Old_Painless, Back in the Day - Part 2

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Posted: 9/6/2005 12:41:39 PM EDT

Some of you guys may remember my thread about an arrest we made back when I was a young Patrolman. If not, here's the link to the original thread:

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=366639

After I posted the thread, my friend brianksain said, "You know Harvey's still living in the city, you ought to call him." I said, "I'm going to do that."

So, I did.

Here's the old photo from 1969:

I'm on the left and Harvey is on the right. I'm 21 and Harvey is 37.

Here we are today:

Now I'm 56 and Harvey is 72.

I've put on 75 pounds and my hair's turned white. Harvey looks about the same.

Life ain't fair.

I left police work to go to work in a refinery and retired from there. Harvey left the city PD and went to work for the Sheriff's Office where he retired as the Captain of the Patrol Division.

It was great to talk with Harvey. He kept me in stiches talking about the old characters we used to know and telling me war stories. It was just like old times.

I am glad I posted the original thread and that it reminded me to contact Harvey.

He was the best Policeman I ever met.

My hope was to some day be as good of a policeman as he was. I hope I made it.

Thanks, guys.

Posted: 9/6/2005 12:45:49 PM EDT

[#1]

Ah, memories, eh? Thanks for posting those! Neat.

Posted: 9/6/2005 12:45:50 PM EDT

[#2]

Hmm you 21 then, him 37...that makes you about 468 years old now right, O_P?

Joking! Glad to hear you got back up with him. The bonds forged through times and jobs like that last forever.

Posted: 9/6/2005 12:47:45 PM EDT

[#3]

Port Arthur police officer? That's a tough little town!

Next time I am back in Southeast Texas, I need to buy you a beer!

EPOCH

Posted: 9/6/2005 12:53:19 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
Port Arthur police officer? That's a tough little town!

Next time I am back in Southeast Texas, I need to buy you a beer!

EPOCH

It used to be tough.

Me and Harvey straightened it all out.

Posted: 9/6/2005 12:55:10 PM EDT

[#5]

Tag, very cool you could get back together for some memories.

Posted: 9/6/2005 12:56:27 PM EDT

[#6]

Anyone doubt O_P can still kick ass if need be?

Posted: 9/6/2005 12:58:46 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
Anyone doubt O_P can still kick ass if need be?

Shucks! All I gotta do nowadays is fall on 'em.

It'll squish 'em.

(Good to see you back, old buddy.

)

Posted: 9/6/2005 1:03:08 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
Tag, very cool you could get back together for some memories.

Big +1

Posted: 9/6/2005 1:04:44 PM EDT

[#9]

So, in total, how many dogs did you guys shoot together?

I'm just kidding! I had to ask it before somebody beat me to the punch.

Posted: 9/6/2005 1:06:25 PM EDT

[#10]

That's awesome Old_Painless, thanks for sharing! Patty

Posted: 9/6/2005 1:09:14 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
So, in total, how many dogs did you guys shoot together?

I'm just kidding! I had to ask it before somebody beat me to the punch.

As a new Patrolmen, Harvey and I were making a Prowler call at a home. As we were walking around the house with our flashlights (it was nighttime), looking for the bad guy, Harvey stopped me and shined his flashlight downwards.

He said, "See that pile of dog crap?"

I said, "Yes".

Harvey said, "A good policeman doesn't just notice the crap, he notices the size of the pile. That's a big dog!"

We proceeded in looking for the bad guy, but also kept a eye out for a big dog wanting to eat us alive.

Always something to learn.

Posted: 9/6/2005 1:09:39 PM EDT

[#12]

Cool post O_P

Posted: 9/6/2005 1:12:15 PM EDT

[#13]

I just realized that I have never photoshopped you...

TRG

Posted: 9/6/2005 1:13:25 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
I just realized that I have never photoshopped you...

TRG

And I am very grateful for that.

Let's keep it that way and I'll owe you a cold one.

Posted: 9/6/2005 1:13:48 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
Anyone doubt O_P can still kick ass if need be?

And if he can't, he know exactly what platform and kind of ammo use to shoot you!

