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Posted: 4/17/2024 5:01:16 PM EDT
So, most people think Ohio became a state in 1803, with a political compromise to settle the border with Michigan by giving Michigan the UP, and giving Ohio the Toledo Strip.

This is wrong. In 1953 it was discovered that congress never actually finalized things in 1803.  So congress retroactively fixed that.  

The problem is that is Ex post facto laws are entirely unconstitutional.

At minimum Wisconsin should get the UP back, Michigan should get Toledo. Logically, Ohio should just be a territory of Virginia again.    
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:03:05 PM EDT
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How about no.
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:03:13 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:04:24 PM EDT
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So I  don't have to pay federal taxes and can buy a machine gun?
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:06:06 PM EDT
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The jokes write themselves…

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Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:06:23 PM EDT
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Dissolve the state?   Ban their recipes for the benefit of mankind.
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:06:36 PM EDT
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It's OK to be sad about not being a state.  

Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:07:50 PM EDT
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So, most people think Ohio became a state in 1803, with a political compromise to settle the border with Michigan by giving Michigan the UP, and giving Ohio the Toledo Strip.

This is wrong. In 1953 it was discovered that congress never actually finalized things in 1803.  So congress retroactively fixed that.  

The problem is that is Ex post facto laws are entirely unconstitutional.

At minimum Wisconsin should get the UP back, Michigan should get Toledo. Logically, Ohio should just be a territory of Virginia again.    
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You can have Toledo. They call it "little detroit" anyways
We reserve the right to steal more shoreline of lake erie at our discretion though
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:08:45 PM EDT
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What was the old joke Bug Bunny said about Ohio?
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Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:08:53 PM EDT
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So, most people think Ohio became a state in 1803, with a political compromise to settle the border with Michigan by giving Michigan the UP, and giving Ohio the Toledo Strip.

This is wrong. In 1953 it was discovered that congress never actually finalized things in 1803.  So congress retroactively fixed that.  

The problem is that is Ex post facto laws are entirely unconstitutional.

At minimum Wisconsin should get the UP back, Michigan should get Toledo. Logically, Ohio should just be a territory of Virginia again.    
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Ex Post Facto CRIMINAL LAWS are unconstitutional...

Edit to add... Edumatate yoself
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:10:19 PM EDT
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Wish I knew this Monday
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:11:20 PM EDT
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rudys hot dog, waldo balogna are good. blame north covington for the chili debacle
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:12:58 PM EDT
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But you have to keep Toledo.
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:13:50 PM EDT
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Well, I guess we have to ask Virginia what we can do.  

Pretty sure the Virginians are considering a compulsory militia service to invade Canada. So, they probably are OK with all the 3rd holes we want to drill.
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I only know the one about michigan putting in astro turf to keep u of m cheerleaders from grazing
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:18:41 PM EDT
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You know how you know someone is from Ohio? They'll tell you.
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:19:28 PM EDT
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Ex Post Facto CRIMINAL LAWS are unconstitutional...

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So, most people think Ohio became a state in 1803, with a political compromise to settle the border with Michigan by giving Michigan the UP, and giving Ohio the Toledo Strip.

This is wrong. In 1953 it was discovered that congress never actually finalized things in 1803.  So congress retroactively fixed that.  

The problem is that is Ex post facto laws are entirely unconstitutional.

At minimum Wisconsin should get the UP back, Michigan should get Toledo. Logically, Ohio should just be a territory of Virginia again.    


Ex Post Facto CRIMINAL LAWS are unconstitutional...

Edit to add... Edumatate yoself
You do know that we've got a new Supreme Court makeup?  That often values context and tradition?

The founders HATED ex post facto laws of any kind, not just criminal ones.  

"The sentiment that ex post facto laws are against natural right is so strong in the United States, that few, if any, of the State constitutions have failed to proscribe them. ...The federal constitution indeed interdicts them in criminal cases only; but they are equally unjust in civil as in criminal cases, and the omission of a caution which would have been right, does not justify the doing what is wrong. Nor ought it to be presumed that the legislature meant to use a phrase in an unjustifiable sense, if by rules of construction it can be ever strained to what is just."

