Warning

 

Close
Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Cancel Confirm
AR15.COM
8/11/2013 10:24:27 AM EDT
Not a GD type discussion.  Please delete the thread.
8/11/2013 8:44:35 AM EDT
[#1]
Friends I have in LE often say the choice for a factory weapon is driven by price and seldom mods the operator can do are restricted and for liability reasons.officers if they are allowed to use their own private purchase weapon it has to be factory assembled for liability reasons and smaller police departments dont have their own armorers so they have to depend on the manufacturerfor support and service.

I remember about 7 years ago here a member purchased a smith&wesson AR and it came with a chromelined 1/7 14.5 barrel he was later told those barrels are only meant for LEO weapons only.I dont know if it holds true now if there LE rifle is different than the commercial offering.Police depts can even get lend-lease M16s and some depts just change the barrel and put on a telestock while locking out FA function with a semi only saftey.
8/11/2013 8:45:42 AM EDT
[#2]
Why are we still visiting this in tech??? Take this to GD..
8/11/2013 8:48:29 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Why are we still visiting this in tech??? Take this to GD..
View Quote


Because it is a technical question?  If you don't want to read it, don't open it.
8/11/2013 8:57:29 AM EDT
[#4]
Hes asking what criteria rifles are chosen for LE it is a tech question as features and function go into that decision making process..I agree it is a tech question.If theres no problem when a new member chimes in and says hi to the site with a picture of their rifle with no question then this should be acceptable or start a section for "meet and greet" threads because those shouldnt be posted here in a tech forum.
8/11/2013 9:03:53 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Hes asking what criteria rifles are chosen for LE it is a tech question as features and function go into that decision making process..I agree it is a tech question.If theres no problem when a new member chimes in and says hi to the site with a picture of their rifle with no question then this should be acceptable or start a section for "meet and greet" threads because those shouldnt be posted here in a tech forum.
View Quote



There are "meet and greet" forums called Team and GD...but you can't get into Team, can you?
8/11/2013 9:12:35 AM EDT
[#6]
obviously not im not a team member as u can see I dont need that title as the status symbol you obviously take it for with your comment when you can plainly see im not a TEAM MEMBER, my point is people chime in here in tech with greetings and a picture and nothing is said when its not a technical question just a pic and a Hi all.Thats my point if your gonna get hung up on what is and whats not tech then there are other threads that are let go that shouldnt be here.
8/11/2013 9:15:51 AM EDT
[#7]
I agree that it's a tech question, and I'm also curious to hear answers if anybody has insight.
8/11/2013 9:18:50 AM EDT
[#8]
Let me spell it out for the retards.  What technical aspects of the S&W AR lead that department to choose them over other rifle brands?  If there are none specifically, and the decision was made based on other criteria, I am sure someone on this board knows, and that would be the end of the technical discussion.

If you don't know, or don't have a logical interjection, make like the alphabet and C your way out of the conversation.
8/11/2013 9:22:49 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Hes asking what criteria rifles are chosen for LE it is a tech question as features and function go into that decision making process..I agree it is a tech question.If theres no problem when a new member chimes in and says hi to the site with a picture of their rifle with no question then this should be acceptable or start a section for "meet and greet" threads because those shouldnt be posted here in a tech forum.
View Quote



There are "meet and greet" forums called Team and GD...but you can't get into Team, can you?
View Quote


Dickish comment is dickish.
8/11/2013 9:57:20 AM EDT
[#10]
I can see a hundred reasons this might be technical, but it also might not be...

What I mean is;

Doe that Dept already have some sort of controlling contract with Smith that might require them to purchase Smith rifles?  Could have been signed for when they got pistols for example.

Now, what the tech requirements were then or now is unknown to me but it would be a totally legit technical question both to ask...and answer.

I'd like to know, also.

I have a Smith M&P15, regular 16" bbl with brake to 17.5" and in that guise would make an ok patrol rifle I would think.

And by the way...what really shocked me was that they didn't ALREADY HAVE some sort of stadard issue patrol rifle.  Hell, our Sheriff's Dept has patrol rifles, albeit old National Guard handmedown full auto A1's, but they could sure do worse!!
8/11/2013 10:01:30 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Let me spell it out for the retards.  What technical aspects of the S&W AR lead that department to choose them over other rifle brands?  If there are none specifically, and the decision was made based on other criteria, I am sure someone on this board knows, and that would be the end of the technical discussion.

