[ARCHIVED THREAD] - OccupyWallStreet Offical Statement (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 10/4/2011 12:19:30 PM EDT
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Official Statement from Occupy Wall Street - this statement was voted on and approved by the general assembly of protesters at Liberty Square: Declaration of the Occupation of New York City As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies. As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known. They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage. They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses. They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation. They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization. They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless nonhuman animals, and actively hide these practices. They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions. They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right. They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay. They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility. They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance. They have sold our privacy as a commodity. They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit. They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce. They have donated large sums of money to politicians supposed to be regulating them. They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil. They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantive profit. They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit. They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media. They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt. They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas. They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts.* To the people of the world, We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power. Exercise your right to peaceably assemble; occupy public space; create a process to address the problems we face, and generate solutions accessible to everyone. To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal. Join us and make your voices heard! *These grievances are not all-inclusive. http://nycga.cc/2011/09/30/declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city/ |
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So it's pretty much this:
"So like, fuck those guys who took out debt and did well. I'm on my 8th year of college and I can't graduate with my Mesozoic stone age prehistoric ant-identification degree. So those evil rich guys should be forced to pay for my mistakes. Yeah! Fight the power, man! " 
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Quoted: They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage. Cop out. You took the money, you know you owe it, deadbeat. They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation. Cop out, for the most part. Be worth the wages, and you have employment. They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless nonhuman animals, and actively hide these practices. Not to mention the huge medical advances that come from animal testing, but fuck cures for diseases, right? They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions. Yeah, how dare companies try to keep their product prices competitive vs. giving in to the unions' unreasonable demands piled up year after year. They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right. Education is NOT any kind of right. The world needs ditch diggers, too, and some people are uneducatable, and can only "pass" by lowering the standards and making the "education" recieved a joke. They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay. Then stop demanding more than your labor is worth. If your work is menial, unskilled, and easily replaced, your pay should reflect that. They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. When and where, please. If you're going to make that charge, I want a citation. They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce. That'd be the capitol that you ought to be occupying, isn't it? They have donated large sums of money to politicians supposed to be regulating them. So hold the politicians responsible. They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil. Alternative energy that isn't viable without massive subsidy? Not to mention the way your environmental arm blocks construction of wind and solar farms. They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantive profit. Do some research about just how much the R&D for those medecines cost, not to mention trials and getting approved by the FDA. That shit takes a while to turn a profit. They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media. WHO controls the media, again? They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt. Is this about that fucker in Texas who killed the cop? Get over it, he did it. They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. Purest bullshit. You don't even know what "colonialism" means. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas. AND conspire to keep the price of tinfoil too high for my need for a varied cranial wardrobe. They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts.* How dare anyone fill a legal market, for the government's needs. To the people of the world, We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power. Exercise your right to peaceably assemble; occupy public space; create a process to address the problems we face, and generate solutions accessible to everyone. To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal. Join us and make your voices heard! *These grievances are not all-inclusive. |
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Official Statement from Occupy Wall Street - this statement was voted on and approved by the general assembly of protesters at Liberty Square: Declaration of the Occupation of New York City
They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage. Bullshit, pay your bills. They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization. Well I halfway agree with this but I wouldn't go as far as to say it has been poisoned. http://nycga.cc/2011/09/30/declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city/ It took me years to get the point where I feel I have finally accomplished something and it wasn't easy but I kept my head down and kept moving forward toward my goals. These people obvious want the American Dream served to them on a silver platter and aren't willing to work for it. Fuck them. |
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Translation: "Life is, like, hard and shit, so we want rich people to give us money instead of having to work." Worked for a bunch of unemployed grad students in 1917. That's a scary thought knowing that today's useful idiots are better organized. |
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Translation: "Life is, like, hard and shit, so we want rich people to give us money instead of having to work." Worked for a bunch of unemployed grad students in 1917. That's a scary thought knowing that today's useful idiots are better organized. Yes they are better organized but we are better armed. |
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I know I'm gonna get tons of hate on this, but I think it's a good thing that people are speaking out about things that they feel are important. A lot of the things they mention are legitimate grievances.
The only thing these people don't realize is that wall street would be powerless if it wasn't for the massive marauding government and the sticky-finger politicians. They're blaming the wrong guys. Imagine if they all suddenly realized that you can simply choose not to fund wall street, but you can not choose to fund the massive government, who is responsible for giving them your money. When you choose not to fund wall street, the government chooses for you (via bailouts/tax breaks). What if the government didn't have the power to throw your money around? What if the government had to operate on a set percentage rather than a grab-bag of our money? They wouldn't have 800 billion to give to businesses(without making massive, obvious cuts that would cause uproar), so the effects of the people choosing NOT to fund the businesses they don't agree with would succeed. It's called the free market, and it really does work. I still remember the day I realized this... |
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Translation: "Life is, like, hard and shit, so we want rich people to give us money instead of having to work." Worked for a bunch of unemployed grad students in 1917. That's a scary thought knowing that today's useful idiots are better organized. Yes they are better organized but we are better armed. So were the Tsar's loyalists. 