Posted: 9/6/2005 1:25:30 PM EDT

[#16]

Great story. I find myself looking back once in a while, and burst out laughing. Usually about the morons I worked with and the morons that I arrested.

Posted: 9/6/2005 1:34:52 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
That's awesome Old_Painless, thanks for sharing! Patty

Thanks, Patty.

I'm sure you weren't even anywhere near born yet.

Posted: 9/6/2005 1:38:05 PM EDT

[#18]

outstanding

Posted: 9/6/2005 1:41:16 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
Anyone doubt O_P can still kick ass if need be?

I was thinking the same thing about his partner as well.

Still lookin' pretty tough at 72.

Posted: 9/6/2005 1:47:59 PM EDT

[#20]

It is still a rough place.

The ones you guys caught had offspring OP ... (just like in Aliens).

Had detective callout this Labor Day weekend.

Had a murder, a drive by between two gangs, a dead man in the road (heart attack), a leaving the scene wreck and a dead 18 month year old ... ++++++ a run in with some "refugees" (gang bangers) at the mall.

Most of it barely made the paper.

Hurricane is news ...

BK

AmericanSnipers.org

Posted: 9/6/2005 2:00:20 PM EDT

[#21]

Here's to old friends.

I sure do wish I could have been there to listen to you two reminisce. I'll bet there were some doozies told!

So let me be sure I understand what Harvey was saying. It's not the size of the fight in the dog, it's the size of the pile he drops that matters. Is that right?

Posted: 9/6/2005 2:01:55 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
It is still a rough place.

The ones you guys caught had offspring OP ... (just like in Aliens).

"Take off and nuke 'em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."

Posted: 9/6/2005 2:07:21 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
Here's to old friends. I sure do wish I could have been there to listen to you two reminisce. I'll bet there were some doozies told!

So let me be sure I understand what Harvey was saying. It's not the size of the fight in the dog, it's the size of the pile he drops that matters. Is that right?

Big pile = Big dog.

I'll tell you one good story Harvey told me today.

The big Sgt. in the first photo is Sgt. Venable. He was a huge man.

When Harvey was a slick-sleeved rookie, he was riding with Venable. They had a felony warrant for a bad guy.

They found him and the guy says, "I ain't going to jail."

Venable says, "Let me read this warrant to you.

It says, 'Texas Peace Officer', (that's me), 'you are hereby commanded to bring the body of John Doe', (that's you)...

You will notice that it doesn't say what condition that body will be in. That is up to you."

The bad guy says, "Let me get my hat."

Posted: 9/6/2005 2:15:15 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:
Quoted:
So, in total, how many dogs did you guys shoot together?

I'm just kidding! I had to ask it before somebody beat me to the punch.

As a new Patrolmen, Harvey and I were making a Prowler call at a home. As we were walking around the house with our flashlights (it was nighttime), looking for the bad guy, Harvey stopped me and shined his flashlight downwards.

He said, "See that pile of dog crap?"

I said, "Yes".

Harvey said, "A good policeman doesn't just notice the crap, he notices the size of the pile. That's a big dog!"

We proceeded in looking for the bad guy, but also kept a eye out for a big dog wanting to eat us alive.

Always something to learn.

Behold, the wisdom of Harvey!

No doubt you've learned a lot, O_P.

Posted: 9/6/2005 2:20:51 PM EDT

[#25]

"Let me get my hat."

Posted: 9/6/2005 2:26:30 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:
Quoted:
I just realized that I have never photoshopped you...

TRG

And I am very grateful for that.

Let's keep it that way and I'll owe you a cold one.

TRG

Posted: 9/6/2005 2:31:31 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Here's to old friends. I sure do wish I could have been there to listen to you two reminisce. I'll bet there were some doozies told!

So let me be sure I understand what Harvey was saying. It's not the size of the fight in the dog, it's the size of the pile he drops that matters. Is that right?

Big pile = Big dog.

I'll tell you one good story Harvey told me today.

The big Sgt. in the first photo is Sgt. Venable. He was a huge man.

When Harvey was a slick-sleeved rookie, he was riding with Venable. They had a felony warrant for a bad guy.

They found him and the guy says, "I ain't going to jail."

