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Originally Posted By nmxdavenn: You can not give another country the right to enforce a no fly zone over another country without something in place. That would essentially just be us starting a direct war with Russia and invading Ukraine ourselves. There would need to be some sort of mutual aid pact in place. What an idiotic thing to say. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By nmxdavenn: Originally Posted By 103: What an idiotic thing to say. Ukraine, under pretty much any reading of international law, has the authority to decide who uses its airspace. Right now it appears to only have partial POWER to enforce that. It still has the authority to declare such and to request anyone willing to help. If the United States wanted to help, there is nothing from an authority standpoint to say we cannot. Practical problems? Absolutely! But the question was under what authority can the United States enforce a no-fly zone over Ukraine. Ukraine can grant that authority. You can not give another country the right to enforce a no fly zone over another country without something in place. That would essentially just be us starting a direct war with Russia and invading Ukraine ourselves. There would need to be some sort of mutual aid pact in place. What an idiotic thing to say. WTF are you talking about? That's literally what's being stated. Zelensky asked for it. If we were to agree we sign a few papers and that's all that is necessary. Definitely not getting into an argument about WPA/AUMF shit. The way you are phrasing your response is as if Russia is in charge of Ukraine. Is that your belief? |
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Originally Posted By toeheadAR: After the last 2 years, everyone still believes everything they see in the news. You need to understand that NATO and the US were part of the plot to undermine the pro-Russian president in Ukraine and very recently there has been talk about bringing Ukraine into NATO. Ukraine has Russia's only ice-free port as well and if you saw Putin's press conference you would have heard him talking about the people that control all of the major countries have slowly dismantled their culture (ie. men competing with women, abortion, race wars, anti-family...pretty much what happened to us) and they have tried to the same in Russia. Russia, honestly, seems to be the last country I can think of that isn't controlled by these elites, cabal, NWO, whatever you want to call them. Putin said he will defeat them at all cost. Many believe they originated with Soros from Ukraine which is why he is fighting them. Maybe I am completely wrong but I wasn't wrong about the fake covid hype or the stolen election. View Quote Go ahead and tell us all about how Russia isn’t led by elites. |
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Russian Invasion Takes Massive Blow From Ukraines Military - Ukraine War Update |
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Originally Posted By toeheadAR: After the last 2 years, everyone still believes everything they see in the news. You need to understand that NATO and the US were part of the plot to undermine the pro-Russian president in Ukraine and very recently there has been talk about bringing Ukraine into NATO. Ukraine has Russia's only ice-free port as well and if you saw Putin's press conference you would have heard him talking about the people that control all of the major countries have slowly dismantled their culture (ie. men competing with women, abortion, race wars, anti-family...pretty much what happened to us) and they have tried to the same in Russia. Russia, honestly, seems to be the last country I can think of that isn't controlled by these elites, cabal, NWO, whatever you want to call them. Putin said he will defeat them at all cost. Many believe they originated with Soros from Ukraine which is why he is fighting them. Maybe I am completely wrong but I wasn't wrong about the fake covid hype or the stolen election. View Quote Mods have already asked to take this discussion elsehwhere. That's not what this thread is for. |
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Originally Posted By SilverBearX: Questions, literally, about whether US command thinks a Nuclear war with Russia is winnable. Questions about how rapidly China is arming. Alot of it is trying to get more funding. Some discussion of "space guard" . A lot of it is BS, but you can still read their faces that there are some worried people there. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SilverBearX: Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By SilverBearX: House Armed Services Comittee meeting with US Nuclear Command Live on YouTube. Some very grim faces on both sides. Can you gives us a rundown on what they say ? Questions, literally, about whether US command thinks a Nuclear war with Russia is winnable. Questions about how rapidly China is arming. Alot of it is trying to get more funding. Some discussion of "space guard" . A lot of it is BS, but you can still read their faces that there are some worried people there. |
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Originally Posted By toeheadAR: After the last 2 years, everyone still believes everything they see in the news. You need to understand that NATO and the US were part of the plot to undermine the pro-Russian president in Ukraine and very recently there has been talk about bringing Ukraine into NATO. Ukraine has Russia's only ice-free port as well and if you saw Putin's press conference you would have heard him talking about the people that control all of the major countries have slowly dismantled their culture (ie. men competing with women, abortion, race wars, anti-family...pretty much what happened to us) and they have tried to the same in Russia. Russia, honestly, seems to be the last country I can think of that isn't controlled by these elites, cabal, NWO, whatever you want to call them. Putin said he will defeat them at all cost. Many believe they originated with Soros from Ukraine which is why he is fighting them. Maybe I am completely wrong but I wasn't wrong about the fake covid hype or the stolen election. View Quote Take this bullshit and shove it |
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Originally Posted By Fourman: Originally Posted By M-1975:
"Ukrainian Madonnas are now cherishing weapons, not children." https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMyqUUFXsAM8b-y?format=jpg&name=large |
