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Posted: 9/6/2005 12:41:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2005 12:42:29 PM EDT by Old_Painless]
Some of you guys may remember my thread about an arrest we made back when I was a young Patrolman. If not, here's the link to the original thread:

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=366639

After I posted the thread, my friend brianksain said, "You know Harvey's still living in the city, you ought to call him." I said, "I'm going to do that."

So, I did.

Here's the old photo from 1969:



I'm on the left and Harvey is on the right. I'm 21 and Harvey is 37.

Here we are today:



Now I'm 56 and Harvey is 72.

I've put on 75 pounds and my hair's turned white. Harvey looks about the same.

Life ain't fair.

I left police work to go to work in a refinery and retired from there. Harvey left the city PD and went to work for the Sheriff's Office where he retired as the Captain of the Patrol Division.

It was great to talk with Harvey. He kept me in stiches talking about the old characters we used to know and telling me war stories. It was just like old times.

I am glad I posted the original thread and that it reminded me to contact Harvey.

He was the best Policeman I ever met.

My hope was to some day be as good of a policeman as he was. I hope I made it.

Thanks, guys.

Link Posted: 9/6/2005 12:45:49 PM EDT
Ah, memories, eh? Thanks for posting those! Neat.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 12:45:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2005 12:46:07 PM EDT by vanilla_gorilla]
Hmm you 21 then, him 37...that makes you about 468 years old now right, O_P?



Joking! Glad to hear you got back up with him. The bonds forged through times and jobs like that last forever.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 12:47:45 PM EDT
Port Arthur police officer? That's a tough little town!

Next time I am back in Southeast Texas, I need to buy you a beer!

EPOCH
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 12:53:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By EPOCH96:
Port Arthur police officer? That's a tough little town!

Next time I am back in Southeast Texas, I need to buy you a beer!

EPOCH



It used to be tough.

Me and Harvey straightened it all out.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 12:55:10 PM EDT
Tag, very cool you could get back together for some memories.

Link Posted: 9/6/2005 12:56:27 PM EDT
Anyone doubt O_P can still kick ass if need be?
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 12:58:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2005 1:05:02 PM EDT by Old_Painless]

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Anyone doubt O_P can still kick ass if need be?



Shucks! All I gotta do nowadays is fall on 'em.

It'll squish 'em.

(Good to see you back, old buddy. )
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:03:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By unkempt1:
Tag, very cool you could get back together for some memories.




Big +1
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:04:44 PM EDT
So, in total, how many dogs did you guys shoot together?

I'm just kidding! I had to ask it before somebody beat me to the punch.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:06:25 PM EDT
That's awesome Old_Painless, thanks for sharing! Patty
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:09:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pighelmet:
So, in total, how many dogs did you guys shoot together?

I'm just kidding! I had to ask it before somebody beat me to the punch.



As a new Patrolmen, Harvey and I were making a Prowler call at a home. As we were walking around the house with our flashlights (it was nighttime), looking for the bad guy, Harvey stopped me and shined his flashlight downwards.

He said, "See that pile of dog crap?"

I said, "Yes".

Harvey said, "A good policeman doesn't just notice the crap, he notices the size of the pile. That's a big dog!"

We proceeded in looking for the bad guy, but also kept a eye out for a big dog wanting to eat us alive.

Always something to learn.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:09:39 PM EDT
Cool post O_P
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:12:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:13:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedGoat:
I just realized that I have never photoshopped you...

TRG



And I am very grateful for that.

Let's keep it that way and I'll owe you a cold one.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:13:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Anyone doubt O_P can still kick ass if need be?



And if he can't, he know exactly what platform and kind of ammo use to shoot you!
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:25:30 PM EDT
Great story. I find myself looking back once in a while, and burst out laughing. Usually about the morons I worked with and the morons that I arrested.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:34:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pattymcn:
That's awesome Old_Painless, thanks for sharing! Patty



Thanks, Patty.

