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Bernardo Tignor, 56, pulled a gun on the Opelika police officer who shot and killed him Saturday night, Police Chief John McEachern said today.
Despite McEachern's assertion the shooting was justified, Tignor's brother told the Columbus Ledger-Enquirer the family thinks the shooting was not necessary. Tignor's younger brother, Barnard, said the family has hired attorney Fred Gray and believe the officer, Jared Greer, could have waited for backup. "He got the best of the officer. ... They were involved in a fight, He actually beat the officer," Barnard Tignor said of his brother. "We are pursuing this issue with the lawyers," he said. McEachern, in a statement today, laid out what he says happened in the moments leading up to the shooting: At about 11:50 p.m., Greer, a 3 1/2 year veteran of the department, followed a vehicle from Williamson Avenue onto Marvyn Parkway and then onto Crawford Road. Greer attempted to stop the vehicle for a traffic offense -- the statement does not state the exact offense -- but it continued on until stopping at a private drive just off Comanchee Drive. The driver of the vehicle, later identified as Bernardo Tignor, attempted to enter a residence, but was detained by Greer. "Tignor refused to comply with the officer's commands, and began to resist the attempts by the officer to place him under arrest," the statement read. "At some point during the struggle, Mr. Tignor brandished a small caliber pistol. Officer Greer, fearing for his safety, drew his department issued weapon and fired multiple rounds at Mr. Tignor. McEachern told reporters Tignor has a record of approximately 20 arrests dating back to 1976 for offenses includeing assault, domestic violence, theft, car theft, fraud, writing bad checks, DUIs and menacing. http://www.al.com/news/montgomery/index.ssf/2015/11/opelika_police_shooting.html#incart_river_home Ahhh, the old I made it home, sprint to the door and you can't arrest me deal. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:43:55 AM EST
But I'm only a block away from my house. I only drove to get a pack of cigarettes.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:45:28 AM EST
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter: Bernardo Tignor, 56, pulled a gun on the Opelika police officer who shot and killed him Saturday night, Police Chief John McEachern said today. Despite McEachern's assertion the shooting was justified, Tignor's brother told the Columbus Ledger-Enquirer the family thinks the shooting was not necessary. Tignor's younger brother, Barnard, said the family has hired attorney Fred Gray and believe the officer, Jared Greer, could have waited for backup. "He got the best of the officer. ... They were involved in a fight, He actually beat the officer," Barnard Tignor said of his brother. "We are pursuing this issue with the lawyers," he said. McEachern, in a statement today, laid out what he says happened in the moments leading up to the shooting: At about 11:50 p.m., Greer, a 3 1/2 year veteran of the department, followed a vehicle from Williamson Avenue onto Marvyn Parkway and then onto Crawford Road. Greer attempted to stop the vehicle for a traffic offense -- the statement does not state the exact offense -- but it continued on until stopping at a private drive just off Comanchee Drive. The driver of the vehicle, later identified as Bernardo Tignor, attempted to enter a residence, but was detained by Greer. "Tignor refused to comply with the officer's commands, and began to resist the attempts by the officer to place him under arrest," the statement read. "At some point during the struggle, Mr. Tignor brandished a small caliber pistol. Officer Greer, fearing for his safety, drew his department issued weapon and fired multiple rounds at Mr. Tignor. McEachern told reporters Tignor has a record of approximately 20 arrests dating back to 1976 for offenses includeing assault, domestic violence, theft, car theft, fraud, writing bad checks, DUIs and menacing. http://www.al.com/news/montgomery/index.ssf/2015/11/opelika_police_shooting.html#incart_river_home Ahhh, the old I made it home, sprint to the door and you can't arrest me deal. I'm speechless... |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:47:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/3/2015 8:48:04 AM EST by Rhinodo99]
Barnard Tignor is a fucking idiot, much like his brother used to be.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:50:19 AM EST
Bernard and Bernardo. Very creative partents
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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:52:00 AM EST
So they're not even arguing any of the facts, just that the LEO "could have waited for backup"?
Hope that attorney got a retainer. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:52:58 AM EST
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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:54:13 AM EST
If you get home . The cops have to let you go.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:56:29 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
So they're not even arguing any of the facts, just that the LEO "could have waited for backup"?
Hope that attorney got a retainer. Yea, so more cops could have had target practice on his ass. Mighty thoughtful of them. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:57:02 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By whiskerz:
If you get home . The cops have to let you go. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile This Also, shouting "base" or "safe" has gotten me out of many arrests |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:57:34 AM EST
Sounds like the world is now inhabited by one less moron. Unfortunately, it sounds like his brother Barnyard is more than making up for the loss. Hope the department/city countersue for legal fees.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:58:03 AM EST
That guy is an idiot, I don't know what else COC to say.