If you don't know, or don't have a logical interjection, make like the alphabet and C your way out of the conversation.
View Quote



LOL retards.
8/11/2013 10:02:45 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Let me spell it out for the retards.  What technical aspects of the S&W AR lead that department to choose them over other rifle brands?  If there are none specifically, and the decision was made based on other criteria, I am sure someone on this board knows, and that would be the end of the technical discussion.

If you don't know, or don't have a logical interjection, make like the alphabet and C your way out of the conversation.
View Quote


No need for name calling.  That's how threads get locked prematurely.
8/11/2013 10:07:56 AM EDT
[#13]
Maybe there was no technical reason. He seems older and the Smith is a known decent rifle and Smith revolvers have a very long history in Law enforcement across the country. It could be just that simple, he bought what he was familiar with.
8/11/2013 10:12:54 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Maybe there was no technical reason. He seems older and the Smith is a known decent rifle and Smith revolvers have a very long history in Law enforcement across the country. It could be just that simple, he bought what he was familiar with.
View Quote


In a way, I hate to admit it, but that is EXACTLY the reason I bought an M&P15 without really researching them too much.

Joe is a little older than me, but my long past experiences with Smith sold me before I handed over the coin.
8/11/2013 10:28:37 AM EDT
[#15]
I don't know about Maricopa County, but we changed to S&W from HK. HK service went to shit, and S&W offered a good deal on warranty and service.
8/11/2013 10:29:35 AM EDT
[#16]
There are plenty of LE trials that have been done with the S&W M&P series carbines, and they have done very well.  While they might not be the "best", they still do very good, and when you combine that with the outstanding agency price that Smith & Wesson offers, you are going to see them issued in many places.  

S&W district reps are aware of the departments that have done extensive testing, and are able to give a list for departments to check out.
8/11/2013 10:34:44 AM EDT
[#17]
Lemme ask this - why dies it bother you that they chose S&W? Smith makes a perfectly good and functional AR, which puts lead downrange as well as any. OP, do you have a hardon for Smith?

I'm sure a lot of departments can't justify paying the prices for "custom" rifles, and buying commercially available weapons from known and respected mfr's just makes good sense.
8/11/2013 10:41:32 AM EDT
[#18]
Don't know why the choice of S&W (aside from price/low bid), but he paid for them with cash recovered from busted dope dealers
8/11/2013 11:32:18 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote History
Quoted:
Lemme ask this - why dies it bother you that they chose S&W? Smith makes a perfectly good and functional AR, which puts lead downrange as well as any. OP, do you have a hardon for Smith?

I'm sure a lot of departments can't justify paying the prices for "custom" rifles, and buying commercially available weapons from known and respected mfr's just makes good sense.
View Quote



Who the fuck said anything about being bothered about the decision?  Do you how to read?  It was a simple question, and nobody said departments should only buy high end custom rifles.
8/11/2013 11:35:57 AM EDT
[#20]
8/11/2013 11:56:59 AM EDT
[#21]
Not today        
 
8/11/2013 11:58:49 AM EDT
[#22]
Mods are asleep post boobs.
8/11/2013 12:03:18 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote History
Quoted:
Mods are asleep post boobs.
View Quote


That would be such an improvement
8/11/2013 12:04:09 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote History
Quoted:
Mods are asleep post boobs.
View Quote


Weekends off
8/11/2013 12:05:43 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote History
Quoted:


Weekends off
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Mods are asleep post boobs.


Weekends off



 Nope fixing and washing the Yugo.
8/11/2013 12:09:47 PM EDT
[#26]
IBTL
8/11/2013 12:10:56 PM EDT
[#27]
8/11/2013 12:11:36 PM EDT
[#28]
Que        
 
8/11/2013 12:11:47 PM EDT
[#29]
Que        
 
 
 
8/11/2013 12:16:19 PM EDT
[#30]
Damn threads gone wild.
8/11/2013 12:19:00 PM EDT
[#31]
No way
8/11/2013 12:21:08 PM EDT
[#32]
8/11/2013 12:23:15 PM EDT
[#33]
OP request