I'm sure you weren't even anywhere near born yet.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:38:05 PM EDT
outstanding
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:41:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Anyone doubt O_P can still kick ass if need be?



I was thinking the same thing about his partner as well.

Still lookin' pretty tough at 72.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:47:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2005 1:49:40 PM EDT by brianksain]
It is still a rough place.

The ones you guys caught had offspring OP ... (just like in Aliens).

Had detective callout this Labor Day weekend.

Had a murder, a drive by between two gangs, a dead man in the road (heart attack), a leaving the scene wreck and a dead 18 month year old ... ++++++ a run in with some "refugees" (gang bangers) at the mall.

Most of it barely made the paper.

Hurricane is news ...

BK
AmericanSnipers.org
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 2:00:20 PM EDT
Here's to old friends. I sure do wish I could have been there to listen to you two reminisce. I'll bet there were some doozies told!

So let me be sure I understand what Harvey was saying. It's not the size of the fight in the dog, it's the size of the pile he drops that matters. Is that right?
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 2:01:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By brianksain:
It is still a rough place.

The ones you guys caught had offspring OP ... (just like in Aliens).




"Take off and nuke 'em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 2:07:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dilbert_556:
Here's to old friends. I sure do wish I could have been there to listen to you two reminisce. I'll bet there were some doozies told!

So let me be sure I understand what Harvey was saying. It's not the size of the fight in the dog, it's the size of the pile he drops that matters. Is that right?



Big pile = Big dog.

I'll tell you one good story Harvey told me today.

The big Sgt. in the first photo is Sgt. Venable. He was a huge man.

When Harvey was a slick-sleeved rookie, he was riding with Venable. They had a felony warrant for a bad guy.

They found him and the guy says, "I ain't going to jail."

Venable says, "Let me read this warrant to you.

It says, 'Texas Peace Officer', (that's me), 'you are hereby commanded to bring the body of John Doe', (that's you)...

You will notice that it doesn't say what condition that body will be in. That is up to you."

The bad guy says, "Let me get my hat."

Link Posted: 9/6/2005 2:15:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:

Originally Posted By pighelmet:
So, in total, how many dogs did you guys shoot together?

I'm just kidding! I had to ask it before somebody beat me to the punch.



As a new Patrolmen, Harvey and I were making a Prowler call at a home. As we were walking around the house with our flashlights (it was nighttime), looking for the bad guy, Harvey stopped me and shined his flashlight downwards.

He said, "See that pile of dog crap?"

I said, "Yes".

Harvey said, "A good policeman doesn't just notice the crap, he notices the size of the pile. That's a big dog!"

We proceeded in looking for the bad guy, but also kept a eye out for a big dog wanting to eat us alive.

Always something to learn.



Behold, the wisdom of Harvey!

No doubt you've learned a lot, O_P.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 2:20:51 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 2:26:30 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 2:31:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:

Originally Posted By Dilbert_556:
Here's to old friends. I sure do wish I could have been there to listen to you two reminisce. I'll bet there were some doozies told!

So let me be sure I understand what Harvey was saying. It's not the size of the fight in the dog, it's the size of the pile he drops that matters. Is that right?



Big pile = Big dog.

I'll tell you one good story Harvey told me today.

The big Sgt. in the first photo is Sgt. Venable. He was a huge man.

When Harvey was a slick-sleeved rookie, he was riding with Venable. They had a felony warrant for a bad guy.

They found him and the guy says, "I ain't going to jail."

Venable says, "Let me read this warrant to you.

It says, 'Texas Peace Officer', (that's me), 'you are hereby commanded to bring the body of John Doe', (that's you)...

You will notice that it doesn't say what condition that body will be in. That is up to you."

The bad guy says, "Let me get my hat."






Link Posted: 9/6/2005 2:35:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aimless:
"Let me get my hat."



I crack up every time I think of that.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 2:45:39 PM EDT
Good stuff! Thanks for sharing!

