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Posted: 11/22/2008 10:09:03 AM EDT

My second cousins best friend worked with a guy who's sisters ex boyfriend has an uncle who just bought a Colt 16" M4 upper to put on his Bushmaster lower. He was so proud he slept with it the first night. Then he started seeing the word "M4forgery" and some of the wind came out of his sails. Now he's not sure if he's cool or just another retard. Whaddaya think ? Seeing as the real deal is illegal where he lives how could he do any better ?
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 10:10:22 AM EDT
Its just a term for a AR-15 carbine so that people don't go "OMG YOU'VE GOT A REAL M4! DOES IT SHOOT FULL AUTO!!?!!!"

Nothing negative about it.
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 10:10:27 AM EDT
lol, unless its a 14.5 FN fullauto, then its a M4.  Everything else is just a clone.  But im ok with that.
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 10:12:01 AM EDT
Just a term, nothing for a grown man to get excited about.
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 10:12:55 AM EDT
M4-orgery is a term of indearment.
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 10:14:13 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Jrock82:
M4-orgery is a term of indearment.


+1
or M4 Clone
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 10:14:43 AM EDT
Originally Posted By colklink:
Just a term, nothing for a grown man to get excited about.



Grown man is the key phrase here. I think it may even be an oxymoron.

Link Posted: 11/22/2008 10:14:51 AM EDT

I remember something about that term having to do with a lawsuit about the "M4" name, and people calling a non-Colt an "M4gery" as a reaction to that.
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 10:15:34 AM EDT
I call mine 'poser gun'
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 10:17:17 AM EDT
Mine's a Bushmaster, not a Colt.  Mine's semi-auto, instead of full-auto.  Therefore, mine is an M4gery, and I still love it.
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 10:32:29 AM EDT
Colt does not own the M4 name like they do AR15 so why anyone would call a non-colt M4 a "M4forgery" is beyond me.
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 10:42:05 AM EDT
I have a Bushy M4gery made in 2002 with the Mini-Y comp. I can't even shoot it because it makes my ears bleed.
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 10:44:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2008 10:44:28 AM EDT by Aimless]
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 10:46:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By NextOfKin:
I have a Bushy M4gery made in 2002 with the Mini-Y comp. I can't even shoot it because it makes my ears bleed.


So get the mini Y-Comp removed. I did.
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 11:03:54 AM EDT
Everyone is close but nobody gave the full answer yet. (In my opinion)
It is semi auto as has been said but a real M$ also has the 14 1/2" barrel.  Us civillians have to have a 16" barrel for the most part.  Hence the Forgery part.
If it has a 16" barrel it is not an M4.  If it is semi-auto it is not an M4.
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 11:05:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By NextOfKin:
I have a Bushy M4gery made in 2002 with the Mini-Y comp. I can't even shoot it because it makes my ears bleed.


You're not in an AWB state so I would strongly recommend sending the upper to ADCO and replacing the Mini-Y comp with a flash hider.  They make my teeth rattle.  I have a Krinkov and AK's with '74 style brakes and they are nothing compared to the Y comp on an AR.
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 11:05:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sum-rifle:
Everyone is close but nobody gave the full answer yet. (In my opinion)
It is semi auto as has been said but a real M$ also has the 14 1/2" barrel.  Us civillians have to have a 16" barrel for the most part.  Hence the Forgery part.
If it has a 16" barrel it is not an M4.  If it is semi-auto it is not an M4.


second post in
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 11:13:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2008 11:14:41 AM EDT by MichiganMafia]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_carbine













Trademark issues





Colt has held a US trademark on the word "M4"
Many manufacturers produce firearms that come very close in terms of
appearance to a military M4, sometimes colloquially referred to as an
"M4gery" ,a portmanteau
of "M4" and "forgery"). Colt has maintained that it retains sole rights
to the M4 name and design. Other manufacturers had long maintained that
Colt had been overstating their rights — "M4" has now become more of a
generic term for a shortened M16/AR-15. In April 2004, Colt filed a
lawsuit against Heckler & Koch and Bushmaster Firearms, claiming acts of trademark infringement, trade dress infringement, trademark dilution, false designation of origin, false advertising, patent infringement, unfair competition, and deceptive trade practices. Heckler & Koch later settled out of court, changing one product's name from "HK M4" to "HK416". However, on 8 December 2005, a District court judge in Maine granted a summary judgment
in favor of Bushmaster Firearms, dismissing all of Colt's claims except
for false advertising. On the latter claim, Colt could not recover
monetary damages. More importantly, the court ruled that "M4" was now a
generic name, and that Colt's trademark should be revoked.







 
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 11:16:18 AM EDT
Doesn't a Colt 6920 say M4 right on the receiver?
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 11:18:12 AM EDT
M4forgery...



That have something to do with a mosin nagant?




Link Posted: 11/22/2008 11:21:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2008 1:12:55 PM EDT by DoberDude]
Originally Posted By sum-rifle:
Everyone is close but nobody gave the full answer yet. (In my opinion)
It is semi auto as has been said but a real M$ also has the 14 1/2" barrel.  Us civillians have to have a 16" barrel for the most part.  Hence the Forgery part.
If it has a 16" barrel it is not an M4.  If it is semi-auto it is not an M4.





Link Posted: 11/22/2008 11:22:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2008 11:22:52 AM EDT by DoberDude]
Originally Posted By ampn:
Doesn't a Colt 6920 say M4 right on the receiver?


Yes. It does say M4 on it but it is 16"..... ??? I thought the real M4 was 14.5".

Link Posted: 11/22/2008 12:06:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2008 12:07:30 PM EDT by drfcolt]
Originally Posted By gaspain:
lol, unless its a 14.5 FN fullauto, then its a M4.  Everything else is just a clone.  But im ok with that.


Colt makes the M4 for the military, not FN.

FN supplies the M16-A2/3/4/......

Link Posted: 11/22/2008 12:14:07 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DoberDude:
Originally Posted By ampn:
Doesn't a Colt 6920 say M4 right on the receiver?


Yes. It does say M4 on it but it is 16"..... ??? I thought the real M4 was 14.5".



Ok, how about a 6921?
M4 is the military classification AND Colt's name for variations of their AR15's.  
That makes me wonder––is my frankengun "M4" type carbine an "AR15"?  It's not a Colt.[>:/]

This BS is confusing.  We need an new name for these guns.
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 12:17:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2008 1:12:30 PM EDT by DoberDude]
Originally Posted By DoberDude:
Originally Posted By ampn:
Doesn't a Colt 6920 say M4 right on the receiver?[/di





Link Posted: 11/22/2008 1:31:54 PM EDT


Originally Posted By gaspain:


lol, unless its a 14.5 FN fullauto, then its a M4.  Everything else is just a clone.  But im ok with that.


Colt makes the M4, FN makes the M16s.



 
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 1:34:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DoberDude:
My second cousins best friend worked with a guy who's sisters ex boyfriend has an uncle who just bought a Colt 16" M4 upper to put on his Bushmaster lower. He was so proud he slept with it the first night. Then he started seeing the word "M4forgery" and some of the wind came out of his sails. Now he's not sure if he's cool or just another retard. Whaddaya think ? Seeing as the real deal is illegal where he lives how could he do any better ?


Come from a small town, do ya?
Link Posted: 11/22/2008 1:38:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Bed_Head:
Mine's a Bushmaster, not a Colt.  Mine's semi-auto, instead of full-auto.  Therefore, mine is an M4gery, and I still love it.


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