmed twice in the past by US Senate for two federal judgeships, both times the confirmations were unanimous. He is a stellar candidate and a friend to gun owners.
10/31/2005 4:19:54 AM EDT
[#3]

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Don't know nuthin about Alito.  When I learn more, I'll voice my opinion.



I have never heard of him, I Wanted Brown. From what I read he sounds promising though. Hell, they all have.

10/31/2005 4:21:06 AM EDT
[#4]
he would have gotten my praise and respect had he nominated him FIRST, instead of nominating an unqualified individual for the position the first time.

I honestly beleive this nomination was nothing more than bush trying to save face for meirs.
10/31/2005 4:26:42 AM EDT
[#5]

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he would have gotten my praise and respect had he nominated him FIRST, instead of nominating an unqualified individual for the position the first time.

I honestly beleive this nomination was nothing more than bush trying to save face for meirs.



I dont think the right was smart enough to get behind her. Her writings on the Second were clear an absolute. The left didnt know enough about her to counter her, and had no ammo to do so. HE has always made good picks, imho, in both cabinet and bench.


I had zero issues with Harriet.
10/31/2005 4:27:51 AM EDT
[#6]

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he would have gotten my praise and respect had he nominated him FIRST, instead of nominating an unqualified individual for the position the first time.

I honestly beleive this nomination was nothing more than bush trying to save face for meirs.



This is clueless citizenship.

This is a nation OF BY and FOR the people. Which means if teh people lead, the leaders will follow.

A KEY method of citizen leadersip is PRAISE for pols that do right. REGARDLESS of what they've done in teh past.

Psycologists call it "positive reinforcement."

Just keep hammering on Bush, with no positive comments when he does right, and see what it gets ya.

Clueless.


10/31/2005 4:28:19 AM EDT
[#7]

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Don't know nuthin about Alito.  When I learn more, I'll voice my opinion.



read one of the half dozen threads about him.








Sounds good to me...much better than Miers.  Props to Jorge.
10/31/2005 4:43:44 AM EDT
[#8]

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he would have gotten my praise and respect had he nominated him FIRST, instead of nominating an unqualified individual for the position the first time.

I honestly beleive this nomination was nothing more than bush trying to save face for meirs.



What makes you say that Meiers is unqualified?  She has a stellar background as an attorney, is honest, hard working and knows the law.  Not all nominees or justices have been judges before becoming justices.  She is highly qualified, just too many are scared because she is stealth.

Alito is an excellent nominee too.  But, too much information available so that the libtards will probably attempt a fillibuster.
10/31/2005 4:53:40 AM EDT
[#9]

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he would have gotten my praise and respect had he nominated him FIRST, instead of nominating an unqualified individual for the position the first time.

I honestly beleive this nomination was nothing more than bush trying to save face for meirs.



What makes you say that Meiers is unqualified?  She has a stellar background as an attorney, is honest, hard working and knows the law.  Not all nominees or justices have been judges before becoming justices.  She is highly qualified, just too many are scared because she is stealth.

Alito is an excellent nominee too.  But, too much information available so that the libtards will probably attempt a fillibuster.



a lot of us remember the fucking bush's daddy gave us on souter, another "stealth" nominee. Also CFR, open borders, patriot act, kelo vs new london and a host of other issues are not making a lot of us want to trust W at the moment. He needs to regain our trust, and appointing Alito will help with that.
10/31/2005 4:55:18 AM EDT
[#10]
I would have given kudo's to Bush if he had made this choice the first time.  Though I guess later is better than never.
10/31/2005 4:58:12 AM EDT
[#11]

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What makes you say that Meiers is unqualified?  She has a stellar background as an attorney, is honest, hard working and knows the law.  Not all nominees or justices have been judges before becoming justices.  She is highly qualified, just too many are scared because she is stealth.

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I heard IdiOReilly saying something similar the other day.

"Knowledge of the law" is irrelevant. Personal injury lawyers "know the law."

For SCOTUS, you want Constitutional scholars. Constitutional law is a precise area. Not ANY smart lawyer will do.

In essence, you want the nine best Constitutional scholars in the land - you want the "dream team" . "Honest, hard working" etc is great for district court, but NOT SCOTUS.
10/31/2005 5:00:50 AM EDT
[#12]

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For SCOTUS, you want Constitutional scholars. COnstitutional law is a precise area. Not ANY smart lawyer will do.

In essence, you want the nine best Constitutional scholars in the land - you want the "dream team" . "Honest, hard working" etc is great for district court, but NOT SCOTUS.

