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8/16/2007 6:37:58 AM EDT
Really socket suggestions.

Im staring in the face of replacing my mother board and instead of holding on to my socket 939 processor (Athlon 3200+) Im looking at going to an AM2 board and get a low end (Comparable to my current proc.) chip and be able to upgrade later.


Any suggestions on what chip line is better for gaming? I know the Core series from Intel is pretty good, but I dont know anything on how it compares to other chips.


Any ideas will help, and preferably soon if possible. Im looking at ordering the board and chip today.

ETA-- Price is a big thing. Im getting ready to start classes back and dont have a huge amount of $$.  The AM2 board and processor cost about $150 and I can get a 3.0 gig Athlon for ~$170 later if I want it.

8/16/2007 12:34:55 PM EDT
[#1]
amd's are great for gaming.     if you get the processor make sure you get the retail box.  (not OEM)you get a three year warranty on the process that way  
8/16/2007 12:37:13 PM EDT
[#2]
Well...

I just bought a Core Duo.
They seemed to be the better bet for upgradability, since AMD is yet to go to release Phenom processors and whatever their socket will be.

ETA-- You are just too slow Cruze!  
8/16/2007 12:43:28 PM EDT
[#3]
i just recommended it because your on a budget.    

yeah i was over at my sisters house  
8/16/2007 1:11:57 PM EDT
[#4]
No prob..


Kinda depressing when I can buy a processor and Motherboard for about the same price as a textbook for school.




But I read reviews of the intels running cooler than comperable Athlons, and that is important to me. I have to run my machine in a hot environment, and need a cooler processor if possible.

Also, there seems to be better upgrade options on the intel (for now)
8/17/2007 9:18:40 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Well...

I just bought a Core Duo.
They seemed to be the better bet for upgradability, since AMD is yet to go to release Phenom processors and whatever their socket will be.

ETA-- You are just too slow Cruze!  


I hope you mean Core 2 Dou which is a great choice... the Core Duo is not.
8/17/2007 9:22:07 AM EDT
[#6]

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Core 2 is your best bet although the Athlons are kinda appealing now that they've slashed prices - you can get the top of the line 6000+ model for less than $200 and it goes up against Intels ~$300 models.


Intel cut prices last month... you can get a Core 2 Duo 6550 for about $185, or a Core 2 Duo 6750 that for about $210, and you can get a Core 2 QUAD Q6600 for $285.

The Core 2 Duo 6550 is close to the 6000+ and the Core 2 Duo 6750 is faster that the 6000+

The 6000+ uses a lot more power and produce a lot more heat than any Core 2 Duo.
8/17/2007 9:31:17 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Well...

I just bought a Core Duo.
They seemed to be the better bet for upgradability, since AMD is yet to go to release Phenom processors and whatever their socket will be.

ETA-- You are just too slow Cruze!  


I hope you mean Core 2 Dou which is a great choice... the Core Duo is not.


E6320 Core 2 Duo.

Should be here today.
8/17/2007 9:45:53 AM EDT
[#8]

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E6320 Core 2 Duo.

Should be here today.


That is going to be a nice speed bump from a Athlon 64 3200+... I smell a video card upgrade next.
8/17/2007 11:29:37 AM EDT
[#9]

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Quoted:

E6320 Core 2 Duo.

Should be here today.


That is going to be a nice speed bump from a Athlon 64 3200+... I smell a video card upgrade next.


Yeah, and the new motherboard supports the 3 gb/s mode for my harddrives where the old one wouldnt.
8/17/2007 12:19:50 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

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Core 2 is your best bet although the Athlons are kinda appealing now that they've slashed prices - you can get the top of the line 6000+ model for less than $200 and it goes up against Intels ~$300 models.


Intel cut prices last month... you can get a Core 2 Duo 6550 for about $185, or a Core 2 Duo 6750 that for about $210, and you can get a Core 2 QUAD Q6600 for $285.

The Core 2 Duo 6550 is close to the 6000+ and the Core 2 Duo 6750 is faster that the 6000+

The 6000+ uses a lot more power and produce a lot more heat than any Core 2 Duo.


Oh I know, but you can get a 6000+ for like $169 and in most benchmarks it ties with the Q6600 and is ahead of the E6600/6650. The only processors that are ahead of it are Intel's Extreme series and the E6700/6750 and those cost over $200. The Q6600 doesn't have a stable price right now (it's jumped up to $289 at Newegg since you posted).

Here are the CPU charts from THG:
www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html

Like I said, I'd probably go with a Q6600 but if price is a concern then the 6000+ is definitely worth looking at; not to mention I think the AMD mobos are probably cheaper too...

ETA: THe 6000+ quite a bit faster than the E6320 and they both cost about the same; in this case I would have gone with the 6000+.
8/17/2007 12:38:39 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Core 2 is your best bet although the Athlons are kinda appealing now that they've slashed prices - you can get the top of the line 6000+ model for less than $200 and it goes up against Intels ~$300 models.


Intel cut prices last month... you can get a Core 2 Duo 6550 for about $185, or a Core 2 Duo 6750 that for about $210, and you can get a Core 2 QUAD Q6600 for $285.

The Core 2 Duo 6550 is close to the 6000+ and the Core 2 Duo 6750 is faster that the 6000+

The 6000+ uses a lot more power and produce a lot more heat than any Core 2 Duo.


Oh I know, but you can get a 6000+ for like $169 and in most benchmarks it ties with the Q6600 and is ahead of the E6600/6650. The only processors that are ahead of it are Intel's Extreme series and the E6700/6750 and those cost over $200. The Q6600 doesn't have a stable price right now (it's jumped up to $289 at Newegg since you posted).

Here are the CPU charts from THG:
www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html

Like I said, I'd probably go with a Q6600 but if price is a concern then the 6000+ is definitely worth looking at; not to mention I think the AMD mobos are probably cheaper too...

ETA: THe 6000+ quite a bit faster than the E6320 and they both cost about the same; in this case I would have gone with the 6000+.


The speed difference in the E6550 and the 6000+ is on the order of 2-4% or in other words there is no perceptible difference for most applications. If you are buying a new motherboard I just do not see going with the 6000+ over the E6550 because speed wise they are so close and the E6550 uses much less power and produces a lot less heat. And later as price drops you will have more upgrade options with the Intel line.

IMO at this point the 6000+ is a dead end.