Posted: 3/3/2004 5:40:18 AM EDT
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Soon...very soon...John Kerry will announce the SUPER TICKET...KERRY/CLINTON (Bill)...this ticket cannot be defeated...Kerry/Clinton will win by a majority and the electoral college...soon after taking office...JOHN Kerry will succumb to an untimely incapacitation (ala Vince Foster) and Bill Clinton will constitutionally rise to power once again...he will then name his wife Sen Hillary Rodham Clinton to the Vice Presidency...whereby she will then win in 2008 and by 2009 we will either be armed and fighting, unarmed dead or enslaved... Note this is fictional/hypothetical and in no way threatens a presidential candidate in any way, shape or form... |
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Legally and constitutionally I believe he can...read on... The first objection, the constitutional one, can be disposed of easily. The Constitution does not prevent Clinton from running for vice president. The 22nd Amendment, which became effective in 1951, begins: [B]"No person shall be elected to the office of the president more than twice."[/B] No problem. Bill Clinton would be running for vice president, not president. Scholars and judges can debate how loosely constitutional language should be interpreted, but one need not be a strict constructionist to find this language clear beyond dispute. Bill Clinton cannot be elected president, but nothing stops him from being elected vice president. True, if Clinton were vice president he would be in line for the presidency. But Clinton would succeed Kerry not by election, which the amendment forbids, but through Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution, which provides that if a president dies, resigns or is removed from office, his powers "shall devolve on the vice president." The 22nd Amendment would not prevent this succession. [B]A LITTLE SCARY HUH[/B] |
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There is one monumental thing stopping clinton, Ego. Does anyone beleive he could ever play bench warmer to the likes of Kerry? Does *anyone* think that kerry wants clinton looking over his shoulder, biting his lip and giving knowing looks to the camera every time Kerry FUBAR's something? |
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Quoted: Never happen. Why would the Dems waste the V.P. spot, which normally they would give to someone with presidential ambitions, on someone who's Constitutionally prohibited from running for office? To win. I am sure that if BC were the VP, kerry woudl win by a landslide (Like over 65%). Aren't you? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Never happen. Why would the Dems waste the V.P. spot, which normally they would give to someone with presidential ambitions, on someone who's Constitutionally prohibited from running for office? To win. I am sure that if BC were the VP, kerry woudl win by a landslide (Like over 65%). Aren't you? No. The only people who are still enamored with B. Clinton are the demonrats who would vote for Kerry anyway. Adding Clinton to the ticket wouldn't sway independents or Republicans to vote Dem. The guy has too much baggage to be a draw for non-Dems to cross over. The hard-core Dems who still love Clinton are already voting for Kerry. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Never happen. Why would the Dems waste the V.P. spot, which normally they would give to someone with presidential ambitions, on someone who's Constitutionally prohibited from running for office? To win. I am sure that if BC were the VP, kerry woudl win by a landslide (Like over 65%). Aren't you? No. The only people who are still enamored with B. Clinton are the demonrats who would vote for Kerry anyway. Adding Clinton to the ticket wouldn't sway independents or Republicans to vote Dem. The guy has too much baggage to be a draw for non-Dems to cross over. The hard-core Dems who still love Clinton are already voting for Kerry. I think you are way wrong. I think, with jsut a bit of marketing magic, the Kerry/Clinton ticket could have even you longing for the bygone days of the Clinton administration. |
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Quoted: Soon...very soon...John Kerry will announce the SUPER TICKET...KERRY/CLINTON (Bill)...this ticket cannot be defeated...Kerry/Clinton will win by a majority and the electoral college...soon after taking office...JOHN Kerry will succumb to an untimely incapacitation (ala Vince Foster) and Bill Clinton will constitutionally rise to power once again...he will then name his wife Sen Hillary Rodham Clinton to the Vice Presidency...whereby she will then win in 2008 and by 2009 we will either be armed and fighting, unarmed dead or enslaved... Note this is fictional/hypothetical and in no way threatens a presidential candidate in any way, shape or form... Slick Willy cannot be VP, because the law prohibits him from being president for a full term again. It's a max of 10yrs total... Of course, if the above scenario DID happen, we'd have President Hastert 2yrs later, when Willy's 10yrs were up... |
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Dave-A...where can I find the 10 year limitation statute...I still think he can legally run...as VP [B]Amendment XXII Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term. Section 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states by the Congress[/B] |
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Hanoi John's short list "TOP FIVE" - * NM Gov. Bill Richardson (brings in the west AND the hispanic votes) * AZ Gov. Janet Napolitano (takes AZ away from GW and brings in the west and the womenz) * FL Sen. Bob Graham (takes Florida away from GW) * MO Rep. Dick Gephardt (brings in more moderate Dems in the fly-over states) * IN Sen. Evan Bayh (brings in fly-over states and hard-hit industrial manufacturing states) Leading "second-tier" choice: John Edwards (for obvious reasons) |
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Quoted: No. The only people who are still enamored with B. Clinton are the demonrats who would vote for Kerry anyway. Adding Clinton to the ticket wouldn't sway independents or Republicans to vote Dem. The guy has too much baggage to be a draw for non-Dems to cross over. The hard-core Dems who still love Clinton are already voting for Kerry. Yes, but a Clinton/Kerry ticket could result in a lot of pro-Clinton people showing up to vote that wouldn't bother for, say, a Kerry/Edwards ticket. jafager |
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[B]Slick Willy cannot be VP, because the law prohibits him from being president for a full term again. It's a max of 10yrs total... Of course, if the above scenario DID happen, we'd have President Hastert 2yrs later, when Willy's 10yrs were up...[/B] I too remember something about the 10 year rule. If this were to happen what would prevent Bill from having Hitlery as his VP then at the end of the second year step down leaving her as President. Had LBJ run for a 2nd term he would have fulfilled the 10 year limit. Well close enough, nine years and a month. |
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Bill Clinton gets in excess of $100K PLUS expenses for a speaking engagement these days...why on earth would he want to take the pay cut to become VP? He just got 300K for a trip to China, for example. It's much more lucrative on the outside for him these days to ever go back. |
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The 22nd Amendment "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once...” So in essence if Clinton was VP he could succeed Kerry if he became incapacitated But..... the 12th Amendment states: "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of president shall be eligible to that of Vice President of the United States." which means that Clinton could not be Vice President. It has nothing to do with the number "10 years" At least that is my take on the matter. |
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The 22nd says: No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. It means that if someone held the office of president for less than two years and dies or leaves, the successor can run for two more terms. A maximum of ten years. Now it doesn't cover anything such as we're talking about here where someone who has been elected twice and then becomes VP and then gains office through succession. That would be for the Supreme Court to determine if it came to that. |