That was the basis for my objection...
10/31/2005 5:04:37 AM EDT
[#13]

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For SCOTUS, you want Constitutional scholars. COnstitutional law is a precise area. Not ANY smart lawyer will do.

In essence, you want the nine best Constitutional scholars in the land - you want the "dream team" . "Honest, hard working" etc is great for district court, but NOT SCOTUS.

That was the basis for my objection...



Mine too.

I'm still convinced Miers was a throw away nominee. Bush is a master of politics of the possible. He knew how important these two pics are.

Most of the country just wants nine black robes up there. Dems opposing Alito now will just look like obstructionists.

Which of course they are.
10/31/2005 5:09:59 AM EDT
[#14]

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I would have given kudo's to Bush if he had made this choice the first time.  Though I guess later is better than never.



I feel the same although I will be willing to say kudos if this guy turns out to be what he is being pumped up to be.  Praise for a good choice is one thing, but I'd prefer it didn't take a rebelion (political) to get results.  Although that IS the system working, nice to see that happen sometimes.
10/31/2005 5:11:21 AM EDT
[#15]

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For SCOTUS, you want Constitutional scholars. COnstitutional law is a precise area. Not ANY smart lawyer will do.

In essence, you want the nine best Constitutional scholars in the land - you want the "dream team" . "Honest, hard working" etc is great for district court, but NOT SCOTUS.

That was the basis for my objection...



Mine too.

I'm still convinced Miers was a throw away nominee. Bush is a master of politics of the possible. He knew how important these two pics are.

Most of the country just wants nine black robes up there. Dems opposing Alito now will just look like obstructionists.

Which of course they are.



I don't buy the "master stroke" theory, but whatever, if we get a good one replace O'Conner that's a big win!
10/31/2005 5:15:09 AM EDT
[#16]
yep, nice choice.  not as conservative as Scalia, more like Roberts.  but im happy.
10/31/2005 11:37:27 AM EDT
[#17]

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he would have gotten my praise and respect had he nominated him FIRST, instead of nominating an unqualified individual for the position the first time.

I honestly beleive this nomination was nothing more than bush trying to save face for meirs.



This is clueless citizenship.

This is a nation OF BY and FOR the people. Which means if teh people lead, the leaders will follow.

A KEY method of citizen leadersip is PRAISE for pols that do right. REGARDLESS of what they've done in teh past.

Psycologists call it "positive reinforcement."

Just keep hammering on Bush, with no positive comments when he does right, and see what it gets ya.

Clueless.





this is koolaid drinking.

positive reinforcement is great when things are done properly. Giving someone an ata boy after a screwup is being a "yes man".

I am very happy with his current choice and will give him credit for making it. the problem with your thought process is this....

at he level of presidential policy there is NO room for screwups. we will feel mistakes at that level for a LONG time afterwards.
10/31/2005 11:39:34 AM EDT
[#18]

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Don't know nuthin about Alito.  When I learn more, I'll voice my opinion.



read one of the half dozen threads about him. He's got more experience on the bench than any Scotus nominee in the past seventy years. He's been confirmed twice in the past by US Senate for two federal judgeships, both times the confirmations were unanimous. He is a stellar candidate and [red]a friend to gun owners.[/red]



Then he's perfect
10/31/2005 11:40:21 AM EDT
[#19]
I nominate Judge Joe Brown
10/31/2005 11:44:41 AM EDT
[#20]

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at he level of presidential policy there is NO room for screwups. we will feel mistakes at that level for a LONG time afterwards.



I didn't see "God" on the ballot.

10/31/2005 11:58:05 AM EDT
[#21]

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he would have gotten my praise and respect had he nominated him FIRST, instead of nominating an unqualified individual for the position the first time.

I honestly beleive this nomination was nothing more than bush trying to save face for meirs.



What makes you say that Meiers is unqualified?  She has a stellar background as an attorney, is honest, hard working and knows the law.  Not all nominees or justices have been judges before becoming justices.  She is highly qualified, just too many are scared because she is stealth.

Alito is an excellent nominee too.  But, too much information available so that the libtards will probably attempt a fillibuster.



Dude, they had to let her rewrite some of her answers to the questionaire she responded to.  She made mistakes on pretty basic constitutional questions that had to be corrected.
10/31/2005 12:02:58 PM EDT
[#22]
I will give him props when he

Gets Frist to take nuke option immediately and rams this nominee down the Dims throats
Bombs Syria and Iran
Rescends 89 EO
Quits spending spree and stops Gov. growth.
10/31/2005 12:10:10 PM EDT
[#23]
I will say that I give GW a thumbs up on the tax cuts that he signed into law.

