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Posted: 10/28/2013 1:32:55 PM EST

PD: church youth leader sexually involved with teen

  • Updated: Monday, October 28, 2013, 2:14 PM EDT
  • Published: Monday, October 28, 2013, 2:14 PM EDT
NEW CANAAN, Conn. (WTNH) -- A 25-year-old church youth group leader was arrested for allegedly having a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old boy, police said.

Morgan V. Frawley turned herself in to New Canaan Police Friday.

According to police, in late April they received a report from the Department of Children and Families regarding reports that Fawley, who was a group leader at the Congregational Church of New Canaan, was having an inappropriate sexual relationship with a 15-year-old youth.


http://www.wtnh.com/news/crime/pd-church-youth-leader-sexually-involved-with-teen
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:33:44 PM EST
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Guilty/ish
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Would

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No way, would wear her ho-ho as a hocky mask.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:37:10 PM EST
Absolutely disgusting.
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Opsec - the boy did not have it.

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Absolutely disgusting.
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Sep 2013, almost 1000 posts. Of course you don't like females. If it was a blog you'd be all over it.
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Sep 2013, almost 1000 posts. Of course you don't like females. If it was a blog you'd be all over it.
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Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Absolutely disgusting.


Sep 2013, almost 1000 posts. Of course you don't like females. If it was a blog you'd be all over it.


Not her, the whole scenario. An adult molesting a child like that is just proof of how sick our country is.
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Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:


Not her, the whole scenario. An adult molesting a child like that is just proof of how sick our country is.
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Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Originally Posted By ReconB4:
Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Absolutely disgusting.


Sep 2013, almost 1000 posts. Of course you don't like females. If it was a blog you'd be all over it.


Not her, the whole scenario. An adult molesting a child like that is just proof of how sick our country is.

And this is his 1000th post.
I remember when I was 15.

13er!
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Not fantastic, but not bad.


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I got laid at 15.

I'm giving her a +3 mugshot mulligan.

Not guilty.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:55:42 PM EST
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Is it +2 or +3 for a mug shot picture?


ETA: 28 seconds must be +3
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I would give it to her.


ETA: Where are the internet white knights?
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:56:52 PM EST
According to the insurance industry, all churches have a problem with this. It is not significantly worse in the RC church than it is in protestant churches.
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I got laid at 15.

I'm giving her a +3 mugshot mulligan.

Not guilty.
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Originally Posted By Subnet:
Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Absolutely disgusting.
I got laid at 15.

I'm giving her a +3 mugshot mulligan.

Not guilty.


By a pedophile?
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By a pedophile?
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Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Originally Posted By Subnet:
Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Absolutely disgusting.
I got laid at 15.

I'm giving her a +3 mugshot mulligan.

Not guilty.


By a pedophile?
At 15, it's not pedophelia. Technically.

He's well into puberty.
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By a pedophile?
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Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Originally Posted By Subnet:
Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Absolutely disgusting.
I got laid at 15.

I'm giving her a +3 mugshot mulligan.

Not guilty.


By a pedophile?


INB4 Debate.

She is not a pedophile though.

That would imply before puberty.
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Not her, the whole scenario. An adult molesting a child like that is just proof of how sick our country is.
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Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Originally Posted By ReconB4:
Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Absolutely disgusting.


Sep 2013, almost 1000 posts. Of course you don't like females. If it was a blog you'd be all over it.


Not her, the whole scenario. An adult molesting a child like that is just proof of how sick our country is.

I remember when you first posted how pedos are people too. "How can we judge someone just because they are different." My favorite was your close pedo friend that never acted on it and how very confused he was.


So please let me call
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Originally Posted By discworld717:

I remember when you first posted how pedos are people too. "How can we judge someone just because they are different." My favorite was your close pedo friend that never acted on it and how very confused he was.


So olease let me call
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Originally Posted By discworld717:
Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Originally Posted By ReconB4:
Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Absolutely disgusting.