And I absolutely love the people who think if they get home they won't go to jail. Or the ones who think if they just get to their house then the police can't impound their car. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:59:54 AM EST
"I am NOT DUI...I made it home and I'm drunk on my own property... and there's nothing illegal about that...hic!"
(Yeah, I actually heard that one night...) |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:01:30 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Zcwilkins: So they're not even arguing any of the facts, just that the LEO "could have waited for backup"? Hope that attorney got a retainer. The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:04:28 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By whiskerz: If you get home . The cops have to let you go. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:04:30 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
So they're not even arguing any of the facts, just that the LEO "could have waited for backup"?
Hope that attorney got a retainer. The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. LOL good shoot. Too bad the brother didn't get hit by the same bullet. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:04:38 AM EST
Good shoot and I hope the officer gets all the backing he deserves.
Hopefully this will end as it should and the officer (and his family) will be fine. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:06:34 AM EST
So, when do we get to roast marshmallows after the BLM burns Opelika?
I'm relatively close, but I'm guessing we should show up after Sunday brunch. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:07:36 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Hunduh:
This Also, shouting "base" or "safe" has gotten me out of many arrests Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunduh:
Originally Posted By whiskerz:
If you get home . The cops have to let you go. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile This Also, shouting "base" or "safe" has gotten me out of many arrests I find that shouting "I KNOW MY RITES" and "YOU CAN'T DO THAT" is also quite effective. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:07:42 AM EST
Cha Ching!
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:09:35 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
So they're not even arguing any of the facts, just that the LEO "could have waited for backup"?
Hope that attorney got a retainer. The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Not quite. The new recommended procedure upon facing an armed suspect is to wrap your head with a towel so that you cannot see him, and hope he has the wits of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:13:30 AM EST
"He got the best of the officer. ... They were involved in a fight, He actually beat the officer," Barnard Tignor said of his brother. "We are pursuing this issue with the lawyers," he said. Apparently idiot brother didn't get the memo. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:13:57 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By scotchymcdrinkerbean:
Not quite. The new recommended procedure upon facing an armed suspect is to wrap your head with a towel so that you cannot see him, and hope he has the wits of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By scotchymcdrinkerbean:
Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
So they're not even arguing any of the facts, just that the LEO "could have waited for backup"?
Hope that attorney got a retainer. The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Not quite. The new recommended procedure upon facing an armed suspect is to wrap your head with a towel so that you cannot see him, and hope he has the wits of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal. Yep, we just added this to our policy. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:16:16 AM EST
That seems pretty cut and dry to me.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:17:18 AM EST
Guy sounds like a real winner.
ZFG |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:18:13 AM EST
Base!
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:19:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/3/2015 9:19:33 AM EST by Keib]
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:19:31 AM EST
"He got the best of the officer. ... They were involved in a fight, He actually beat the officer," Barnard Tignor said of his brother.
This is, uh, not a statement I would make to the press if you're trying to blame the officer. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:19:54 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By scotchymcdrinkerbean:
Not quite. The new recommended procedure upon facing an armed suspect is to wrap your head with a towel so that you cannot see him, and hope he has the wits of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By scotchymcdrinkerbean:
Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
So they're not even arguing any of the facts, just that the LEO "could have waited for backup"?
Hope that attorney got a retainer. The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Not quite. The new recommended procedure upon facing an armed suspect is to wrap your head with a towel so that you cannot see him, and hope he has the wits of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal. Good reference for so early in the day. 
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:21:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/3/2015 9:22:39 AM EST by cochraneap]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
So they're not even arguing any of the facts, just that the LEO "could have waited for backup"?
Hope that attorney got a retainer. The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Correct. The bad guy has to shoot first. At least that's what I've been told by several bad guys. Simply pointing a gun at a police officer and saying you're going to kill him is "Freedom of Speech." |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:24:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/3/2015 9:26:46 AM EST by Extorris]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cochraneap:
Correct. The bad guy has to shoot first. At least that's what I've been told by several bad guys. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cochraneap:
Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Correct. The bad guy has to shoot first. At least that's what I've been told by several bad guys. I've seen that ROE for LEOs suggested by people here in GD. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:24:43 AM EST
The family will sue. They will probably lose (you never know with juries) but it will still cost the city a crapload of money. I wonder what they thought a backup officer could do?