I will say that it looks as if this nominee should be a good one.


But I do believe it was only to bring the conservative base back under control.

I am still not a bushbot nor am I in his camp. Klinton did a couple of things right too, but I was never in his camp.
10/31/2005 12:10:29 PM EDT
[#24]

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I nominate Judge Joe Brown



Why not the guy on Texas Justice?
10/31/2005 12:14:08 PM EDT
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But I do believe it was only to bring the conservative base back under control.

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Or it could be viewed as the base bringing Bush back under control.

It kinda saddens me to see people think they can just elect a politician, and then think they don't have to do anytyhing further.

ITS OUR JOB to CONSTANTLY remind Bush et all what we want.



10/31/2005 12:40:49 PM EDT
[#26]

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But I do believe it was only to bring the conservative base back under control.

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Or it could be viewed as the base bringing Bush back under control.

It kinda saddens me to see people think they can just elect a politician, and then think they don't have to do anytyhing further.

ITS OUR JOB to CONSTANTLY remind Bush et all what we want.







but if we do that,

you consider it bashing.
10/31/2005 12:56:20 PM EDT
[#27]

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ITS OUR JOB to CONSTANTLY remind Bush et all what we want.







but if we do that,

you consider it bashing.



See my "scAlito letters" thread to see the BALANCE I am advocating.

You gotta BOTH praise AND admonish.

Its BOTH AND.

I send letters to my CongressCritters often.  I always pair praise and admonition.

From some people I ONLY hear vitriol and criticism (my mom is one of  those people)

NO ONE is motivated to positive action that way. NO ONE.

You need to realize that.
10/31/2005 1:20:00 PM EDT
[#28]

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ITS OUR JOB to CONSTANTLY remind Bush et all what we want.







but if we do that,

you consider it bashing.



See my "scAlito letters" thread to see the BALANCE I am advocating.

You gotta BOTH praise AND admonish.

Its BOTH AND.

I send letters to my CongressCritters often.  I always pair praise and admonition.

From some people I ONLY hear vitriol and criticism (my mom is one of  those people)

NO ONE is motivated to positive action that way. NO ONE.

You need to realize that.



what exactly makes you think i don't? i most certanly DO write them when things are done right. I am not going to write a letter that says.... HEY! great job on your second choice.
10/31/2005 1:32:52 PM EDT
[#29]

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yep, nice choice.  not as conservative as Scalia, more like Roberts.  but im happy.



From what I have heard, he is as conservative as Scalia, but not as arrogant. Alita meets the Roberts standard for brain power too.
10/31/2005 1:37:22 PM EDT
[#30]

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he would have gotten my praise and respect had he nominated him FIRST, instead of nominating an unqualified individual for the position the first time.

I honestly beleive this nomination was nothing more than bush trying to save face for meirs.



I dont think the right was smart enough to get behind her. Her writings on the Second were clear an absolute. The left didnt know enough about her to counter her, and had no ammo to do so. HE has always made good picks, imho, in both cabinet and bench.


I had zero issues with Harriet.



Nor did I.
10/31/2005 1:39:34 PM EDT
[#31]

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Don't know nuthin about Alito.  When I learn more, I'll voice my opinion.



read one of the half dozen threads about him.



www.etherpunk.com/images/drupal/captain-obvious-437_640x480.jpg




Sounds good to me...much better than Miers.  Props to Jorge.



Props to who?
10/31/2005 1:42:10 PM EDT
[#32]
GIVE HIM CREDIT? hell no..I thought this guy was appointed to do good. ALL the time! not just when it benefits the conservetive base, Bushy has done so much wrong you people now praise him for the little things he acctually gets right? wow. Im tired of people buying into this monkey..This guy couldnt manage a donut shop if it was given to him! look at his past, he drove every buisiness he's got his hands on into the ground!Does he convince you with the dumbfounded look on his face? or maybe the slurred speech? What more could he do wrong? Granted clinton wasnt an angel, but honestly. this guy has touched the recored books. Hes royally fucked up, and he got away with a war so he thinks he can get away with it all!