Sep 2013, almost 1000 posts. Of course you don't like females. If it was a blog you'd be all over it.


Not her, the whole scenario. An adult molesting a child like that is just proof of how sick our country is.

I remember when you first posted how pedos are people too. "How can we judge someone just because they are different." My favorite was your close pedo friend that never acted on it and how very confused he was.


So olease let me call


Pedos are people too. When they molest children though, that's bad. Attraction is not a crime. Molestation is.
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By a pedophile?
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Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Originally Posted By Subnet:
Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Absolutely disgusting.
I got laid at 15.

I'm giving her a +3 mugshot mulligan.

Not guilty.


By a pedophile?



You should probably look up what that word means before you start using it.
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Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:


Pedos are people too. When they molest children though, that's bad. Attraction is not a crime. Molestation is.
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Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Originally Posted By discworld717:
Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Originally Posted By ReconB4:
Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Absolutely disgusting.


Sep 2013, almost 1000 posts. Of course you don't like females. If it was a blog you'd be all over it.


Not her, the whole scenario. An adult molesting a child like that is just proof of how sick our country is.

I remember when you first posted how pedos are people too. "How can we judge someone just because they are different." My favorite was your close pedo friend that never acted on it and how very confused he was.


So olease let me call


Pedos are people too. When they molest children though, that's bad. Attraction is not a crime. Molestation is.



Bullets don't kill people. The rapid evacuation of the Brain from the skull does.
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Originally Posted By Subnet:
At 15, it's not pedophelia. Technically.

He's well into puberty.
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Originally Posted By Subnet:
Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Originally Posted By Subnet:
Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Absolutely disgusting.
I got laid at 15.

I'm giving her a +3 mugshot mulligan.

Not guilty.


By a pedophile?
At 15, it's not pedophelia. Technically.

He's well into puberty.


Really I'm just curious about peoples' reactions to these kinds of stories. What topics get the "downfall of America" posts, what topics get the "would smash" posts, etc.
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I realize this sounds pedantic, but the woman in this story is not, by definition, a pedophile.

And I really get the impression that the encounter was consensual. It sure as shit would have been, when I was 15.
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Really I'm just curious about peoples' reactions to these kinds of stories. What topics get the "downfall of America" posts, what topics get the "would smash" posts, etc.
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You'll note that I'm not one of those who makes the "downfall of America" posts.
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Did that mean something to you?

What's the difference between attraction and action?
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OMGOD, THE DOWNFALL OF AMERICA IS UPON US!
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Really I'm just curious about peoples' reactions to these kinds of stories. What topics get the "downfall of America" posts, what topics get the "would smash" posts, etc.
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Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Originally Posted By Subnet:
Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Originally Posted By Subnet:
Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Absolutely disgusting.
I got laid at 15.

I'm giving her a +3 mugshot mulligan.

Not guilty.


By a pedophile?
At 15, it's not pedophelia. Technically.

He's well into puberty.


Really I'm just curious about peoples' reactions to these kinds of stories. What topics get the "downfall of America" posts, what topics get the "would smash" posts, etc.



That would be obama care, topics about obamas foreign policy or lack thereof, hell pretty much anything about obama and his voting base. Some 15 year old bumping uglies with a 25 year old is not a blip on the radar.
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You'll note that I'm not one of those who makes the "downfall of America" posts.
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Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Really I'm just curious about peoples' reactions to these kinds of stories. What topics get the "downfall of America" posts, what topics get the "would smash" posts, etc.
You'll note that I'm not one of those who makes the "downfall of America" posts.


I've noted that you seem to be quite balanced and consistent

It's a really interesting topic full of grey areas... age of consent, adult vs child, physical vs mental maturity, etc.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:09:28 PM EST
The few times I went with my moms church youth group to the mountains for a few days skiing was pretty much a bang fest.

