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Posted: 10/24/2023 3:38:45 PM EDT
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I would of tossed it in the trash.
It's a foreign airport. How are they gonna trace it? You'll be long gone anyways. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 3:42:46 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Should have wiped that down and dropped it into a trash can somewhere. He’s a Republican. Ain’t no rescue coming. Yep. Fuck whatever business you had there, get the next flight back home to US soil. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 3:43:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If he found it before the flight landed like he says wouldn’t it have been better to surrender it to the flight crew while still in flight? Turning it over to a hostile foreign government seems stupid! Lolz. I appreciate the sentiment, but WTF would you expect the Flight Crew to do with it??? They wouldn’t touch it with a ten foot pole. 
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Posted: 10/24/2023 3:45:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Asked a stewardess to ask for the cpn. Asked the cpn to stow it in the cockpit. When plain gets back to the US, figure out the rest. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Should have dropped it in the airplane toilet.  Asked a stewardess to ask for the cpn. Asked the cpn to stow it in the cockpit. When plain gets back to the US, figure out the rest. Yeah, go running up to the Flight Attendant and tell her you got THIS! For the Captain!!! Holy fuck people.  -*******- Don’t do this.-*******- |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 3:54:23 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Should have dropped it in the airplane toilet. This! |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 3:55:09 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pick up that can Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Imagine if a citizen were to do the same thing?  They'd never be heard from again. Pick up that can You can bet your sweet ass that even though he is a low-level US politician, 1. China is going to play this big to their advantage. 2. They wont give a fuck who he is and lock his ass up for years. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 3:58:40 PM EDT
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Yup, keep mouth shut and ditch the gun. Trash can wrapped in trash is safest option.
If a cheapskate and don’t want to jettison it you could take the risk of stashing it somewhere hoping to reclaim it on your way back. I don’t recall getting a shake down at customs. Just answer their questions, maybe random checked bag search but don’t recall walking through metal detectors. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:00:44 PM EDT
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I've had this dream before, multiple times. Trash can is the answer.
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:02:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine if a citizen were to do the same thing? They'd never be heard from again. Taken straight outside and into the mobile execution van. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:17:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dumbass. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:21:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2) They scan a staggering amount of bags daily, it's not possible to not fuck up. 
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:22:50 PM EDT
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I was in the TSA security line one time (about 6 people from the guy checking ID's/tickets) and rummaged in my bag for my ticket and felt my M&P Shield and a mag in there. OOPS!
 Promptly got out of line and took the shuttle back to the long term lot, dropped off the pistol in my truck and then headed back to the airport security and wound up missing my flight. It's the only time I've ever been OK missing a flight and screwing up my itinerary. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:24:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: THis was a state senator Well shit !! That makes all the difference . The chinese will dig up chairman mao so he can have tea with the state senator . |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:33:51 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Im not going to go too hard on him. Once going on a business trip I took a backpack I had taken on a road trip. In one of the pockets was 13 rounds of .45 ACP loaded in a magazine. I only discovered it at the hotel when i was hunting for a cable. So I had gone through the security checkpoint with that in there and right up on top. Had to ditch it on location. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:40:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd take it apart in the bathroom and flush it, if it doesn't fit down the toilet, I'd make it fit. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:45:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would have tossed it in the trash. It's a foreign airport. How are they gonna trace it? You'll be long gone anyways. It’s china , they probably have video cameras in the shitter stalls watching you . I would still dump it along with my snot rag that I just used . Be very discreet . |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:49:40 PM EDT
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Stupid should hurt ! Let the chinese prosecute him , then arrest him a prosecute him when he returns . Fucking dumbass !!
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:52:16 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF just put it in your checked luggage for the return . In the USA, yes. Not if you're in a foreign country, like New Yorkistan. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 5:16:23 PM EDT
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Quoted: TSA failure! Travelers who do want to fly with a gun can do so if they keep it in a locked hard-sided container in their checked baggage. They also must declare it to the airline while checking in for their flight, the TSA said. You sure about that? Theres a better than average chance he didnt go through the normal security channels. That second paragraph should read normal passengers. Working at the airport, Ive seen vipa and senators escorted through back doors, down the one way exit lane, etc. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 5:20:47 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You sure about that? Theres a better than average chance he didnt go through the normal security channels. That second paragraph should read normal passengers. Working at the airport, Ive seen vipa and senators escorted through back doors, down the one way exit lane, etc. That is still TSA failure as who in their right mind would trust a politician? 
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Posted: 10/24/2023 5:31:18 PM EDT
[#21]
He will probably see prison time. If it was a friendly country maybe he would have gotten lucky with some fines, maybe banned from entry for a certain amount of years, and had his weapon confiscated.