10/31/2005 1:43:34 PM EDT
[#33]

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GIVE HIM CREDIT? hell no..I thought this guy was appointed to do good. ALL the time! not just when it benefits the conservetive base, Bushy has done so much wrong you people now praise him for the little things he acctually gets right? wow. Im tired of people buying into this monkey..This guy couldnt manage a donut shop if it was given to him! look at his past, he drove every buisiness he's got his hands on into the ground!Does he convince you with the dumbfounded look on his face? or maybe the slurred speech? What more could he do wrong? Granted clinton wasnt an angel, but honestly. this guy has touched the recored books. Hes royally fucked up, and he got away with a war so he thinks he can get away with it all!





alarm is going off.
10/31/2005 1:45:59 PM EDT
[#34]

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GIVE HIM CREDIT? hell no..



Who are you?
10/31/2005 1:48:08 PM EDT
[#35]
Props for Bush?  

I thought this topic was going to be about hiring someone in Hollywood to manufacture some WMD's to be "found".
10/31/2005 1:50:25 PM EDT
[#36]

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GIVE HIM CREDIT? hell no..I thought this guy was appointed to do good. ALL the time! not just when it benefits the conservetive base, Bushy has done so much wrong you people now praise him for the little things he acctually gets right? wow. Im tired of people buying into this monkey..This guy couldnt manage a donut shop if it was given to him! look at his past, he drove every buisiness he's got his hands on into the ground!Does he convince you with the dumbfounded look on his face? or maybe the slurred speech? What more could he do wrong? Granted clinton wasnt an angel, but honestly. this guy has touched the recored books. Hes royally fucked up, and he got away with a war so he thinks he can get away with it all!





I think DU lost it's idiot.
10/31/2005 1:51:07 PM EDT
[#37]

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Props for Bush?  

I thought this topic was going to be about hiring someone in Hollywood to manufacture some WMD's to be "found".



Yeah, I guess geniuses like you believe that they weren't actually there.
10/31/2005 1:59:30 PM EDT
[#38]
WMD's? what the ones that can hit you in 45minutes? or maybe the yellow cake?

gimme a break.
10/31/2005 2:02:59 PM EDT
[#39]

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he would have gotten my praise and respect had he nominated him FIRST, instead of nominating an unqualified individual for the position the first time.

I honestly beleive this nomination was nothing more than bush trying to save face for meirs.



+1
10/31/2005 2:03:35 PM EDT
[#40]

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Props for Bush?  

I thought this topic was going to be about hiring someone in Hollywood to manufacture some WMD's to be "found".



Yeah, I guess geniuses like you believe that they weren't actually there.



No, the fact that Iraq had them at one time is not in doubt by anyone.  The question is, what happened to them?  I suppose geniuses like you have a great answer.  Maybe you should write Collin Powell a letter so he can redeem himself.  
10/31/2005 2:09:48 PM EDT
[#41]

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Props for Bush?  

I thought this topic was going to be about hiring someone in Hollywood to manufacture some WMD's to be "found".



Yeah, I guess geniuses like you believe that they weren't actually there.



No, the fact that Iraq had them at one time is not in doubt by anyone.  The question is, what happened to them?  I suppose geniuses like you have a great answer.  Maybe you should write Collin Powell a letter so he can redeem himself.  



Anyone who doesn't have a leftwing bias can figure it out.  Those who can't just don't want to.

Who the hell is Collin Powell?
10/31/2005 2:17:15 PM EDT
[#42]

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Props for Bush?  

I thought this topic was going to be about hiring someone in Hollywood to manufacture some WMD's to be "found".



Yeah, I guess geniuses like you believe that they weren't actually there.



No, the fact that Iraq had them at one time is not in doubt by anyone.  The question is, what happened to them?  I suppose geniuses like you have a great answer.  Maybe you should write Collin Powell a letter so he can redeem himself.  



Anyone who doesn't have a leftwing bias can figure it out.  Those who can't just don't want to.

Who the hell is Collin Powell?



I assume you are kidding about Colin Powell.  

What happened to them then?  Did the UN carry them away for safekeeping in their black helicopters?  Do the Chinese have them stored in Montana?
10/31/2005 2:25:53 PM EDT
[#43]

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WMD's? what the ones that can hit you in 45minutes? or maybe the yellow cake?

gimme a break.



The "45 minutes" is the time it takes to prepare and fill chemical artillery shells in something close to a safe manner. Its not nonsense, but was taken out of context.

The yellow cake shipments to Iraq were confirmed and they found a bunch of it in Iraq. The only thing in question was one particular shipment from Niger.  The previous 4 or 5 shipments did happen.
10/31/2005 2:27:15 PM EDT
[#44]

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what exactly makes you think i don't? i most certanly DO write them when things are done right. I am not going to write a letter that says.... HEY! great job on your second choice.



You don't have any children, do you? And you've never worked with children, have you?