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Quoted: I know I'm gonna get tons of hate on this, but I think it's a good thing that people are speaking out about things that they feel are important. A lot of the things they mention are legitimate grievances....  Hate? Nah. Scorn and contempt? Sure, but you should be used to that by now. |
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I know I'm gonna get tons of hate on this, but I think it's a good thing that people are speaking out about things that they feel are important. A lot of the things they mention are legitimate grievances....
Hate? Nah. Scorn and contempt? Sure, but you should be used to that by now. Man you definitely should have quoted my whole post. It can easily be taken as a troll post without the second half! |
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Translation: "Life is, like, hard and shit, so we want rich people to give us money instead of having to work." Worked for a bunch of unemployed grad students in 1917. Am I missing something in my History lessons? What happened in 1917 other than the start of WWI? |
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Translation: "Life is, like, hard and shit, so we want rich people to give us money instead of having to work." Worked for a bunch of unemployed grad students in 1917. Am I missing something in my History lessons? What happened in 1917 other than the start of WWI? October Revolution ETA: US entry into WWI was in 1917. The war started in July 1914. |
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Translation: "Life is, like, hard and shit, so we want rich people to give us money instead of having to work." Worked for a bunch of unemployed grad students in 1917. That's a scary thought knowing that today's useful idiots are better organized. Yes they are better organized but we are better armed. They could be better armed in a short weekend. That's it. We need a nationwide 30-day waiting period. 
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This is what I meant. Thanks for clarifying.
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Translation: "Life is, like, hard and shit, so we want rich people to give us money instead of having to work." Worked for a bunch of unemployed grad students in 1917. Am I missing something in my History lessons? What happened in 1917 other than the start of WWI? October Revolution ETA: US entry into WWI was in 1917. The war started in July 1914. Thanks for the link. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Translation: "Life is, like, hard and shit, so we want rich people to give us money instead of having to work." Worked for a bunch of unemployed grad students in 1917. Am I missing something in my History lessons? What happened in 1917 other than the start of WWI? Yes. |
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Official Statement from Occupy Wall Street - <snip> ...our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights<snip>... In this edited form, I agree...
They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses. While I did and do disagree with the bailouts, something tells me all of this "protesting" will make "O" and his staff start preparing a strategy... remember "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste" .. Rahm may not be in D.C., but I assure you they all think along the same lines. They have donated large sums of money to politicians supposed to be regulating them. Agreed...meh All I got out of it..... |
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Translation: "Life is, like, hard and shit, so we want rich people to give us money instead of having to work." Worked for a bunch of unemployed grad students in 1917. That's a scary thought knowing that today's useful idiots are better organized. Yes they are better organized but we are better armed. They could be better armed in a short weekend. And we wont be as organized in any short time frame or into the forseeable future - training? It didnt take much or any for any other commie overthrow or commies in ww2 etc.. did it? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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It gets even better if you look up the demands which are proposed to go with this Declaration:
Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors. Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment. Demand four: Free college education. Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand. Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now. Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants. Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment. Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live. Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system. Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period. Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies. Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union. These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.
Lloyd J Hart 508-687-9153 |
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Some perspective:
What was remarkable about the Right’s tea party is that it depended on solid burghers who typically don’t have the time or inclination to protest anything. Occupy Wall Street is a project of people who do little besides protest. It’s all down to a standard operating procedure: the guitars, the drums, the street theater, the age-old chants. If the perpetual rallying cry of demonstrators is to be believed, “the whole world” does little else than “watch” activists stage protests.
The New York Times quoted one Occupy Wall Street veteran telling a newcomer: “It doesn’t matter what you’re protesting. Just protest.” That captures the coherence of the exercise, which is a giant, ideologically charged, post-adolescent sleepover complete with face paint and pizza deliveries. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Translation: "Life is, like, hard and shit, so we want rich people to give us money instead of having to work." Please quote to me the EXACT line where this statement asks for anything let alone "free money from rich people".... Its not exactly a shock that you would attempt to defend a gaggle of idiotic commies. |
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My response to them: You are all, every last one of you, a loser fucktard to the Nth degree. You accuse others of causing your condition but it is YOU who have made bad decisions in life that have led to your current state of affairs. It is YOU who have taken out loans you can not afford to repay. It is YOU who did not get the RIGHT education, the RIGHT degree, the RIGHT job, and if you did, you could not handle it. It is YOU who could not afford to pay your loans or manage your own money. It is YOU who chose by your actions as a consumer to support the companies that export jobs and import products, rather than support the companies that employ domestic workers and produce domestic product. My lack of sympathy for you is infinite, as is my hatred for you and everything you stand for. Go fuck off and die. Sincerely, CJ |
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Translation: "Life is, like, hard and shit, so we want rich people to give us money instead of having to work." Worked for a bunch of unemployed grad students in 1917. There were seperate Feburary and October Revolutions, and the core factor was the war with Germany. Many Russian soliders refused to fight. The Bolsheviks eventually prevailed because they consistently opposed the war. The situation in Russian was a serious mess. The bulk of Russian soliders were in revolution. The massess wanted to end the war. The radical left was well organized. The majority of the people were ignorant with no real understanding of economics, or leftists. There was no group supporting free markets. We have our problems, but we are in no way like Russia cerca 1917. |
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Translation: "Life is, like, hard and shit, so we want rich people to give us money instead of having to work." Please quote to me the EXACT line where this statement asks for anything let alone "free money from rich people".... It's in the demands: Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
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