HK, now essentially being run by the Chinese government doesn't seem like it will go good. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 5:46:05 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF just put it in your checked luggage for the return . I imagine that would have worked out well for me in the place I was at. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 5:48:11 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was in the TSA security line one time (about 6 people from the guy checking ID's/tickets) and rummaged in my bag for my ticket and felt my M&P Shield and a mag in there. OOPS! Promptly got out of line and took the shuttle back to the long term lot, dropped off the pistol in my truck and then headed back to the airport security and wound up missing my flight. It's the only time I've ever been OK missing a flight and screwing up my itinerary. You should be arrested, and possibly beaten to death. Maybe your dog kicked too. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 6:12:57 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m thinking the smarter move would have been to discretely wrap it in something innocuous and throw it in the nearest trash can. Spending a couple years in a Chinese prison doesn’t sound like a great time. You can buy another revolver later if you’re not in a Chinese prison. Yup, if it’s unloaded this is exactly what I’d do. IIRC, Hong Kong customs is like the US and Dubai and there isn’t customs checks until you leave the international terminals. There’s dozens of high traffic restrooms (probably with no cameras in them) to ditch it in a terminal where walking in with a carry-on isn’t suspicious… because you can be guaranteed there’s cameras EVERYWHERE else. Sit in a stall, detail wipe that bitch down for prints, wrap it up in TP and discretely drop it in the middle of a 3/4 full trash can. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 6:18:17 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup, keep mouth shut and ditch the gun. Trash can wrapped in trash is safest option. If a cheapskate and don’t want to jettison it you could take the risk of stashing it somewhere hoping to reclaim it on your way back. I don’t recall getting a shake down at customs. Just answer their questions, maybe random checked bag search but don’t recall walking through metal detectors. Depends on the airport. Heathrow we had to go through customs right off the plane… then go through again before our connecting flight. I remember Kuwait being kinda tight too. I think HK was like the IS and Dubai, but all that was 10+ years ago. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 6:21:36 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Our brightest people in government. I was hoping it was a democrat though That part of WA is pretty solid red. The closer you get to Seattle or Portland though… |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 6:26:52 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Properly registered my ass. We don't really have that here. I hate hearing republican boomers talk about registration like it sounds badass. Somewhat true, but also wrong…. State has kept a backdoor registry/ record of any handgun you purchased from a dealer for decades at least, and now also all semi auto rifles as well. Literally a form that is sent to the Dept of Licensing…. Gonna be everything actually with the new WSP system…what BS…. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 6:30:12 PM EDT
[#28]
What happens if you just leave the whole carry-on in the overhead compartment on the plane and go on into Hong Kong?
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Posted: 10/24/2023 6:47:06 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What happens if you just leave the whole carry-on in the overhead compartment on the plane and go on into Hong Kong? At a minimum, they’d know it was someone sitting on that flight. And most modern planes have camera surveillance in the cabin. I’d rather dump it in a bathroom waste bin in the terminal that sees some 200k+ passengers traveling through it. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 6:50:37 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At a minimum, they know it was someone sitting on that flight. I’d rather dump it in a bathroom waste bin in the terminal that sees some 200k+ passengers traveling through it. China scares the shit out of me, more than Russia even. As long as nobody has any evidence I ever touched it in China, I'm OK with whatever the airline and DOJ do to me back in the states eventually. (assuming I can get on a plane and go back to the states after the airline inventories my abandoned carry-on) |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 6:52:12 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've had this dream before, multiple times. nightmare material |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 6:56:56 PM EDT
[#32]
Not possible! Guns are icky in WA and the Portland TSA would have caught it!
