Posted: 1/14/2005 11:23:42 AM EDT
| So when the hell are our borders going to close down? And are goverment is going to follow the written law. |
Thanks for fixing it  What could you possibly have had on mind that would have caused that mispelling? What, were you running up the Jolly Roger and arming your raiding party when typing this or something? And no, our borders won't close. Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses... |
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Nope. Too many people in positions of power with a vested interest in votes and cheap labor to do a damn thing about it. If, and it's a big IF, the next MAJOR terrorist attack on U.S. soil can be traced back to an illegal border crossing then you MIGHT see some movement to actually control things. The figures for 2004 indicated that they caught ONE MILLION FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND illegals. The BEST figures indicate that they only get about 25% so that means at LEAST FOUR MILLION TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND people entered this country illegally last year. We are being invaded and this Nation will fall from the inside, the evidence is CRYSTAL CLEAR and yet any LAW ABIDING Citizen that speaks out or (God forbid) actually tries to DO something about it is branded a "racist", "red-neck" or a "Militia-nut" and either ridiculed, shouted down or persecuted by his own government for daring to think that somehow someone is at fault FOR NOT ENFORCING THE LAW.  
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No problem with that, but give them to us the legal way.  Why being a tax payer do I need to follow the law of the land while a mexican citizen can hop our border and do what he feels like doing? And our goverment backs him and wants to give him my money. And let him drive on our streets and use things our hard earned money purchased. <edit> I am in nevada and even starting to see this shit, as they stand on our corners in the morning waiting for some one to pick them up for some cheap labor. What Bullshit. |
The border crossings themselves may be secure as far as vehicular traffic goes, but there are still thousands coming across via footpaths in the vastness between legal border crossings. And I do not see any attempts at stemming the tide of illegals flooding in via those routes. On the contrary, we're setting up watering holes for them so they don't die of thirst while transiting the desert, and marking them with flags so they don't get lost  . How hard would it be for terrorists to cross into this country via the countless footpaths that exist along the Mexican border? It will take another attack along the lines of 9/11 that gets traced back to illegal entry via these footpaths to force the Gov't to finally close them down for good.....Sadly, as far as the Mexican border goes, the US is practicing reactionary homeland security vice precautionary security..... |
I know Chris. I probably know more about the situation on the southern border (from living and spending much time down there) than 95% of the folks on the board. Just making an observation on how good of a job the Goobermint is doing!! 
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shhhhh, what you are talking about is Mexico ops plan, Conquestor North. btw, do you remember in Robocop, the news where Americans were sneaking into Mexico for jobs? Lol |
One of the loudest times I was ever in a movie theater was watching "The day after tomorrow" in Grand Prarie (a south 'burb of Dallas) and all the mexicans in the audience just exploded with laughter when they saw all the folks crossing the river heading south!  
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Please explain why terrorists would trek on foot through the desert of the US South West when they could just drive a vehicle across the completely unguarded Canadian border? |
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borders.. language.. culture... living in the peoples republik of Kaliforniastan, I can attest to a wide open border for everyone. Hell our state prints all offical state pamphlets in about 12 different languages. I love going to the DMV and only being able to get a tagalog or spanish rules of the road.  My favorite is my teacher friends having to disrupt the regular class time to help the non english speaking kids.. who get all their meals and transportation paid for by the state. then to top it off, getting pressure from the school admin to pass the students on when they cant read or write? WTF?? Dont even get me started.. and NO.. im not sending any f*cking money for tsunami victims! When's the last time you saw india or bangladesh sending us cash for our last hurricane or series of tornados? Id be way happier slamming the doors on the borders shut, getting some integrity/values back, and diverting all money for international aid back into the US for healthcare/housing/social security/hunger.. we have all that here.. why send it overseas? F Them!! Take care of our house first before mortagaging it out from under us. <rant over> 
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Never said they couldn't get in that way. My statement would still stand, just strike "Mexican". The sad truth is that it would be too easy to do, regardless of which border we're talking about. If you don't think an open southern border is a threat, then I believe you are naive. 
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When my oldest son was in third grade, his class was comprised of a"cluster" of the highest scoring children, and a "cluster" of the "resource and limited Eng. children" They used "partner learning" and "peer teaching" and gave each of the ESL children a GATE student to help with all of their classwork all year long. Great...my 8 year old was allowed to be a teachers aide for free. 
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Arabs aren't very white, they can easily be smuggled in as mexicans. And if they get caught they get booted back to mexico instead of cuba. |
Some of the best targets are closer to the southern border too. |
Over run the area with illegals and get bills passed that say illegals can run for office and bam its done. They are already trying to give illegals rights in this country, including Bush, and that just pisses me off to no end. |
| Close the borders? Why would any internationalist politician or bureaucrat really want to push that? Very few actually do. Closing the borders and restricting illegal immigration would impede this nation's progress toward creating a "Greater North American Alliance," a policy that our current President seems to be passionately obsessed with. The plan is not to strengthen the borders that divide us, it is to eventually eliminate them. |
Sorry, but we already have sufficient mechanical cotton pickers! You shouldn't be looking at those WPA photos of cotton pickers in the South during the Depression. Times have changed brother. You might mean lettuce pickers. That would be more timely. Fine, I'll do without lettuce IF it means the Borders are sealed. Eric The(Nativistic)Hun 
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I sound like a broken record about this topic... I doubt we'll ever completely close the borders. "Completely closed" = seal the borders so no one can cross through the desert. WTF do I say that? Because if all the damage to public and private property caused by illegal aliens won't motivate .gov, nothing will. If the crime committed by illegal aliens won't motivate .gov, nothing will If the cost of illegal immigration won't motivate .gov, nothing will. If the events of 11 September 2001, and all the factual reports regarding terrorists trying or having succeeded in entering this country won't motivate .gov, nothing will. If the safety of the citizens of the United States of America won't motivate .gov, nothing will. If .gov hasn't been motivated by now, it ain't gonna happen. I truly, no BS, think we are doomed. And I wonder how our elected officials can sleep at night, knowing what they are (not) doing. Want to be an elected public official? Please check your conscience and integrity at the door. |
I really don't know, man. (Throws hands up in disgust) I tried to do what I thought seemed like good actions. I got involved with Ranch Rescue. That turned into a disaster, I've been to court, probably will have to go some more, and am gagged by a District Judge from discussing the case(s). Side note: I'm not a defendant, and I'm not in, nor will I get in, any legal trouble over this. But this has cost me time, money, and aggravation. People are not always what they advertise themselves to be... Guess we can keep voting, writing letters, etc. Here's s SNIP of the letter I wrote President Bush in 2003 - this letter in its entirety and his reply should be on the old server here.