You don't have any people that work for you do you? You've never had to manage people have you?



10/31/2005 2:29:44 PM EDT
[#45]

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Klinton did a couple of things right too, but I was never in his camp.




I would like to hear of these good deeds please.  As far as I'm concerned, Klinton was a total piece of shit as a human, and an utter failure as a president unless you count mastering the use of focus groups as good leadership.
10/31/2005 2:44:54 PM EDT
[#46]

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WMD's? what the ones that can hit you in 45minutes? or maybe the yellow cake?

gimme a break.



The "45 minutes" is the time it takes to prepare and fill chemical artillery shells in something close to a safe manner. Its not nonsense, but was taken out of context.

The yellow cake shipments to Iraq were confirmed and they found a bunch of it in Iraq. The only thing in question was one particular shipment from Niger.  The previous 4 or 5 shipments did happen.



yes exactly. It was. but I have yet to see an artillery shell that can travel 6,000miles. Look theres no question he can deveople gas, but nukes? and to maintain nukes? I remember Colin powell, When this administration came into office, said IRAQ poses no threat. And iraq's military would be crippled for the next 20+ years as result of the first gulf war. This i belive, but WMD's no.There was and is a greater threat out there i.e Iran,N.Korea. Now becuase of this wonderful move, we probably wont get the support we need to fight a real threat!
10/31/2005 2:46:11 PM EDT
[#47]
I think Bush got the message that we elected a CONSERVATIVE not a liberal butt kisser. I think he made a excellent choice. [Against 86 MG ban stands out] Now he needs to go on the attack against illegal immigration and spending on liberal welfare givaways and pork spending. I am sure his choice will be Borked and I hope he will have the guts to call the Kennedys and Schumers out by name [a--hole's come to mind] if it is attempted. He ain't running for re-election so screw the getting along with the liberal weenies.
10/31/2005 2:51:02 PM EDT
[#48]

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GIVE HIM CREDIT? hell no..I thought this guy was appointed to do good. ALL the time! not just when it benefits the conservetive base, Bushy has done so much wrong you people now praise him for the little things he acctually gets right? wow. Im tired of people buying into this monkey..This guy couldnt manage a donut shop if it was given to him! look at his past, he drove every buisiness he's got his hands on into the ground!Does he convince you with the dumbfounded look on his face? or maybe the slurred speech? What more could he do wrong? Granted clinton wasnt an angel, but honestly. this guy has touched the recored books. Hes royally fucked up, and he got away with a war so he thinks he can get away with it all!





Go away troll and collect your welfare check. And you are obviously ill informed about Bill the "head" Clinton.
10/31/2005 2:54:44 PM EDT
[#49]

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Props for Bush?  

I thought this topic was going to be about hiring someone in Hollywood to manufacture some WMD's to be "found".



Yeah, I guess geniuses like you believe that they weren't actually there.



No, the fact that Iraq had them at one time is not in doubt by anyone.  The question is, what happened to them?  I suppose geniuses like you have a great answer.  Maybe you should write Collin Powell a letter so he can redeem himself.  



Anyone who doesn't have a leftwing bias can figure it out.  Those who can't just don't want to.

Who the hell is Collin Powell?



I assume you are kidding about Colin Powell.  

What happened to them then?  Did the UN carry them away for safekeeping in their black helicopters?  Do the Chinese have them stored in Montana?



I know who Colin Powell is, I just never heard of Collin Powell.

If you would bother to read, your question about "what happened to them" is pretty well answered by many posts other than mine.  Of course, that doesn't affect those that absolutely want to believe that they were not there.
10/31/2005 3:01:39 PM EDT
[#50]

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GIVE HIM CREDIT? hell no..I thought this guy was appointed to do good. ALL the time! not just when it benefits the conservetive base, Bushy has done so much wrong you people now praise him for the little things he acctually gets right? wow. Im tired of people buying into this monkey..This guy couldnt manage a donut shop if it was given to him! look at his past, he drove every buisiness he's got his hands on into the ground!Does he convince you with the dumbfounded look on his face? or maybe the slurred speech? What more could he do wrong? Granted clinton wasnt an angel, but honestly. this guy has touched the recored books. Hes royally fucked up, and he got away with a war so he thinks he can get away with it all!





Go away troll and collect your welfare check. And you are obviously ill informed about Bill the "head" Clinton.




Fall in line you Sheep. Obviously your ill informed! i never gave credit to klintion, i give credit where its due. Bush doesnt get credit. When he deploys the right amount of troops to get the job done RIGHT then ill re-consider
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