Had to be a plant!  He will get a slap on the wrist and nothing will happen in Portland. If it were you and I it would be the federal pen. |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 7:36:18 AM EDT
[#33]
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-state-senator-acquitted-illegal-firearms-possession-hong-kong-2023-10-30/
Nothing happened to him |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 8:42:52 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: THis was a state senator Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm surprised our congress critters don't have diplomatic passports. THis was a state senator Yep who now becomes a bargaining chip in a future situation. Should have disassembled it and put parts in the John or trash can on the plane. I had a screwdriver in the backpack and passed thru an international US airport to KC. Was flagged on the way back and they took the screwdriver. |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 9:07:45 AM EDT
[#35]
"It was an honest mistake, and I expect the situation to be resolved shortly," he said. Through Biden's state dept? Guess they own him now. Hope he brought plenty of American cigarettes to give as presents to his guards. |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 9:15:22 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m surprised our congress critters don’t have diplomatic passports. He was a STATE senator not a US senator. |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 9:22:11 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It sure will be - but I don't think it's going to end up how he thinks it will. Quote HistoryQuoted: "It was an honest mistake, and I expect the situation to be resolved shortly," he said. It sure will be - but I don't think it's going to end up how he thinks it will. It happens more than you think. I am dealing with a similar issue in Turkey from 2018. Made it through DFW and Canadian security to have the Turkish screeners find my issue. Currently trying to figure out if it will cost me $2400 or $24000 because the put the put the fine on paper as follows TRY 700,00 which I am pretty sure is $2400ish US but its an odd spot for a comma and not a decimal. You will also get to deal with the FBI, DOJ, and ATF |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 9:32:45 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-state-senator-acquitted-illegal-firearms-possession-hong-kong-2023-10-30/ Nothing happened to him Thank you. Now, we need to hear what was traded for their cooperation. Hope it wasn't Taiwan or us here in the Philippines. |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 9:41:46 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would of tossed it in the trash. It's a foreign airport. How are they gonna trace it? You'll be long gone anyways. No shit. You're going to lose it anyways, I would just discreetly dump it, but give the surveillance state most country airports are, I may wait until I'm out of the airport and in a less populated area/surveilled area. Pre-TSA (mid to late 90's), I traveled to South America via military aircraft from the Columbia, SC commercial airport. I brought along a small NAA .22 revolver for our in-country visits where we traveled to Lima, Peru, a couple northern Peruvian towns, and Quito, Ecuador...unarmed. We flew into commercial airports but did't go through any metal detectors and I wanted something more than a pocket knife when in the bigger cities. Looking back now, it was throw-away, but I wish it was at least a J-Frame .38SPL! I keep my domestic and international flying shit separate from my regular gear...I do fly with firearms domestically, but I have a separate Pelican case setup for that. I bugged the shit out of my wife about carrying a spare magazine for her CCW when we were stationed in TX (mid 90's) and she left a loaded magazine in her purse back when you were able to go through TSA to just get to the terminal to wait for arrivals. She was there to meet her daughter flying in and they gave her a ton of shit (at DFW) about the loaded magazine...threatening with life sentences, 100K fines, death sentence...fucking ridiculous. They just confiscated the mag and let her through after the interogation session. I'm still pissed they took the mag! ROCK6 |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 9:43:45 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine if a citizen were to do the same thing? They'd never be heard from again. This. Put his dumbas to work in the rice fields. |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 9:43:55 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was in the TSA security line one time (about 6 people from the guy checking ID's/tickets) and rummaged in my bag for my ticket and felt my M&P Shield and a mag in there. OOPS! Promptly got out of line and took the shuttle back to the long term lot, dropped off the pistol in my truck and then headed back to the airport security and wound up missing my flight. It's the only time I've ever been OK missing a flight and screwing up my itinerary. @ZA206 I’d be curious what cost you more, the Shield or the second plane ticket? A gun like that, I’d be tempted to just disassemble/trash it in the lot somewhere and just buy a new one |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 10:03:08 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In the USA, yes. Not if you're in a foreign country, like New Yorkistan. Yep! Group travel out of the country. We flew out of Atlanta, came back via New York. Buddy got arrested for having a collapsible baton on the way back. Wasn’t a problem leaving the country witu it, but got dinged on the way back. |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 10:17:19 AM EDT
[#43]
How fucking dumb can you be?
Unreal. |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 10:18:03 AM EDT
[#44]
How fucking dumb can you be?
Unreal. "Oh, but I have a CCP and my gun is registered...in another country!" |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 10:19:49 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, but a few added steps. Should have kept quite, and if he got through, go buy a file and start removing certain features from the pistol then chuck it in the river. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’m thinking the smarter move would have been to discretely wrap it in something innocuous and throw it in the nearest trash can. Spending a couple years in a Chinese prison doesn’t sound like a great time. You can buy another revolver later if you’re not in a Chinese prison. Yep, but a few added steps. Should have kept quite, and if he got through, go buy a file and start removing certain features from the pistol then chuck it in the river. Exactly what I was thinking. The "crime" is already committed, mitigate and avoid punishment. Yet again proving to me the axiom that politician = dumbed people on Earth! |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 10:21:51 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 1) TSA is just the same fuckups that worked there prior to TSA's existence. 2) They scan a staggering amount of bags daily, it's not possible to not fuck up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No fing way! Sounds like BS. How did TSA not find it? I fly out of PDX all the time with and without checked in guns. 1) TSA is just the same fuckups that worked there prior to TSA's existence. 2) They scan a staggering amount of bags daily, it's not possible to not fuck up. Obviously mistakes cannot be 100% avoided but go read the reports on their internal testing. Their ability to catch stuff is pathetic. |
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