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Posted: 6/24/2016 4:38:42 PM EDT
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Tag as I'm needing to get one as well.
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Posted: 6/24/2016 4:40:36 PM EDT
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I would also be curious to know if there is ever really a need for a swivel base.
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Posted: 6/24/2016 4:41:07 PM EDT
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If milling aluminum or wood gently and at a super slow feed rate then mabye. Honestly spend 400 or so in a mini mill from grizzly or hf and you will get way better results.
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I would also be curious to know if there is ever really a need for a swivel base. Depends on what you are doing, generally as in 99% of the time that's a no. |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 4:43:16 PM EDT
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If you are only drilling and not milling, why wouldn't a harbor freight one work?
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Posted: 6/24/2016 4:44:30 PM EDT
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If you are only drilling and not milling, why wouldn't a harbor freight one work? Becasue I don't like buying junk. |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 4:48:42 PM EDT
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Becasue I don't like buying junk. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you are only drilling and not milling, why wouldn't a harbor freight one work? Becasue I don't like buying junk. Stuff is mostly made in the same shit hole, qc may be a tad better but that's it. |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 4:52:34 PM EDT
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Stuff is mostly made in the same shit hole, qc may be a tad better but that's it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you are only drilling and not milling, why wouldn't a harbor freight one work? Becasue I don't like buying junk. Stuff is mostly made in the same shit hole, qc may be a tad better but that's it. I own some Dayton and Westward tools(the 2 vises I am looking) and their quality is on a different planet than anything harbor freight carries. |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:00:23 PM EDT
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I own some Dayton and Westward tools(the 2 vises I am looking) and their quality is on a different planet than anything harbor freight carries. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you are only drilling and not milling, why wouldn't a harbor freight one work? Becasue I don't like buying junk. Stuff is mostly made in the same shit hole, qc may be a tad better but that's it. I own some Dayton and Westward tools(the 2 vises I am looking) and their quality is on a different planet than anything harbor freight carries. Wilton. Kurt. If you are gonna spend, spend. |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:03:26 PM EDT
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If milling aluminum or wood gently and at a super slow feed rate then mabye. Honestly spend 400 or so in a mini mill from grizzly or hf and you will get way better results. Depends on what you are doing, generally as in 99% of the time that's a no. Quote HistoryQuoted:
If milling aluminum or wood gently and at a super slow feed rate then mabye. Honestly spend 400 or so in a mini mill from grizzly or hf and you will get way better results. Quoted:
I would also be curious to know if there is ever really a need for a swivel base. Depends on what you are doing, generally as in 99% of the time that's a no. It is going to cost you more than $400 to get into a mini mill, If I remember right Grizzly is running $645 and the HF mini, which is essentially the same mill is running about $569.00. Plus you will have to buy some tooling, or a jig kit with the bits and mills. That said, it is a better way to go, but I have seen a lot of lowers done real nice with a decent drill press, but they are not designed for the side loads like the mini mills. |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:05:01 PM EDT
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Becasue I don't like buying junk. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you are only drilling and not milling, why wouldn't a harbor freight one work? Becasue I don't like buying junk. Boy I have been beating the shit out of my HF drill press for years now and it is still going strong, I believe I have had that thing for at least 10 years now. |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:05:24 PM EDT
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It is going to cost you more than $400 to get into a mini mill, If I remember right Grizzly is running $645 and the HF mini, which is essentially the same mill is running about $569.00. Plus you will have to buy some tooling, or a jig kit with the bits and mills. That said, it is a better way to go, but I have seen a lot of lowers done real nice with a decent drill press, but they are not designed for the side loads like the mini mills. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If milling aluminum or wood gently and at a super slow feed rate then mabye. Honestly spend 400 or so in a mini mill from grizzly or hf and you will get way better results. Quoted:
I would also be curious to know if there is ever really a need for a swivel base. Depends on what you are doing, generally as in 99% of the time that's a no. It is going to cost you more than $400 to get into a mini mill, If I remember right Grizzly is running $645 and the HF mini, which is essentially the same mill is running about $569.00. Plus you will have to buy some tooling, or a jig kit with the bits and mills. That said, it is a better way to go, but I have seen a lot of lowers done real nice with a decent drill press, but they are not designed for the side loads like the mini mills. Not really interested in a mini-mill as I have access to a mill for machining lowers. I and looking for the drill press vice for other work like drilling/pinning barrels and some other around the shop chores. |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:05:27 PM EDT
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I just bought a drill press and have also been looking for a good vice to use with it so....tag.
