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Posted: 4/26/2014 8:53:10 AM EDT
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/25/police-shot-virginia-man-23-times-autopsy-shows/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+foxnews/national+%28Internal+-+US+Latest+-+Text%29




Police shot Virginia man 23 times, autopsy shows









MARTINSBURG, W.Va. –  An autopsy report says Martinsburg police officers shot a Virginia man 23 times during an altercation in 2013.




The report says Wayne Arnold Jones died from multiple gunshot wounds.




The 50-year-old Stephens City, Va., man's brothers are suing the city
over the shooting on behalf of his estate. The wrongful death lawsuit
seeks $200 million in damages.




Media outlets report that the family's lawyer, Sherman L. Lambert
Sr., filed a copy of the autopsy report in federal court in Martinsburg
on Tuesday. Lambert also filed an amended lawsuit that adds the officers
as defendants.




Police have said Jones drew a knife and stabbed one officer during a scuffle.

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Link Posted: 4/26/2014 8:56:22 AM EDT
23 on target hits. Thats some good shooting..
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 8:56:39 AM EDT
Zero fucks given.

If they are worth shooting once, they are worth shooting fifty times. Shoot until the threat stops.

Link Posted: 4/26/2014 8:58:18 AM EDT
Stabbed a cop? 100 holes wouldn't bother me.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 8:58:59 AM EDT
I am not burdened by the ravages of remorse here.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 8:59:05 AM EDT
You have to make sure the deaded.
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Originally Posted By SteelTalon:
23 on target hits. Thats some good shooting..
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not if they expended 300 rounds. think of how much deader he could have been!
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:00:11 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By treelow:


Zero fucks given.



If they are worth shooting once, they are worth shooting fifty times. Shoot until the threat stops.



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ayup.



 
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:02:07 AM EDT
$200 million in damages.

Wow. That's significantly over estimating a person's worth.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:02:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By woozman:
not if they expended 300 rounds. think of how much deader he could have been!
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Originally Posted By woozman:



Originally Posted By SteelTalon:

23 on target hits. Thats some good shooting..




not if they expended 300 rounds. think of how much deader he could have been!














 
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:06:18 AM EDT
Okay, they used the plural "officers" meaning more than one cop shot him.  Assume two two-officer patrol cars, minus officer who was stabbed



equals three officers shooting.  Average of 8 rounds apiece, firing as fast as accurately possible, until it was identified that the threat had stopped.




Throw in stabbing a police officer, and I'm betting shooting time overall was less than 2.5 seconds.  They didn't execute anyone, they executed




proper training.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:07:52 AM EDT
More info and pic of swiss cheese man here.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:09:48 AM EDT
One cop, all those rounds might be overkill. 3+ cops not really overkill.  Each officer likely sees an individual threat and fires to stop the threat resulting in lots of rounds being expended.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:12:59 AM EDT
If you are doing something that warrants getting shot by police...I don't think it really matters how many times you are shot.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:13:24 AM EDT
23 hits isn't at all over the top if you consider multiple officers firing at the same time.  Can't really blame them being liberal with the bullets either. they tried stun gunning him and it failed.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:14:44 AM EDT
Yawn...pulled a knife and stabbed a cop...negative integer fucks given.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:15:39 AM EDT
Would it be wrong for the Police to send the dead's family a bill for the 23 rounds?

Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:15:43 AM EDT
Jones drew a knife and stabbed one officer during a scuffle.
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Is the one on video? If so good shoot. Stab a cop and don't drop the knife when a dozen of his homies show up and your probably going to get deaded.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:17:29 AM EDT
Anything worth shooting once, is worth shooting a bunch of times.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:17:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SteelTalon:
23 on target hits. Thats some good shooting..
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Yeah but they shot 136 times.  
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:19:09 AM EDT
Stupid games...stupid prizes
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:21:38 AM EDT
Stuff happens when you try to murder people.  example A, you get shot 23 times.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:32:08 AM EDT
such force was only used after multiple attempts to subdue Jones with a stun gun failed and Jones became violent, attacking an officer and stabbing him in the torso.

Jones had previously told the officers that he had a weapon, but refused to tell them what it was and also repeatedly ignored commands by the officers.
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I'm not liking the plaintiff's odds on this lawsuit.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:37:08 AM EDT
Isn't that what happens when you stab a cop?
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:38:14 AM EDT
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If they hit the guy 23 times, where did the other 177 rounds go?




ETA:  damn, someone beat me.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:44:58 AM EDT
He was an aspiring rap start cut down in his prime
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:50:03 AM EDT
Only 23 times, shit he doing it wrong, considering a black guy could get shot considerably more times just reaching for his wallet, this guy stabbed a cop, he should have been nuked from orbit! It clearly had to have been something wrong with that guy, most black people KNOW better than to even pull a photo id on a cop let alone a knife!
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 10:02:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RR_Broccoli:
Anything worth shooting once, is worth shooting a bunch of times.
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Link Posted: 4/26/2014 10:04:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SteelTalon:
23 on target hits. Thats some good shooting..
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20 years ago some drunk kid got his birth certificate revoked by the local cops after pointing a real looking BB gun at them during a standoff.

