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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:23:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m not totally up to speed on House procedures, but I seem to recall that the rule stating that firearms are prohibited on Capitol square, in the Elizabeth Warren Building, etc was simply an edict from Filler-Corn, and that such is in the purview of the Speaker. Now that Republicans hold a 52-48 majority in the house, it should be as simple to remove that no-gun rule as it was to implement it, no? I think this should be encouraged as the very first act of the new legislature. I would like to think that Lt. Gov. Sears would champion it. Hope you guys bug the shit out of them to do what needs to be done while they're in control. Or whatever |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:23:47 PM EDT
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Two is mine!
ETA: not it isn't.  Bump for freedom! |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:24:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Two is mine! Yes, the second post is |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:25:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, the second post is One second, damn. |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:25:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well that sucks. Didn’t he help get busloads of good ol’ Virginians up in 2020? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: @dbrowne @1serreluc He's locked. WTF did he do?? Every time I get on here it seems like some regular member is locked and some troll is running free. I don’t get it…… Well that sucks. Didn’t he help get busloads of good ol’ Virginians up in 2020? Yes |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:26:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One second, damn. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes, the second post is One second, damn. Bump harder and 3 will be yours! |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:27:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: @dbrowne @1serreluc He's locked. WTF did he do?? Every time I get on here it seems like some regular member is locked and some troll is running free. I don’t get it…… Well that sucks. Didn’t he help get busloads of good ol’ Virginians up in 2020? Yes fuckin a |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:29:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m not totally up to speed on House procedures, but I seem to recall that the rule stating that firearms are prohibited on Capitol square, in the Elizabeth Warren Building, etc was simply an edict from Filler-Corn, and that such is in the purview of the Speaker. Now that Republicans hold a 52-48 majority in the house, it should be as simple to remove that no-gun rule as it was to implement it, no? I think this should be encouraged as the very first act of the new legislature. I would like to think that Lt. Gov. Sears would champion it. The response to the Jan6 riot should tell you what you need to know about how politicians want to be better and separate from common people, and the large number of common people who agree. |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:29:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:30:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:30:29 PM EDT
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If you guys organize it, I’ll show up.
I like a spicy party. |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:31:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you guys organize it, I’ll show up. I like a spicy party. That's the spirit! |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:32:13 PM EDT
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Like I said in the nuked thread, use alternate means.
Forget about anything serious here. |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:32:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you guys organize it, I’ll show up. I like a spicy party. <3 |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:33:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The response to the Jan6 riot should tell you what you need to know about how politicians want to be better and separate from common people, and the large number of common people who agree. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’m not totally up to speed on House procedures, but I seem to recall that the rule stating that firearms are prohibited on Capitol square, in the Elizabeth Warren Building, etc was simply an edict from Filler-Corn, and that such is in the purview of the Speaker. Now that Republicans hold a 52-48 majority in the house, it should be as simple to remove that no-gun rule as it was to implement it, no? I think this should be encouraged as the very first act of the new legislature. I would like to think that Lt. Gov. Sears would champion it. The response to the Jan6 riot should tell you what you need to know about how politicians want to be better and separate from common people, and the large number of common people who agree. Fuck that. Then they win. Do you accept defeat? |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:33:51 PM EDT
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Step 1) Build traction and enthusiasm
Step 2) come up with a plan Step 3) ? Step 4) take back ground |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:35:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Step 1) Build traction and enthusiasm Step 2) come up with a plan Step 3) ? Step 4) take back ground Sell patches to Florida? |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:35:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:39:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:41:33 PM EDT
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@EESmith
@Longhunter09 (I know you’re not in VA anymore) @cryo_tech @saltwatercowboy @W_E_G |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:44:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck that. Then they win. Do you accept defeat? You have to decide what you mean by win. If you think winning means that our side can do what ever we want and force the other side to accept everything we want, you are not going to win. If we are going to push, it should be for some thing more useful than being able to carry guns on a specific piece of dirt. And bringing back state premention is that useful. As far as defeat goes. Even if defeat across the board was going to happen no matter what, life is still better as a result of resisting as opposed to just giving up. So accepting defeat is the opposite of useful regardless of the outcome. Defeat is definitely not certain. Our Lieutenant Governor posed with an AR15 rifle for her campaign, that's like the opposite of defeat for us. Throwing our support behind her is how we win. |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:44:52 PM EDT
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@cryo_tech
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:45:15 PM EDT
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@Tim_In_CO
@surfanimal @sixtigers @ka_tetof1 @extorris |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:52:59 PM EDT
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@Lug1
@M35ben @hotdesert @CenterMass762 |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:54:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m thinking more like this... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/503720/837A452E-415A-44EE-A2E0-842DBC0E291C_jpe-2184318.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Suit and tie you say? I think that can work https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/169837/heatn4-mcrop_jpg-2184306.JPG I’m thinking more like this... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/503720/837A452E-415A-44EE-A2E0-842DBC0E291C_jpe-2184318.JPG Not what I had in mind, but that would be cool as eff. |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:56:00 PM EDT
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Okay first off, wtf lol we already had a thread get nuked?