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:05:56 PM EDT
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Boy I have been beating the shit out of my HF drill press for years now and it is still going strong, I believe I have had that thing for at least 10 years now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you are only drilling and not milling, why wouldn't a harbor freight one work? Becasue I don't like buying junk. Boy I have been beating the shit out of my HF drill press for years now and it is still going strong, I believe I have had that thing for at least 10 years now. That's great. |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:06:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:08:25 PM EDT
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If you are only drilling and not milling, why wouldn't a harbor freight one work? Becasue I don't like buying junk. Boy I have been beating the shit out of my HF drill press for years now and it is still going strong, I believe I have had that thing for at least 10 years now. That's great. Here we go again! 
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:09:40 PM EDT
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Hear we go again!
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If you are only drilling and not milling, why wouldn't a harbor freight one work? Becasue I don't like buying junk. Boy I have been beating the shit out of my HF drill press for years now and it is still going strong, I believe I have had that thing for at least 10 years now. That's great. Hear we go again!
Here what goes again? I compliment you on having good luck with something from HF and you don't like it? |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:13:39 PM EDT
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That's great. Hear we go again! Here what goes again? I compliment you on having good luck with something from HF and you don't like it? I apologize, I thought you were being smart assed, sorry about that. 
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:13:43 PM EDT
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Wilton. Kurt. If you are gonna spend, spend. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you are only drilling and not milling, why wouldn't a harbor freight one work? Becasue I don't like buying junk. Stuff is mostly made in the same shit hole, qc may be a tad better but that's it. I own some Dayton and Westward tools(the 2 vises I am looking) and their quality is on a different planet than anything harbor freight carries. Wilton. Kurt. If you are gonna spend, spend. Wilton and Kurt are far and away better, but if RC isn't going to be using them daily, they probably won't be necessary. |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:13:53 PM EDT
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If you want the best you can't go wrong with Kurt. I like buying the best too but I really can't justify Kurt...I do keep trying though
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:14:22 PM EDT
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Just so you know those Daytons are made in China.
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:14:41 PM EDT
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Not really interested in a mini-mill as I have access to a mill for machining lowers. I and looking for the drill press vice for other work like drilling/pinning barrels and some other around the shop chores. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If milling aluminum or wood gently and at a super slow feed rate then mabye. Honestly spend 400 or so in a mini mill from grizzly or hf and you will get way better results. Quoted:
I would also be curious to know if there is ever really a need for a swivel base. Depends on what you are doing, generally as in 99% of the time that's a no. It is going to cost you more than $400 to get into a mini mill, If I remember right Grizzly is running $645 and the HF mini, which is essentially the same mill is running about $569.00. Plus you will have to buy some tooling, or a jig kit with the bits and mills. That said, it is a better way to go, but I have seen a lot of lowers done real nice with a decent drill press, but they are not designed for the side loads like the mini mills. Not really interested in a mini-mill as I have access to a mill for machining lowers. I and looking for the drill press vice for other work like drilling/pinning barrels and some other around the shop chores. Bought mine for 400 new shipped, works well. Anyway go with what you posted, just make sure the swivel base is removeable. |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:14:56 PM EDT
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Just so you know those Daytons are made in China. Fully aware of that. |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:17:26 PM EDT
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Check your pm box Op.
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:17:50 PM EDT
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Check your pm box Op. Responded. |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:18:30 PM EDT
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Bought mine for 400 new shipped, works well. Anyway go with what you posted, just make sure the swivel base is removeable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If milling aluminum or wood gently and at a super slow feed rate then mabye. Honestly spend 400 or so in a mini mill from grizzly or hf and you will get way better results. Quoted:
I would also be curious to know if there is ever really a need for a swivel base. Depends on what you are doing, generally as in 99% of the time that's a no. It is going to cost you more than $400 to get into a mini mill, If I remember right Grizzly is running $645 and the HF mini, which is essentially the same mill is running about $569.00. Plus you will have to buy some tooling, or a jig kit with the bits and mills. That said, it is a better way to go, but I have seen a lot of lowers done real nice with a decent drill press, but they are not designed for the side loads like the mini mills. Not really interested in a mini-mill as I have access to a mill for machining lowers. I and looking for the drill press vice for other work like drilling/pinning barrels and some other around the shop chores. Bought mine for 400 new shipped, works well. Anyway go with what you posted, just make sure the swivel base is removeable. You got a good buy if you got one for $400 shipped, I looked for a long time and never saw one that low. I ended up getting a used Grizzly and a HF mini lathe with all of the tooling, bits and mills for less than a grand. |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:19:25 PM EDT
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I apologize, I thought you were being smart assed, sorry about that.