80+ shots. 3 hits.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 10:09:42 AM EDT
So there's some houses and cars with 72 holes in them.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 10:13:17 AM EDT
Sheriff Grady was asked "Why did you shoot him 68 times?"

He replied "Because we ran out of bullets"
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 10:13:42 AM EDT
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I'm not liking the plaintiff's odds on this lawsuit.
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Originally Posted By dbrowne1:
such force was only used after multiple attempts to subdue Jones with a stun gun failed and Jones became violent, attacking an officer and stabbing him in the torso.

Jones had previously told the officers that he had a weapon, but refused to tell them what it was and also repeatedly ignored commands by the officers.


I'm not liking the plaintiff's odds on this lawsuit.


Me neither. In this crazy world there's still a slight chance he might some how win.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 10:15:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By treelow:
Zero fucks given.

If they are worth shooting once, they are worth shooting fifty times. Shoot until the threat stops.
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I tried getting my dander up over it, but in the end what you say is pretty much what I think.

Good shoot.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 10:18:10 AM EDT
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According to police, the officers involved struck Jones twice with stun guns after he became angry and refused to follow orders. The shocks had “little” effect on Jones, who pulled a knife and stabbed one of the officers when they tried to restrain him on the ground, police said. The stab wound was minor and did not require medical attention, police said. The lawsuit indicates the officer was stabbed in the torso with a pocket knife.

Jones was ordered to drop the knife while he still was on the ground. When he did not comply and tried to get up, the officers backed away and fired multiple rounds at him “to neutralize the threat,” according to the police report.

ETA- News Link
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 10:29:26 AM EDT
The number of times the guy got shot is about as relevant as the color pants the guy's mother was wearing.

Either it was a good shoot or it wasn't.  FWIW, from what is in the news story, it certainly sounds like deadly force was warranted.  Stupid media.  
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Originally Posted By Dumpster_Baby:
MARTINSBURG, W.Va. –  An autopsy report says Martinsburg police officers shot a Virginia man 23 times during an altercation in 2013.
The report says Wayne Arnold Jones died from multiple gunshot wounds.
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No way !!!
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 11:35:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Formergrunt94:
Okay, they used the plural "officers" meaning more than one cop shot him.  Assume two two-officer patrol cars, minus officer who was stabbed equals three officers shooting.  Average of 8 rounds apiece, firing as fast as accurately possible, until it was identified that the threat had stopped.  Throw in stabbing a police officer, and I'm betting shooting time overall was less than 2.5 seconds.  They didn't execute anyone, they executed proper training.  
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My oldest sister's first husband was a deputy who was involved in a shooting back around 1970.  Sheriff and three deputies went out on a man with a gun call to a mentally challenged "regular customer".  Like normal the sheriff went to talk to the guy to get him to hand over the shotgun, but that time the guy shot and killed the sheriff.

The deputies turn the shooter into Swiss cheese.

Brother in-law did not remember doing it, but he used both of the speed loaders he carried and only stopped shooting because he was out of ammo.  It was the same for both the other deputies.  Executing proper training in a moment of extreme tension/near panic over seeing their boss get shot.  I'm sure it was the same for the officer who saw their comrade getting stabbed.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 11:37:54 AM EDT
Was it qualification day?

Might as well warm up.

Link Posted: 4/26/2014 11:39:43 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By SteelTalon:


23 on target hits. Thats some good shooting..
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right?







thats like 1,000% better accuracy than any LA LEO involved shooting..  
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 11:40:40 AM EDT
Homeless schizophrenic walking in the street and pulls knife on cops?

Who has a history of killing someone in a bar fight years ago.

(Was reported on the radio today)

Welcome to West Virginia motherfucker.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 3:49:27 PM EDT
Am I supposed to be outraged?   And if so, for who?
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 3:50:08 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:


No matter how good the shoot there is always a lawsuit attached.
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Truer words have never been spoken.

 
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 3:57:46 PM EDT




If you have a knife and get all stabby, don't be surprised if the guy with the gun gets all shooty.


Link Posted: 4/26/2014 4:03:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Extorris:

No way !!!
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Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By Dumpster_Baby:
MARTINSBURG, W.Va. –  An autopsy report says Martinsburg police officers shot a Virginia man 23 times during an altercation in 2013.
The report says Wayne Arnold Jones died from multiple gunshot wounds.

No way !!!


That's it???? Your posts in these threads are usually my favorites. Now I'm off to find a video shot in portrait for you.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 4:05:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By treelow:
Zero fucks given.

If they are worth shooting once, they are worth shooting fifty times. Shoot until the threat stops.
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Yep.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 4:08:33 PM EDT
Problem solved.  Problem staying solved.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 4:09:16 PM EDT
This is what happens when WV allows Virginians to come here.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 4:09:24 PM EDT
Sounds like it was a good shoot.


I used to live near Martinsburg...place is a shithole.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 4:10:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By treelow:
Zero fucks given.

If they are worth shooting once, they are worth shooting fifty times. Shoot until the threat stops.

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What he said, plus he probably deserved it
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