Please define "M4forgery"...is it a bad thing ?

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Please define "M4forgery"...is it a bad thing ?

Posted: 11/22/2008 10:09:03 AM EDT

My second cousins best friend worked with a guy who's sisters ex boyfriend has an uncle who just bought a Colt 16" M4 upper to put on his Bushmaster lower. He was so proud he slept with it the first night. Then he started seeing the word "M4forgery" and some of the wind came out of his sails. Now he's not sure if he's cool or just another retard. Whaddaya think ? Seeing as the real deal is illegal where he lives how could he do any better ?

Posted: 11/22/2008 10:10:22 AM EDT

[#1]

Its just a term for a AR-15 carbine so that people don't go "OMG YOU'VE GOT A REAL M4! DOES IT SHOOT FULL AUTO!!?!!!"

Nothing negative about it.

Posted: 11/22/2008 10:10:27 AM EDT

[#2]

lol, unless its a 14.5 FN fullauto, then its a M4. Everything else is just a clone. But im ok with that.

Posted: 11/22/2008 10:12:01 AM EDT

[#3]

Just a term, nothing for a grown man to get excited about.

Posted: 11/22/2008 10:12:55 AM EDT

[#4]

M4-orgery is a term of indearment.

Posted: 11/22/2008 10:14:13 AM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
M4-orgery is a term of indearment.

+1
or M4 Clone

Posted: 11/22/2008 10:14:43 AM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
Just a term, nothing for a grown man to get excited about.

Grown man is the key phrase here. I think it may even be an oxymoron.

Posted: 11/22/2008 10:14:51 AM EDT

[#7]

I remember something about that term having to do with a lawsuit about the "M4" name, and people calling a non-Colt an "M4gery" as a reaction to that.

Posted: 11/22/2008 10:15:34 AM EDT

[#8]

I call mine 'poser gun'

Posted: 11/22/2008 10:17:17 AM EDT

[#9]

Mine's a Bushmaster, not a Colt. Mine's semi-auto, instead of full-auto. Therefore, mine is an M4gery, and I still love it.

Posted: 11/22/2008 10:32:29 AM EDT

[#10]

Colt does not own the M4 name like they do AR15 so why anyone would call a non-colt M4 a "M4forgery" is beyond me.

Posted: 11/22/2008 10:42:05 AM EDT

[#11]

I have a Bushy M4gery made in 2002 with the Mini-Y comp. I can't even shoot it because it makes my ears bleed.

Posted: 11/22/2008 10:44:04 AM EDT

[#12]

just means it's a semi auto AR with collapsible stock and m-4 profile barrel. I don't know why he would be ashamed. I have one that has served me well and although it's not in the bed, it's pretty damn close.

Posted: 11/22/2008 10:46:39 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
I have a Bushy M4gery made in 2002 with the Mini-Y comp. I can't even shoot it because it makes my ears bleed.

So get the mini Y-Comp removed. I did.

Posted: 11/22/2008 11:03:54 AM EDT

[#14]

Everyone is close but nobody gave the full answer yet. (In my opinion)
It is semi auto as has been said but a real M$ also has the 14 1/2" barrel. Us civillians have to have a 16" barrel for the most part. Hence the Forgery part.
If it has a 16" barrel it is not an M4. If it is semi-auto it is not an M4.

Posted: 11/22/2008 11:05:25 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
I have a Bushy M4gery made in 2002 with the Mini-Y comp. I can't even shoot it because it makes my ears bleed.

You're not in an AWB state so I would strongly recommend sending the upper to ADCO and replacing the Mini-Y comp with a flash hider. They make my teeth rattle. I have a Krinkov and AK's with '74 style brakes and they are nothing compared to the Y comp on an AR.