Link Posted: 9/6/2005 2:48:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2005 2:49:09 PM EDT by CSM]
Thanks. I remember your old thread. Your friend shoot?

Sounds like another Box O Truth comin up.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 2:49:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:

Originally Posted By Dilbert_556:
Here's to old friends. I sure do wish I could have been there to listen to you two reminisce. I'll bet there were some doozies told!

So let me be sure I understand what Harvey was saying. It's not the size of the fight in the dog, it's the size of the pile he drops that matters. Is that right?



Big pile = Big dog.

I'll tell you one good story Harvey told me today.

The big Sgt. in the first photo is Sgt. Venable. He was a huge man.

When Harvey was a slick-sleeved rookie, he was riding with Venable. They had a felony warrant for a bad guy.

They found him and the guy says, "I ain't going to jail."

Venable says, "Let me read this warrant to you.

It says, 'Texas Peace Officer', (that's me), 'you are hereby commanded to bring the body of John Doe', (that's you)...

You will notice that it doesn't say what condition that body will be in. That is up to you."

The bad guy says, "Let me get my hat."






Oh, THIS is getting forwarded to a few people. Holy crap, that's funny!
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 2:51:55 PM EDT
The only pics of me that made the paper I was wearing a mask.


Good job OP. You still look like you could handle your own.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 3:01:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
The only pics of me that made the paper I was wearing a mask.


Good job OP. You still look like you could handle your own.



Thanks, Bama.

Mostly nowadays, the only thing I can handle is a large chicken fried steak.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 3:02:16 PM EDT
You looked like Elvis.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 3:05:40 PM EDT
i miss my paw.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 3:09:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:

Originally Posted By Dilbert_556:
Here's to old friends. I sure do wish I could have been there to listen to you two reminisce. I'll bet there were some doozies told!

So let me be sure I understand what Harvey was saying. It's not the size of the fight in the dog, it's the size of the pile he drops that matters. Is that right?



Big pile = Big dog.

I'll tell you one good story Harvey told me today.

The big Sgt. in the first photo is Sgt. Venable. He was a huge man.

When Harvey was a slick-sleeved rookie, he was riding with Venable. They had a felony warrant for a bad guy.

They found him and the guy says, "I ain't going to jail."

Venable says, "Let me read this warrant to you.

It says, 'Texas Peace Officer', (that's me), 'you are hereby commanded to bring the body of John Doe', (that's you)...

You will notice that it doesn't say what condition that body will be in. That is up to you."

The bad guy says, "Let me get my hat."




Link Posted: 9/6/2005 3:10:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ar15_rifleman:
You looked like Elvis.



[Elvis]Thank ya. Thank ya very much.[Elvis]

Link Posted: 9/6/2005 3:45:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aimless:
"Let me get my hat."





Nowadays, if someone would try using that line when facing arrest... "Let me get my hat," the response is a flat out, "NO."

The story's a good sign of the times. Used to be a hat was as necessary as a shirt for a man in public.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 3:52:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By npd233:

Originally Posted By Aimless:
"Let me get my hat."





Nowadays, if someone would try using that line when facing arrest... "Let me get my hat," the response is a flat out, "NO."

The story's a good sign of the times. Used to be a hat was as necessary as a shirt for a man in public.



Yep, times have indeed changed.

Harvey and I were laughing today about how we used to arrive at a call, call "10-23", and leave the car with our briefcases in it, shotgun in it, and the car keys in it.

No one would have "dared' to mess with a patrol car.

Nowadays, you'd return to an empty parking place.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 5:52:49 PM EDT
A bump for the night crew.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 6:06:15 PM EDT
O_P,

When you post, it's like an eye magnet....it's just a must read. Great story!

HH
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 6:17:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:
O_P,

When you post, it's like an eye magnet....it's just a must read. Great story!

HH



Thanks.

The amazing thing is that it's all true.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 6:24:02 PM EDT
Too cool. How about an O_P forum?


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