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That's great. Hear we go again! Here what goes again? I compliment you on having good luck with something from HF and you don't like it? I apologize, I thought you were being smart assed, sorry about that.
No need to apologize. I need to work on being more articulate. |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:23:21 PM EDT
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Over in the build it yourself section, we have quite a long thread going on about different things doing with mills, drill presses, tooling, vises and such, you might also post your question over there to see what the guys that are building are using, my vise for my mill was custom made by the machinist I purchased my other stuff from.
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:27:01 PM EDT
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Wilton used to be a decent brand years ago. Enco is a decent company to deal with if the vise sucks.
http://www.use-enco.com/1/1/92347-11698-wilton-cross-slide-drill-press-vises.html |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:28:25 PM EDT
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I've heard good things about shars.com products. Not aerospace grade but inspected on a granite surface plate and within 2-4 thousandth for flatness across the whole surface and the same for parallelism and square. And not terribly expensive. 6.4" jaws x 5.91" max opening milling vise with removable swivel plate for $135 (or $170 for the same vise without the swivel plate
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:36:44 PM EDT
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Get an angle vise too!
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:39:46 PM EDT
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Op, Dayton makes ok stuff........ but Grainger is ridiculously overpriced on pretty much everything they sell... You'll likely still have some slop in the ways with the Dayton, but it will be far better than the harbor freight shit the knuckleheads here suggest.
The one thing you should definitely be considering is the rigidity of the press's table. If it flexes and struggles to maintain it's posture under pressure, your new vise that's mounted to it isn't going to work worth a shit anyway..... so spending $400 for a vise that sit's on a $400 press, is probably not going to yield the results you are hoping for. |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:42:17 PM EDT
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If you can get a decent price on a used Kurt, do it.
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:44:18 PM EDT
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Boy I have been beating the shit out of my HF drill press for years now and it is still going strong, I believe I have had that thing for at least 10 years now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you are only drilling and not milling, why wouldn't a harbor freight one work? Becasue I don't like buying junk. Boy I have been beating the shit out of my HF drill press for years now and it is still going strong, I believe I have had that thing for at least 10 years now. The old ones had cast iron base plates and cast iron tables. The new ones are stamped steel crap and the chuck runout has gotten worse. I also had one of the new ones jam/lock up much faster or when drill easier things than my older one. |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:45:11 PM EDT
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Op, Dayton makes ok stuff........ but Grainger is ridiculously overpriced on pretty much everything they sell... You'll likely still have some slop in the ways with the Dayton, but it will be far better than the harbor freight shit the knuckleheads here suggest. The one thing you should definitely be considering is the rigidity of the press's table. If it flexes and struggles to maintain it's posture under pressure, your new vise that's mounted to it isn't going to work worth a shit anyway..... so spending $400 for a vise that sit's on a $400 press, is probably not going to yield the results you are hoping for. My drill press is GTG, it's a Jet(industrial grade) floor stand model. |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 5:55:09 PM EDT
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I would check with ZORO, pretty sure they are affiliated with Grainger and less $$$, and they have a 20% off coupon going on, and they carry Dayton.
eta: quick search, and correct: http://toolguyd.com/zoro-tools-grainger-company/ |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 9:30:39 PM EDT
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My drill press is GTG, it's a Jet(industrial grade) floor stand model. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Op, Dayton makes ok stuff........ but Grainger is ridiculously overpriced on pretty much everything they sell... You'll likely still have some slop in the ways with the Dayton, but it will be far better than the harbor freight shit the knuckleheads here suggest. The one thing you should definitely be considering is the rigidity of the press's table. If it flexes and struggles to maintain it's posture under pressure, your new vise that's mounted to it isn't going to work worth a shit anyway..... so spending $400 for a vise that sit's on a $400 press, is probably not going to yield the results you are hoping for. My drill press is GTG, it's a Jet(industrial grade) floor stand model. Since that's the case, I would definitely spend some money on a quality vise. Kurt is what you want. The Dayton is going to piss you off. |
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