Now that we're back to being part of Virgina, we might as well heed Jefferson  here.  






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Makes about as much sense as Russia attacking Pearl Harbor because some lawyer might be able to argue that it's not protected by NATO.
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Unless you are going after Trump
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:23:50 PM EDT
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If it wasn't for ohioans winning the battle of fort stephenson, & the battle of lake erie  you would be bowing to the king of england.
Col. George Croghan & Oliver Hazard Perry
"Don't give up the ship"
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:24:46 PM EDT
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I believe parts of Ohio were once included in Connecticut's 1662 charter.

Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:26:06 PM EDT
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keep your dirty mitts off my UP
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We don't want you.


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Please no.  VA doesnt want it.
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West Virginia felt the same about you losers
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I believe parts of Ohio were once included in Connecticut's 1662 charter.

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VA was there first in 1609.  I'd say let them fight, but we kinda already know VA is going to kick CT's ass worse than a transgender "girl" let loose in HS sports beats actual girls.





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(Sad noises)  You guys seemed to like it when we showed up as "other virgina" at 2020 lobby day.   Now you reject us?
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:42:06 PM EDT
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It's a state of mind and bad food.
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VA was there first in 1609.  I'd say let them fight, but we kinda already know VA is going to kick CT's ass worse than a transgender "girl" let loose in HS sports beats actual girls.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Wpdms_virginia_company_plymouth_council.png/220px-Wpdms_virginia_company_plymouth_council.png



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We'll just kick ass like before. Hillbillies will prevail!
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:43:29 PM EDT
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The end is the best part.



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That statement is not worth 2 dollars, or the energy it took to type it
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Would that make va a conservative state?
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All in one fell swoop, then we can make PR the 50th State
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The end is the best part.



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Pat Dailey - Get Your Ass To Cleveland




Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:49:00 PM EDT
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You have no clue what an ex post facto law is, do you?
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Obviously.  

I mean, sure, there's going to be some growing pains, but OH does share a water border with Canada, so VA can easily exile liberals.
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No idea.  Them Latin words are fancy?

I did spend 3 years of my life in a certain layer of hell...
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:52:00 PM EDT
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We'll take Toledo if you take Detroit.

And we're keeping the UP, eh?
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:52:54 PM EDT
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"Get some"
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I like where your priorities are at!
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:53:31 PM EDT
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Go for it
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 5:55:06 PM EDT
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There are three kinds of people in each arf thread.

1.  Those with actual knowledge.
2.  Those who do not have actual knowledge at all but can't comprehend that possibility.
3.  Those who believe that they do not have sufficient knowledge on the thread subject and are wading in for education, enlightenment and the promise of epic entertainment when group 1 delivers irrefutable evidence of group 2's utter cluelessness.

In this particular thread, I am uncharacteristically happy to be in group 3.

At this point in time, I am hopeful that you will provide savage entertainment in proving to be Group 1.

So far, I'm leaning group 1 for you.

Please prove that.  We must be entertained.
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No idea.  Them Latin words are fancy?

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Link Posted: 4/17/2024 6:00:27 PM EDT
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We'll take Toledo if you take Detroit.

And we're keeping the UP, eh?
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We'll take Toledo if you take Detroit.

And we're keeping the UP, eh?
The UP issue is between Michigan and Wisconsin. The UP feels way more WI than MI to me, but happy to let you guys fight.

Well, if Canada wants to play too, they can, but that's just an invitation for the newly expanded VA to invade them.  Canada has what, 20k people in their Army?
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I’ll take the Bob Evans’ Biscuits and Gravy if no one else wants it.
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The UP issue is between Michigan and Wisconsin. The UP feels way more WI than MI to me, but happy to let you guys fight.

Well, if Canada wants to play they can, but that's just an invitation for the newly expanded VA to invade them.  Canada has what, 20k people in their Army?
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The Army of Northern Virginia already lost one war.
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