Venable says, "Let me read this warrant to you.

It says, 'Texas Peace Officer', (that's me), 'you are hereby commanded to bring the body of John Doe', (that's you)...

You will notice that it doesn't say what condition that body will be in. That is up to you."

The bad guy says, "Let me get my hat."

Posted: 9/6/2005 2:35:06 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
"Let me get my hat."

I crack up every time I think of that.

Posted: 9/6/2005 2:45:39 PM EDT

[#29]

Good stuff! Thanks for sharing!

Posted: 9/6/2005 2:48:38 PM EDT

[#30]

Thanks. I remember your old thread. Your friend shoot?

Sounds like another Box O Truth comin up.

Posted: 9/6/2005 2:49:42 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Here's to old friends. I sure do wish I could have been there to listen to you two reminisce. I'll bet there were some doozies told!

So let me be sure I understand what Harvey was saying. It's not the size of the fight in the dog, it's the size of the pile he drops that matters. Is that right?

Big pile = Big dog.

I'll tell you one good story Harvey told me today.

The big Sgt. in the first photo is Sgt. Venable. He was a huge man.

When Harvey was a slick-sleeved rookie, he was riding with Venable. They had a felony warrant for a bad guy.

They found him and the guy says, "I ain't going to jail."

Venable says, "Let me read this warrant to you.

It says, 'Texas Peace Officer', (that's me), 'you are hereby commanded to bring the body of John Doe', (that's you)...

You will notice that it doesn't say what condition that body will be in. That is up to you."

The bad guy says, "Let me get my hat."

Oh, THIS is getting forwarded to a few people. Holy crap, that's funny!

Posted: 9/6/2005 2:51:55 PM EDT

[#32]

The only pics of me that made the paper I was wearing a mask.

Good job OP. You still look like you could handle your own.

Posted: 9/6/2005 3:01:16 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
The only pics of me that made the paper I was wearing a mask.

Good job OP. You still look like you could handle your own.

Thanks, Bama.

Mostly nowadays, the only thing I can handle is a large chicken fried steak.

Posted: 9/6/2005 3:02:16 PM EDT

[#34]

You looked like Elvis.

Posted: 9/6/2005 3:05:40 PM EDT

[#35]

i miss my paw.

Posted: 9/6/2005 3:09:04 PM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Here's to old friends. I sure do wish I could have been there to listen to you two reminisce. I'll bet there were some doozies told!

So let me be sure I understand what Harvey was saying. It's not the size of the fight in the dog, it's the size of the pile he drops that matters. Is that right?

Big pile = Big dog.

I'll tell you one good story Harvey told me today.

The big Sgt. in the first photo is Sgt. Venable. He was a huge man.

When Harvey was a slick-sleeved rookie, he was riding with Venable. They had a felony warrant for a bad guy.

They found him and the guy says, "I ain't going to jail."

Venable says, "Let me read this warrant to you.

It says, 'Texas Peace Officer', (that's me), 'you are hereby commanded to bring the body of John Doe', (that's you)...

You will notice that it doesn't say what condition that body will be in. That is up to you."

The bad guy says, "Let me get my hat."

Posted: 9/6/2005 3:10:29 PM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:
You looked like Elvis.

[Elvis]Thank ya. Thank ya very much.[Elvis]

Posted: 9/6/2005 3:45:55 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:
"Let me get my hat."

Nowadays, if someone would try using that line when facing arrest... "Let me get my hat," the response is a flat out, "NO."

The story's a good sign of the times. Used to be a hat was as necessary as a shirt for a man in public.

Posted: 9/6/2005 3:52:12 PM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:
Quoted:
"Let me get my hat."

Nowadays, if someone would try using that line when facing arrest... "Let me get my hat," the response is a flat out, "NO."

The story's a good sign of the times. Used to be a hat was as necessary as a shirt for a man in public.

Yep, times have indeed changed.

Harvey and I were laughing today about how we used to arrive at a call, call "10-23", and leave the car with our briefcases in it, shotgun in it, and the car keys in it.

No one would have "dared' to mess with a patrol car.

Nowadays, you'd return to an empty parking place.