My three Bs are: beans, bullets, and beverages. I'm not advocating war, but I am concerned. If these Asslanders are (or already have) gotten aid, ie money, training, and equipment, from AQ, I have zero doubt they will use them against us.I work construction, and see the probs of non-English speaking workers almost daily. I could type a long rant just about last Monday. Frustrating...I see what's happening, but .gov refuses to act in a meaningful way upon the concerns of myself and many others. I really think it's too late. We'll just see more and more illegal aliens, the cost to this country will continue to rise (crime, $$, etc) and eventually the SW United States will become predominantely Hispanic. I don't see any other way around it. But that could be an OK thing, if the crime wasn't an issue, they learned to speak English, etc. Just became good American citizens. But I don't believe most are motivated to that end. |
Those may not motivate them, but if you get on the phone and call them every week, that will motivate them. But don't call just to bitch - offer concrete solutions to the immigration problem. There are tons of things we can do that will get rid of the illegals without ever having to lay a hand on any of them. These politicians have to be informed that their lack of action on the matter is a danger to their continued employment. Arizona's Prop 200 was a good start. |
A while back, I would've agreed with you. I can't predict the future, but I don't believe your suggestion will close the borders.
This will accomplish something, but not the closing of the borders. More than likely, just create a revolving door of bad officials.
Agreed. My POV is: WTF is gonna happen when President Bush sings the Guest Worker Program? Or whatever the name has now morphed into. Your state .gov, no matter who is in the chair, will have to comply. Frankly, it's not a ".gov problem." It's the intentions of those coming across the border that are not conducive to our continued way of life. I'll continue to write and call, as I hope others do. But this is the one issue in life/government that I believe the war is lost. |
1. Do not knowingly employ illegal aliens, or the people that hire them. 2. Do not employ people who support illegals. (If your gardner is legal, but has 15 illegals living with him, fire your gardner.) 3. Do not donate to charities that support illegal imigration (Cathloic church, Salvation Army, goodwill) 4. Buy Made In Mexico products. Improving the job market in Mexico keeps more of them there. 5. Do not buy made in USA products made by companies that hire illegals. 6. Vote for political candidates based on their illegal immigration record. How they really voted, not what they say. |
I am amazed at the number of electrical products that are made in Mexico. If the contractor I now work for tried that, he would probably be out of business. (Not knocking your idea, just stating the facts) |
Some of the worlds best lighting products, incliuding surefire lamp assemblies, are made in Mexico. |
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I was directed to this article on another Board. globalpolitician.com/articles.asp?ID=265&print=true
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As soon as the terrorist bring a couple hundred kilograms worth of nuclear weapon/waste across the border along with the kilo-tons worth of dope that comes across every night. There are thousands of people cross the border every night bringing mostly welfare cases but what's going to happen when one brings over a biological weapon or just a plane old contagious virus? Sadly it's going to take the preventable deaths of many thousands of Americans before either political party will do anything about the open border. There are already several hundred cops and citizens dead across the country just due to the crime brought over across the years. |
1. We've already had "the preventable deaths of many thousands." (We both know you can never stop all terrorists) 2. There are factual reports of people from terrorist nations actively trying to get into the U.S. through Mexico. 3. Now they're trying to give the illegal aliens (? incl terrorists ?) legal status via a Guest Worker program. I don't think they'll close the border. Tancredo keeps jumping up and down and screaming, (God Bless him) but he's adrift in a sea of inequity. |
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Originally Posted By Backstop 1. We've already had "the preventable deaths of many thousands." (We both know you can never stop all terrorists) 2. There are factual reports of people from terrorist nations actively trying to get into the U.S. through Mexico. 3. Now they're trying to give the illegal aliens (? incl terrorists ?) legal status via a Guest Worker program. I don't think they'll close the border. Tancredo keeps jumping up and down and screaming, (God Bless him) but he's adrift in a sea of inequity. Well put , you have to wonder what the Hell GW is thinking. |
Thanks. Wondering myself. EDIT: Let me say more. Not closing the borders is the one big conspiracy issue I have. WTF wouldn't they close the borders? It just doesn't make sense. You can't convince me the President of The United States would leave us open to this kind of threat. I don't get it. |
Sort of. But I gotta wait until after ALL the trials are over. I've been forbidden by a District Judge to speak about many things. Already been to court (two days of my life) once, and I forsee more. But for now, I sure can listen...IM or email is welcomed. |