Second, what happened to 1srelluc? I would tag Sigs and Cider but I know he's banned too. Third, let's talk this out. What is our goal and what do we hope to accomplish? (Don't read this is snarky, read it exactly how I said it. We should plan an effective lobby Day and figure out how to do that) |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 1:59:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Planemaker You rang?  I'm not in Virginia any more but if I'm needed, I'll be there. If help planning comms again is needed, I can help with that, too.
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Posted: 11/28/2021 2:01:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay first off, wtf lol we already had a thread get nuked? Second, what happened to 1srelluc? I would tag Sigs and Cider but I know he's banned too. Third, let's talk this out. What is our goal and what do we hope to accomplish? (Don't read this is snarky, read it exactly how I said it. We should plan an effective lobby Day and figure out how to do that) I’m thinking something along the lines of a “we got your back Sears.” Meets a Triumph. |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 2:01:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You rang? I'm not in Virginia any more but if I'm needed, I'll be there. If help planning comms again is needed, I can help with that, too. My man.
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Posted: 11/28/2021 2:11:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You have to decide what you mean by win. If you think winning means that our side can do what ever we want and force the other side to accept everything we want, you are not going to win. If we are going to push, it should be for some thing more useful than being able to carry guns on a specific piece of dirt. And bringing back state premention is that useful. As far as defeat goes. Even if defeat across the board was going to happen no matter what, life is still better as a result of resisting as opposed to just giving up. So accepting defeat is the opposite of useful regardless of the outcome. Defeat is definitely not certain. Our Lieutenant Governor posed with an AR15 rifle for her campaign, that's like the opposite of defeat for us. Throwing our support behind her is how we win. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fuck that. Then they win. Do you accept defeat? You have to decide what you mean by win. If you think winning means that our side can do what ever we want and force the other side to accept everything we want, you are not going to win. If we are going to push, it should be for some thing more useful than being able to carry guns on a specific piece of dirt. And bringing back state premention is that useful. As far as defeat goes. Even if defeat across the board was going to happen no matter what, life is still better as a result of resisting as opposed to just giving up. So accepting defeat is the opposite of useful regardless of the outcome. Defeat is definitely not certain. Our Lieutenant Governor posed with an AR15 rifle for her campaign, that's like the opposite of defeat for us. Throwing our support behind her is how we win. This for sure. And to WTC’s point - we need to remind them that their overreaching tyrannical bullshit is what spun us up before , why Youngkin, Sears and Miyares and a Republican majority in the HoD were elected. Because we’re not having any more of the lefts shit. Do your job. It’s time they step up and restore Liberty to the Commonwealth. We expect them to do what we elected them to do. First and foremost - reinstate preemption. Take whatever executive actions available, or whatever house rules available to allow on-premise carry. Do it by a special exemption/ permit/ whatever. Where there’s a will, there’s a way. Repeal all the other bullshit. Remind them that we’re not going to tolerate tyrannical acts, deprivation of freedom or usurpation of rights ANY longer. If the whole senate minority thing rears it’s head as an obstacle - remind them we’re gonna vote them all out next year. We got that. Don’t worry about it. Do what you were elected to do. And a whole lot more. |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 2:13:40 PM EDT
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I'm down to road trip again
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Posted: 11/28/2021 2:19:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This for sure. And to WTC’s point - we need to remind them that their overreaching tyrannical bullshit is what spun us up before , why Youngkin, Sears and Miyares and a Republican majority in the HoD were elected. Because we’re not having any more of the lefts shit. Do your job. It’s time they step up and restore Liberty to the Commonwealth. We expect them to do what we elected them to do. First and foremost - reinstate preemption. Take whatever executive actions available, or whatever house rules available to allow on-premise carry. Do it by a special exemption/ permit/ whatever. Where there’s a will, there’s a way. Repeal all the other bullshit. Remind them that we’re not going to tolerate tyrannical acts, deprivation of freedom or usurpation of rights ANY longer. If the whole senate minority thing rears it’s head as an obstacle - remind them we’re gonna vote them all out next year. We got that. Don’t worry about it. Do what you were elected to do. And a whole lot more. Eloquently stated as always. |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 2:21:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay first off, wtf lol we already had a thread get nuked? Second, what happened to 1srelluc? I would tag Sigs and Cider but I know he's banned too. Third, let's talk this out. What is our goal and what do we hope to accomplish? (Don't read this is snarky, read it exactly how I said it. We should plan an effective lobby Day and figure out how to do that) Yes, yesterday. It may have been slightly more confrontational with site staff though. |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 2:23:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, yesterday. It may have been slightly more confrontational with site staff though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Okay first off, wtf lol we already had a thread get nuked? Second, what happened to 1srelluc? I would tag Sigs and Cider but I know he's banned too. Third, let's talk this out. What is our goal and what do we hope to accomplish? (Don't read this is snarky, read it exactly how I said it. We should plan an effective lobby Day and figure out how to do that) Yes, yesterday. It may have been slightly more confrontational with site staff though. What thread was nuked? Was it a LD thread? |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 2:25:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What thread was nuked? Was it a LD thread? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Okay first off, wtf lol we already had a thread get nuked? Second, what happened to 1srelluc? I would tag Sigs and Cider but I know he's banned too. Third, let's talk this out. What is our goal and what do we hope to accomplish? (Don't read this is snarky, read it exactly how I said it. We should plan an effective lobby Day and figure out how to do that) Yes, yesterday. It may have been slightly more confrontational with site staff though. What thread was nuked? Was it a LD thread? Focus |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 2:27:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Focus The voice of reason, you're right. Let's focus on regaining on what what unrightfully taken from us. |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 2:28:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Focus Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Okay first off, wtf lol we already had a thread get nuked? Second, what happened to 1srelluc? I would tag Sigs and Cider but I know he's banned too. Third, let's talk this out. What is our goal and what do we hope to accomplish? (Don't read this is snarky, read it exactly how I said it. We should plan an effective lobby Day and figure out how to do that) Yes, yesterday. It may have been slightly more confrontational with site staff though. What thread was nuked? Was it a LD thread? Focus Like a laser bro |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 2:30:54 PM EDT
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Standing by.