The leaders were the same. Guys and chicks 20-25 years old who got a free ski trip for driving a bunch of 16-18 year old kids to the mountains.
Everyone was banging everyone including the "leaders". Was some of the most corrupt shit I've ever seen and that's saying a whole lot!

I guess the party continues!
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I've noted that you seem to be quite balanced and consistent

It's a really interesting topic full of grey areas... age of consent, adult vs child, physical vs mental maturity, etc.
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Originally Posted By Subnet:
Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Really I'm just curious about peoples' reactions to these kinds of stories. What topics get the "downfall of America" posts, what topics get the "would smash" posts, etc.
You'll note that I'm not one of those who makes the "downfall of America" posts.


I've noted that you seem to be quite balanced and consistent

It's a really interesting topic full of grey areas... age of consent, adult vs child, physical vs mental maturity, etc.



Agreed.
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Gotta love this place. A very attractive woman, outside of makeup and good lighting, is suddenly horribly ugly.
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I'd hit it now.

At 15 I would have shot my nuts out the end of my dick.
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I've noted that you seem to be quite balanced and consistent

It's a really interesting topic full of grey areas... age of consent, adult vs child, physical vs mental maturity, etc.
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Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Originally Posted By Subnet:
Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Really I'm just curious about peoples' reactions to these kinds of stories. What topics get the "downfall of America" posts, what topics get the "would smash" posts, etc.
You'll note that I'm not one of those who makes the "downfall of America" posts.


I've noted that you seem to be quite balanced and consistent

It's a really interesting topic full of grey areas... age of consent, adult vs child, physical vs mental maturity, etc.
Legally, she's fucked.

My saying "Not guilty" is really more my way of saying "I don't give a damn if a 25 year old chick has consensual relations with a 15 year old horny teenager".

Unless she duct taped a popsicle stick to his dick, he was more than willing.

Should she be fired? Yep. Should his parents be rightfully upset? Oh yeah. Do I want the law to fuck this woman over? Not really. They will (no mistake about it), but I'd rather it wasn't so.
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According to the insurance industry, all churches have a problem with this. It is not significantly worse in the RC church than it is in protestant churches.
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That doesn't stop the endless, tired old meme that the problem in the Catholic church could be helped by letting priests get married.
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Really I'm just curious about peoples' reactions to these kinds of stories. What topics get the "downfall of America" posts, what topics get the "would smash" posts, etc.
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No you are just trolling. Like when you said you had experience as a parent but no kids or custodial obligation.
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Originally Posted By Subnet:
Legally, she's fucked.

My saying "Not guilty" is really more my way of saying "I don't give a damn if a 25 year old chick has consensual relations with a 15 year old horny teenager".

Unless she duct taped a popsicle stick to his dick, he was more than willing.

Should she be fired? Yep. Should his parents be rightfully upset? Oh yeah. Do I want the law to fuck this woman over? Not really. They will (no mistake about it), but I'd rather it wasn't so.
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Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Really I'm just curious about peoples' reactions to these kinds of stories. What topics get the "downfall of America" posts, what topics get the "would smash" posts, etc.
You'll note that I'm not one of those who makes the "downfall of America" posts.


I've noted that you seem to be quite balanced and consistent

It's a really interesting topic full of grey areas... age of consent, adult vs child, physical vs mental maturity, etc.
Legally, she's fucked.

My saying "Not guilty" is really more my way of saying "I don't give a damn if a 25 year old chick has consensual relations with a 15 year old horny teenager".

Unless she duct taped a popsicle stick to his dick, he was more than willing.

Should she be fired? Yep. Should his parents be rightfully upset? Oh yeah. Do I want the law to fuck this woman over? Not really. They will (no mistake about it), but I'd rather it wasn't so.


I really don't know what I think the law should be about situations like this. When in doubt, I think no .gov is better than any .gov though.