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:25:49 AM EST
What lawyer was freaking dumb enough to take that case? No, seriously. I want to know so I never end up with him representing me for anything. Fucking idiot.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:28:44 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Bones45:
The family will sue. They will probably lose (you never know with juries) but it will still cost the city a crapload of money. I wonder what they thought a backup officer could do? The lawyers who represent these bullshit cases need to be made to start paying the legal fees for the defense when they lose. Maybe if they were held responsible there wouldn't even be these monumentally stupid cases in the first place. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:30:16 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By MeatBag:
Bernard and Bernardo. Very creative partents You mean Bernadette and Bernardino? |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:31:13 AM EST
Tignor's younger brother, Barnard, said the family has hired attorney Fred Gray and believe the officer, Jared Greer, could have waited for backup. "He got the best of the officer. ... They were involved in a fight, He actually beat the officer," Barnard Tignor said of his brother. "We are pursuing this issue with the lawyers," he said |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:37:05 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Extorris:
I've seen that ROE for LEOs suggested by people here in GD. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By cochraneap:
Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Correct. The bad guy has to shoot first. At least that's what I've been told by several bad guys. I've seen that ROE for LEOs suggested by people here in GD. Which contradicts GD's belief that all cops are Barney Fifes who know nothing about guns, never train, and can't hit the broadside of a barn. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:40:16 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Extorris:
Good reference for so early in the day. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By scotchymcdrinkerbean:
Not quite. The new recommended procedure upon facing an armed suspect is to wrap your head with a towel so that you cannot see him, and hope he has the wits of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal. Good reference for so early in the day. Needed a Babblefish to understand that one. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:40:30 AM EST
Two brothers named Barnard and Bernardo? What imaginative parents.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:43:18 AM EST
In what universe does the family think the dead suspect was justified in any of that?
Good riddance to bad trash. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:43:40 AM EST
If that's the whole story they are gonna have trouble finding an attorney dumb enough to take their "case". Good shoot.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:45:39 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Dana1972: If that's the whole story they are gonna have trouble finding an attorney dumb enough to take their "case". Good shoot. They found one.... ...the family has hired attorney Fred Gray... |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:47:19 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Extorris:
I've seen that ROE for LEOs suggested by people here in GD. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By cochraneap:
Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Correct. The bad guy has to shoot first. At least that's what I've been told by several bad guys. I've seen that ROE for LEOs suggested by people here in GD. Thats as bad as "he could have shot him in the leg" or the " shoot the gun out of his hand" idiot family members that often make statements in these stories. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:48:12 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Dana1972:
Thats as bad as "he could have shot him in the leg" or the " shoot the gun out of his hand" idiot family members that often make statements in these stories. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dana1972:
Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By cochraneap:
Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Correct. The bad guy has to shoot first. At least that's what I've been told by several bad guys. I've seen that ROE for LEOs suggested by people here in GD. Thats as bad as "he could have shot him in the leg" or the " shoot the gun out of his hand" idiot family members that often make statements in these stories. You mean Ben Carson? |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:48:26 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By whiskerz:
If you get home . The cops have to let you go. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yeah.... NO. We dont. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:48:33 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Dana1972:
If that's the whole story they are gonna have trouble finding an attorney dumb enough to take their "case". Good shoot. They've already found him, or he found them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Gray_(attorney) I'm pretty sure that's the same guy. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:49:10 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By flynhghr2001:
They found one.... ...the family has hired attorney Fred Gray... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flynhghr2001:
Originally Posted By Dana1972:
If that's the whole story they are gonna have trouble finding an attorney dumb enough to take their "case". Good shoot. They found one.... ...the family has hired attorney Fred Gray... I wonder if they've started shopping for legal representation yet. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:50:00 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By flynhghr2001:
They found one.... ...the family has hired attorney Fred Gray... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flynhghr2001:
Originally Posted By Dana1972:
If that's the whole story they are gonna have trouble finding an attorney dumb enough to take their "case". Good shoot. They found one.... ...the family has hired attorney Fred Gray... Yep I skimmed right over that fact. Thanks, Fred "dumbass" Gray, Esquire is on the case. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:50:40 AM EST
One does not simply "beat" an officer and "win".
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:52:43 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Extorris:
I've seen that ROE for LEOs suggested by people here in GD. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By cochraneap:
Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Correct. The bad guy has to shoot first. At least that's what I've been told by several bad guys. I've seen that ROE for LEOs suggested by people here in GD. And yet when Han is edited to NOT shoot first, those same individuals are screaming their heads off at Lucas, go figure. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:52:51 AM EST
"He got the best of the officer. ... They were involved in a fight, He actually beat the officer," Barnard Tignor said of his brother.
Well then, it looks like Bernardo won. Let's go to the replay booth. Yep, 1st and 10 for Bernardo. Bernardo? You here? |
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