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Posted: 11/28/2021 2:46:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/28/2021 2:47:38 PM EDT
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What about a night time LD rally/march/hike/event?
 Rattlesnake night ops. An organized orienteering course with night vision. Downtown Richmond scavenger hunt. I’ll bring the snacks. |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 2:54:33 PM EDT
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Is there the same desire to make the same presence as last time? Or have different optics? It would be nice to have some input from some of our awesome resident lawyers on talking points and legislation to promote.
@LawyerUp @NoloContendre If we could work to get support across the state for the push forward that would be awesome. We need to think of messaging. Not just removing the crap that was pushed, but making VA the most gun friendly state of all. @MiamiJBT any chance for GOA support? @Bulldog1967 where’s VCDL at? Let’s work on getting bodies to show up, a strong message, and then iron out some of the other details. |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 2:55:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What about a night time LD rally/march/hike/event? Rattlesnake night ops. An organized orienteering course with night vision. Downtown Richmond scavenger hunt. I’ll bring the snacks. In for mini sandwiches. |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 2:58:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/28/2021 2:59:35 PM EDT
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@jdsbusa
@Philmore @UH_SALT_RIFLE @FreefallE7 @JasonD |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 3:00:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What about a night time LD rally/march/hike/event? Rattlesnake night ops. An organized orienteering course with night vision. Downtown Richmond scavenger hunt. I’ll bring the snacks. In for skittles and ho-hos. |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 3:02:54 PM EDT
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@TheTower
@hsracer201 @Ammon @Seanquigley @qualityhardware |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 3:04:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/28/2021 3:04:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there the same desire to make the same presence as last time? Or have different optics? It would be nice to have some input from some of our awesome resident lawyers on talking points and legislation to promote. @LawyerUp @NoloContendre If we could work to get support across the state for the push forward that would be awesome. We need to think of messaging. Not just removing the crap that was pushed, but making VA the most gun friendly state of all. @MiamiJBT any chance for GOA support? @Bulldog1967 where’s VCDL at? Let’s work on getting bodies to show up, a strong message, and then iron out some of the other details. I would defer to VA's GOA rep John Crump. If you don't have his email I can PM it to you. I'm not sure what's doable there. I would also talk to attorney Rob Olson, who represents the GOA, and is also in VA. I would think that after this past election, get a few of those angry school moms there who are also into guns, and you'd get their attention pretty quickly. |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 3:05:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, yesterday. It may have been slightly more confrontational with site staff though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Okay first off, wtf lol we already had a thread get nuked? Second, what happened to 1srelluc? I would tag Sigs and Cider but I know he's banned too. Third, let's talk this out. What is our goal and what do we hope to accomplish? (Don't read this is snarky, read it exactly how I said it. We should plan an effective lobby Day and figure out how to do that) Yes, yesterday. It may have been slightly more confrontational with site staff though. 
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Posted: 11/28/2021 3:08:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would defer to VA's GOA rep John Crump. If you don't have his email I can PM it to you. I'm not sure what's doable there. I would also talk to attorney Rob Olson, who represents the GOA, and is also in VA. I would think that after this past election, get a few of those angry school moms there who are also into guns, and you'd get their attention pretty quickly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is there the same desire to make the same presence as last time? Or have different optics? It would be nice to have some input from some of our awesome resident lawyers on talking points and legislation to promote. @LawyerUp @NoloContendre If we could work to get support across the state for the push forward that would be awesome. We need to think of messaging. Not just removing the crap that was pushed, but making VA the most gun friendly state of all. @MiamiJBT any chance for GOA support? @Bulldog1967 where’s VCDL at? Let’s work on getting bodies to show up, a strong message, and then iron out some of the other details. I would defer to VA's GOA rep John Crump. If you don't have his email I can PM it to you. I'm not sure what's doable there. I would also talk to attorney Rob Olson, who represents the GOA, and is also in VA. I would think that after this past election, get a few of those angry school moms there who are also into guns, and you'd get their attention pretty quickly. That would be awesome man, thanks. Get us some good momentum. Good idea about the school moms. I can reach out to Ian Prior. |
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