I don't like the thought of people who are in a position of authority over teens being in a relationship with them, but you can pretty much come up with an excuse for any law.
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I realize this sounds pedantic, but the woman in this story is not, by definition, a pedophile.

And I really get the impression that the encounter was consensual. It sure as shit would have been, when I was 15.
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Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:

Pedos are people too. When they molest children though, that's bad. Attraction is not a crime. Molestation is.
I realize this sounds pedantic, but the woman in this story is not, by definition, a pedophile.

And I really get the impression that the encounter was consensual. It sure as shit would have been, when I was 15.


Correct.

It is still reprehensible behavior though and should be punished. Its even worse than the cases from a school. She is a church leader. She is supposed to be helping them grow spiritually and instead destroys that for personal benefit.

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No you are just trolling. Like when you said you had experience as a parent but no kids or custodial obligation.
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Really I'm just curious about peoples' reactions to these kinds of stories. What topics get the "downfall of America" posts, what topics get the "would smash" posts, etc.

No you are just trolling. Like when you said you had experience as a parent but no kids or custodial obligation.


I don't have any dogs, but I have experience as a dog owner. How could that be? Contradiction, right? Try thinking.
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Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:

I really don't know what I think the law should be about situations like this. When in doubt, I think no .gov is better than any .gov though.

I don't like the thought of people who are in a position of authority over teens being in a relationship with them, but you can pretty much come up with an excuse for any law.
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I don't either, which is why she should be fired. And nevermind the hypocrisy of a youth group leader in a church doing this (that's just icing on the cake).

I'm not going to call her "sick", though. She's 25, and a bit of a looker. At 15, a lot of boys are beginning to look like young men - some more than others. It depends. And by 15, I would have been all over that. And I would have kept my mouth shut, too.

It would have been bad judgement on my part (for a lot of reasons, to include my immaturity combined with raging hormones), but not so severe as to involve the law.

In hindsight, getting laid at 15 (my girlfriend was 16) was actually pretty stupid. Thankfully, it all worked out just fine, and neither of us have criminal records to show for it. Good thing she wasn't 25, I guess. Didn't make any difference to my dick.
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What happened to having a slice of pie and STFU!

Ya, at 15 it's hard to fight the urge to tell everyone with a pulse you just banged a 25 year old but kids are pretty street smart and know someone is getting the shaft, again, if it gets out.

Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:38:14 PM EST
In my world the only person who would be punished is the Snitch!
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:45:41 PM EST
Not guilty. I hadn't caught the rule of spotting mulligans for mug shots, lol I love it. Shame on her, shame, shame, shame. She is a terrible church camp counselor. Whenever this happens I can't help but wonder where in the hell were these women when I was 15?
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Legally, she's fucked.

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Originally Posted By OutnProudPaul:
Really I'm just curious about peoples' reactions to these kinds of stories. What topics get the "downfall of America" posts, what topics get the "would smash" posts, etc.
You'll note that I'm not one of those who makes the "downfall of America" posts.


I've noted that you seem to be quite balanced and consistent

It's a really interesting topic full of grey areas... age of consent, adult vs child, physical vs mental maturity, etc.
Legally, she's fucked.

My saying "Not guilty" is really more my way of saying "I don't give a damn if a 25 year old chick has consensual relations with a 15 year old horny teenager".

Unless she duct taped a popsicle stick to his dick, he was more than willing.

Should she be fired? Yep. Should his parents be rightfully upset? Oh yeah. Do I want the law to fuck this woman over? Not really. They will (no mistake about it), but I'd rather it wasn't so.
I say we should lower the voting age of boys to age 13.
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not guilty.
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And by 15, I would have been all over that. And I would have kept my mouth shut, too.




At fifteen I would have been mumbling incoherently while trying to not get caught staring at the boobs, and if I did figure out how to hit it I probably would have rented a bill board.
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I think we saw that coming.
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OK, +4 on the mugshot
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id give her the ol " bossa nova " treatment
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