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5/20/2001 2:04:55 AM EDT
I have two laptops, both of which have IR ports, both are Toshiba. I need to move my files from the old one to the new one. I have succeeded in getting the IR ports to talk, but I guess I need software on both sides to be able to do the transfer. Laplink is expensive, as is PCanywhere. Is there any Share/free ware that will do what I need? Is there a better way?
Thanks in advance!!!
5/20/2001 2:15:27 AM EDT
[#1]
I'm pretty sure you can do it using the Direct Cable Connection networking (IR is just another serial "connection").  I believe this requires Win 95B or above, but it may be Win 98 or above.  If you don't have this icon under Programs, Communications, then go to Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Windows Setup, and add it.  You may need your Windows CD.

-Troy
5/20/2001 2:19:36 AM EDT
[#2]
Thanks! I'll give a try..
5/20/2001 8:13:10 AM EDT
[#3]
Hm, IRDA is slow, at its fastest iteration it's only 4Mbps and you'll have to line them up so the IR ports face each other, since IR needs line of sight.  If you have a PC Card NIC on both machines, just make or buy a cross-over cable, turn on file sharing on the machine from which you want to grab the data, if your NICs are 10/100 it'd be very fast.  Direct cable connection is slow too, a PC serial port can only support 230Kbps.
5/20/2001 9:24:41 AM EDT
[#4]
If I remember correctly,

Once you get the IR ports talking, you can just use standard Windows File Sharing. I think. It has been awhile since I looked into this.

Yes it is slow, but it is better than a poke in the eye [;)]
5/20/2001 4:41:47 PM EDT
[#5]
All else fails look on ZDNET.COM for some shareware or freeware.
5/20/2001 4:59:55 PM EDT
[#6]
or just spend the money and break down and network em thats what i had to do with my laptop and my desktop
5/20/2001 5:02:55 PM EDT
[#7]
Look for Intellisync.

Both of my Toshiba notes had them pre-installed.
5/20/2001 5:20:17 PM EDT
[#8]

This might help..I'm not sure though, never tried it:
[url]http://www.computerwriter.com/Star/1999_upgrade_series/upgr101-8.htm#alt-direct[/url]
5/20/2001 5:52:50 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Look for Intellisync.

Both of my Toshiba notes had them pre-installed.
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The older of the two has it but the new one doesn't. It's to big to move over by floppies either.
5/20/2001 5:58:54 PM EDT
[#10]
Troy - the old laptop has Win95 and the new one has 98. 98 has the direct cable network option but the rev of 95 I have does not.

Duffypoo - Both have eithernet in their docking stations. Can I just connect them via their eithernet ports using a crossover cable, or will I need a router or something (my expertise is optical telecom systems, not IT) Both also have PCMCIA eithernet cards, and all ethernet options are 10/100. This has to be the way to go. You wouldn't happen to know which pins get crossed over to make the cable would you??  I have the tools to make cables so all I need is the pinouts.  Of course all the ethernet jacks are RJ48, FWIW.
5/21/2001 12:41:28 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Look for Intellisync.

Both of my Toshiba notes had them pre-installed.
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The older of the two has it but the new one doesn't. It's to big to move over by floppies either.
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Infrared it over!  Just kidding.

How many MB is it?  

On Intellisync there should be a command somewhere to backup the Intellisync program on floppy.  Mine took up six disks.
5/21/2001 6:18:09 AM EDT
[#12]
What I'd do is simply purchase a 4 port hub for about 30bux, create a small "network" between the two, set the drives to "share" and simply pull the files over.

No fuss, no muss.
5/21/2001 7:07:50 AM EDT
[#13]
The crossover cable is by far the cheapest (free in your case) and the fastest.

[url]http://www.gccprinters.com/support/doc/crossover.html[/url]

Nuckles.
5/21/2001 11:45:20 AM EDT
[#14]
OK - nuckles, THANKS for the pinout!!  I have made the cable and am getting ready to try the LAN card method. Time to learn all about drivers and stuff I guess. I know they're there, but lack experience in setting it up. I'll check back if I have problems.

THANKS EVERYBODY!!
5/21/2001 3:14:20 PM EDT
[#15]
hehe knucles beat me to it, i recall seeing that diagram before, i was just going to write it out.  A cross over cable can connect two computers together, if you're gonna do this all the time, or you have broadband connection, you can get a broadband router that has a tiny el cheapo switch built in.  these switches are nothing great, even the fastest switch with the fastest forwarding mode (cut through) introduces propagation delays.  
You should be able to buy one from CompUSA, or you'll need to get a pair of crimpers, two RJ45 jacks and some cable, cheaper to buy it.  I make them for my own network and for client sometimes when they don't have the factory made ones, but I also have two cable testers to test continuity, length, pin out error, etc., it's not the $5000 tester, if I installed cabling for a living I'd get one.
5/21/2001 3:23:02 PM EDT
[#16]
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hehe knucles beat me to it, i recall seeing that diagram before, i was just going to write it out.  A cross over cable can connect two computers together, if you're gonna do this all the time, or you have broadband connection, you can get a broadband router that has a tiny el cheapo switch built in.  these switches are nothing great, even the fastest switch with the fastest forwarding mode (cut through) introduces propagation delays.  
You should be able to buy one from CompUSA, or you'll need to get a pair of crimpers, two RJ45 jacks and some cable, cheaper to buy it.  I make them for my own network and for client sometimes when they don't have the factory made ones, but I also have two cable testers to test continuity, length, pin out error, etc., it's not the $5000 tester, if I installed cabling for a living I'd get one.
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Well, by luck, I have a big roll of CAT5, crimpers, RJ45's, strippers, etc..  I work for "a" phone company. Mostly on fiber optic transmission systems, but sometimes these have telemetry circuits that run over T1's. Anyway, the cable is done, and it seems "half way up". The new laptop has a green light constantly and another green flickering from data traffic (attempted traffic).  The old laptop has a constant amber (should be green) and the same data light flicker.  I think I have a configuration problem in the old one. This shouldn't be this hard just running them head to head. What protocols, client, etc. should I be using??
5/21/2001 6:56:44 PM EDT
[#17]
Well whatdayaknow,,, it WORKS!  Finally got them talking. And the connection is fast!  Now for the fun part. I've already managed to wipe out all the e-mail I received since I started using the new box. Everything since 5/4.  Oh well....
5/21/2001 6:57:44 PM EDT
[#18]
BTW, thanks all of you for your help!!!!
5/21/2001 7:12:03 PM EDT
[#19]
good for you gus! the link status LED doesn't mean much, if it's off then it actually means no connectivity, often it'd be lit but if the one wire in any pair is bad it might still blink, if you have a continuity tester it'll tell you that though they're crossed, there's no short or a bad crimp
pin 123xx6 on one end
pin 361xx2 on the other end
5/21/2001 7:49:55 PM EDT
[#20]
I'm doing this through a linksys. It is very slow. should I be using a crossover cable for it? What do I need to do to speed up the linksys trnasfer?
Scratch