Posted: 11/22/2008 11:05:34 AM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
Everyone is close but nobody gave the full answer yet. (In my opinion)
It is semi auto as has been said but a real M$ also has the 14 1/2" barrel. Us civillians have to have a 16" barrel for the most part. Hence the Forgery part.
If it has a 16" barrel it is not an M4. If it is semi-auto it is not an M4.

second post in

Posted: 11/22/2008 11:13:35 AM EDT

[#17]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_carbine

Trademark issues

Colt has held a US trademark on the word "M4"
Many manufacturers produce firearms that come very close in terms of
appearance to a military M4, sometimes colloquially referred to as an
"M4gery" ,a portmanteau
of "M4" and "forgery"). Colt has maintained that it retains sole rights
to the M4 name and design. Other manufacturers had long maintained that
Colt had been overstating their rights — "M4" has now become more of a
generic term for a shortened M16/AR-15. In April 2004, Colt filed a
lawsuit against Heckler & Koch and Bushmaster Firearms, claiming acts of trademark infringement, trade dress infringement, trademark dilution, false designation of origin, false advertising, patent infringement, unfair competition, and deceptive trade practices. Heckler & Koch later settled out of court, changing one product's name from "HK M4" to "HK416". However, on 8 December 2005, a District court judge in Maine granted a summary judgment
in favor of Bushmaster Firearms, dismissing all of Colt's claims except
for false advertising. On the latter claim, Colt could not recover
monetary damages. More importantly, the court ruled that "M4" was now a
generic name, and that Colt's trademark should be revoked.

Posted: 11/22/2008 11:16:18 AM EDT

[#18]

Doesn't a Colt 6920 say M4 right on the receiver?

Posted: 11/22/2008 11:18:12 AM EDT

[#19]

M4forgery...

That have something to do with a mosin nagant?

Posted: 11/22/2008 11:21:08 AM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
Everyone is close but nobody gave the full answer yet. (In my opinion)
It is semi auto as has been said but a real M$ also has the 14 1/2" barrel. Us civillians have to have a 16" barrel for the most part. Hence the Forgery part.
If it has a 16" barrel it is not an M4. If it is semi-auto it is not an M4.

Posted: 11/22/2008 11:22:22 AM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
Doesn't a Colt 6920 say M4 right on the receiver?

Yes. It does say M4 on it but it is 16"..... ??? I thought the real M4 was 14.5".

Posted: 11/22/2008 12:06:18 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
lol, unless its a 14.5 FN fullauto, then its a M4. Everything else is just a clone. But im ok with that.

Colt makes the M4 for the military, not FN.

FN supplies the M16-A2/3/4/......

Posted: 11/22/2008 12:14:07 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Doesn't a Colt 6920 say M4 right on the receiver?

Yes. It does say M4 on it but it is 16"..... ??? I thought the real M4 was 14.5".

Ok, how about a 6921?

M4 is the military classification AND Colt's name for variations of their AR15's.
That makes me wonder––is my frankengun "M4" type carbine an "AR15"? It's not a Colt.[>:/]

This BS is confusing. We need an new name for these guns.

Posted: 11/22/2008 12:17:05 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Doesn't a Colt 6920 say M4 right on the receiver?[/di

Posted: 11/22/2008 1:31:54 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

lol, unless its a 14.5 FN fullauto, then its a M4. Everything else is just a clone. But im ok with that.

Colt makes the M4, FN makes the M16s.

Posted: 11/22/2008 1:34:13 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:
My second cousins best friend worked with a guy who's sisters ex boyfriend has an uncle who just bought a Colt 16" M4 upper to put on his Bushmaster lower. He was so proud he slept with it the first night. Then he started seeing the word "M4forgery" and some of the wind came out of his sails. Now he's not sure if he's cool or just another retard. Whaddaya think ? Seeing as the real deal is illegal where he lives how could he do any better ?

Come from a small town, do ya?

Posted: 11/22/2008 1:38:56 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
Mine's a Bushmaster, not a Colt. Mine's semi-auto, instead of full-auto. Therefore, mine is an M4gery, and I still love it.

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