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Didn't hitler at least have some substance? Or was he just empty 'hope and change' B.S. too?
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'Could' Godwin be be posted in the OP and take the win ?? ![]() 5sub |
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I don't think he is too far off. Not that Obama wants death camps, but that folks are so eager for "change" that they will welcome in evil with open arms. |
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hitler was a (real) environmentalist. 5sub |
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Keep your Powder dry and stock up on your Peanut Butter, because a change is a coming........................
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I don't think Godwin's Law applies to threads that reference Hitler in the first post. I'm pretty sure it has to be injected into a thread tangentially. |
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Obamas bad,but not that bad... |
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hitler used environmentalists the way dims use black people. |
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Don't be so sure. |
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Given the shit we've had as Presidents the past 100 years, I'm eager for some change, too. It's unfortunate that there won't be any, and the next President will be the same kind of shit as before, no matter what tripe comes from his pie-sucker to get elected.
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That's quite a distinction you're pointing out there (and one I agree with), but then again, you are Mr_Dictionary. ![]() |
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Maybe its just people looking for a handout but socialists always draw big crowds. ![]() ![]() |
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Unless there is a miracle, I now believe that the domestic political terrorist Obama Bin Laden will win the presidential election.
![]() He has charisma and the public is tired of the Clinton & Bush dynasties. He represents change and that is what people want. Sadly it will be a change for the worst. ![]() |
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Sometimes, when I see the fawning masses acting like teen age rockstar groupies, I hear faint strains of "The Internationale" ...or even the "Horst Wessel Lied". The Cult of the Personality is truly frightening.
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I was going to write a long rant about how the references between Obama and Hitler are ridiculous if not outright crude.
But then I would be arguing over the internet. But I will say that Obama securing the nomination is a good thing. I recognize that this is a gun forum, but I'd state that more is riding on this election than just your right to keep and bear arms. I will also say that people who back McCain out of blind support for their party are utterly irresponsible and poorly educated on the facts. I guess that's it. ![]() |
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No, but bad enough to get the ball rolling in that direction ![]() |
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How is it a good thing? What great things do you see him doing that offset the destruction of the 2nd? |
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Yeah, but when you click on the thread, you expect it to be something about Obama, and then, BAM!, you get hit with the unexpected nazi comparison. So in a sense, it has a Godwinish flavor to it, even if it doesn't strictly fit in the defintion. ![]() |
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I have yet to hear him offer a way to make "change", except for taking stuff from the poeple who own it.
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WTF ? Obama is a freedom-hating racist and a marxist. Osama supports are not capable of rational thought. |
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One socialist is as good as another they are all fucked up collectivist cock smokers. |
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I'm not really concerned about Obama curtailing our rights to own assault weapons, because I don't really see that as being a huge issue. There's been a sizeable increase in the purchase of assault weapons since the assault weapons ban sunsetted. More people are aware of the issue and have a stake in it as well than back in 1994. The large number of members on this forum is a testament to that. Also with Heller being heard by the Supreme Court, I'm not really concerned that more anti-gun legislation will be accepted should the Heller case have a ruling in our favor. On that level, I'm not really worried about Obama taking our guns.
Sure. This is a gun forum. But the 2nd was written to protect all of our other rights written under the constitution. It wasn't inserted into the constitution so we could go hunting or bump-firing with our friends at the range on the weekends. Look at where we are today. GW has effectively eroded and degraded a lot of our constitutional rights. Post 9/11, Congress passed the Patriot Act granting the executive branch abilities to circumvent previous checks and balances. I'm sure people here will bark that such legislation is necessary to protect the children from the terrorists. But recognize that similar legislation was created after the Reichstag Fire of 1933. Except in that case, Hitler had set fire to his own building in order to pass legislation essentially granting him the position of dictator. I'm not saying 9/11 was an inside job. I am saying that our constitutional rights are effectively being eroded. That's the status quo and it's not getting much better. Now look at the candidates. We have McCain, Clinton and Obama. McCain and Clinton are more of the status quo. Don't you find it funny that we've had a Bush or a Clinton in the White House since 1988? That's 20 years! Clinton would offer nothing new to help the American people. And on the issue of McCain...McCain is another 4 years of GW Bush. If you don't agree, look at his voting record. He's essentially voted along with Bush on every issue in the past year. I'd liken Clinton very similar to McCain in that they parrot the same issues over and over again. However, all of these are simply talking points. Their arguments are superficial soundbites. They're puppets for their corporate backers. And let me tell you that while they pander to their corporate backers, they don't really give a shit about you, the American people. McCain and Hillary are more concerned about filling the coffers of their sponsors. They support NAFTA at the expense of American jobs. And although McCain is a Republican, he has backed anti-gun laws. It would be unwise and utterly ignorant to support McCain solely because he's a Republican. It would be equally unwise to support Hillary because she's a democrat or a woman. You could make the argument that it would be unwise to support Obama because he's black and a democrat, but I would disagree. Race has nothing to do with ability to lead this country. For the racists on this forum, GW made it pretty clear that White Supremacy is a myth. So please keep the ignorant watermelon references to yourselves. Also...to the individuals making strawman attacks on my character. Please actually think about the issues and what I have to say than critique my arguments just based on my username. I have never toked up. The last time I imbibed alcohol was August 8th, 2006 - so the whole concept of negating my logic based on my non-existent potsmoking/intoxicating tendencies won't fly. |
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