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Originally Posted By toeheadAR: After the last 2 years, everyone still believes everything they see in the news. You need to understand that NATO and the US were part of the plot to undermine the pro-Russian president in Ukraine and very recently there has been talk about bringing Ukraine into NATO. Ukraine has Russia's only ice-free port as well and if you saw Putin's press conference you would have heard him talking about the people that control all of the major countries have slowly dismantled their culture (ie. men competing with women, abortion, race wars, anti-family...pretty much what happened to us) and they have tried to the same in Russia. Russia, honestly, seems to be the last country I can think of that isn't controlled by these elites, cabal, NWO, whatever you want to call them. Putin said he will defeat them at all cost. Many believe they originated with Soros from Ukraine which is why he is fighting them. Maybe I am completely wrong but I wasn't wrong about the fake covid hype or the stolen election. View Quote You have accepted everything Russia wants you to. |
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Originally Posted By aeroworksxp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6V5CcaNcsM View Quote Timcast? It's officially not happening |
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Originally Posted By Toybasher: No nuclear war is winnable. There's only losing the least. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Toybasher: Originally Posted By SilverBearX: Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By SilverBearX: House Armed Services Comittee meeting with US Nuclear Command Live on YouTube. Some very grim faces on both sides. Can you gives us a rundown on what they say ? Questions, literally, about whether US command thinks a Nuclear war with Russia is winnable. Questions about how rapidly China is arming. Alot of it is trying to get more funding. Some discussion of "space guard" . A lot of it is BS, but you can still read their faces that there are some worried people there. No, there is only making sure your enemy looses too. |
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Holy shit:
View Quote Camera dude didn't even jump when the round impacted. |
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Originally Posted By AROKIE: Don't bring the Q quackery into this thread. There are other conspiracy threads for that View Quote At the risk of derailing further, that isn't Q stuff. Those talking points were universally lauded all over GD just a month ago. Putin's Anti-Wokeness got a lot of people on this board hard. |
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It is one thing for a society to elect change; it is another for a court of law to impose change by adjudging those who oppose it hostes humani generis, enemies of the human race. --Justice Scalia
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Originally Posted By BigReb: Shit I'm 1 mile from restone arsenal and a nuclear power plant is on the other side of it. I' m in a glow zone. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BigReb: Originally Posted By Lightning_P38: I can see the stacks from a nuke plant from my home on a clear day. The plant where we built out nuclear aresenal is about 20 miles in the other direction. We are in a color band that has no guidance. Wonder why? Shit I'm 1 mile from restone arsenal and a nuclear power plant is on the other side of it. I' m in a glow zone. Everyone thinks they are near a priority target. Most people aren't. The highest priority targets would be C3I and bomber / boomer strategic forces. ICBM fields are less likely to be priority targets because all of our rockets are now armed with single warheads - so, Russia would have to commit more than 1 warhead to reliably kill 1 warhead. Some high priority C3I/strategic targets: The White House The Pentagon Offut AFB, Nebraska NORAD, Colorado various facilities in the Federal Relocation Arc any satellite launch facilities Kitsap Sub base, Washington (SSBNs) Kings Bay Base, Georgia (SSBNs) There's no real reason to specifically target nuclear reactors. EMP would fry the transmission grid and the control circuitry. I'd be more worried if I lived next to a port, runway capable of supporting a B2 or B52, or a refinery than a nuclear power plant. |
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Originally Posted By toeheadAR: After the last 2 years, everyone still believes everything they see in the news. You need to understand that NATO and the US were part of the plot to undermine the pro-Russian president in Ukraine and very recently there has been talk about bringing Ukraine into NATO. Ukraine has Russia's only ice-free port as well and if you saw Putin's press conference you would have heard him talking about the people that control all of the major countries have slowly dismantled their culture (ie. men competing with women, abortion, race wars, anti-family...pretty much what happened to us) and they have tried to the same in Russia. Russia, honestly, seems to be the last country I can think of that isn't controlled by these elites, cabal, NWO, whatever you want to call them. Putin said he will defeat them at all cost. Many believe they originated with Soros from Ukraine which is why he is fighting them. Maybe I am completely wrong but I wasn't wrong about the fake covid hype or the stolen election. View Quote Please find another thread to post the pro-Russian Thank you. |
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“A real man does not think of victory or defeat. He plunges recklessly towards an irrational death. By doing this, you will awaken from your dreams.” -- Tsunetomo Yamamoto
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"He was seeing the enormity of the smallness of the enemy who was destroying the world.[...] If this is what has beaten us, he thought, the guilt is ours." - Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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What's to stop different countries going through back channels and hiring mercenaries to fight for Ukraine?
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Originally Posted By JustaGunNut: I don't understand the discrepancy between actual effects witnessed such as closing the Russian market until March 5th, the crazy fall of the ruble, and the claim that these sanctions won't do anything. They look effective. Before we get crazy talking about a no fly zone I think we need to let these sanctions soak a bit, hopefully encourage Russia to replace their leadership. If we try to enforce a no fly zone this will have serious consequences that are further reaching than just the encirclement of Kyiv. We will play into the Russian propaganda of being the aggressor, directly engaging Russian assets and steam rolling them. Losing the support of any possible support in Russia to replace the Russian government. Basically I think the cost/benefit analysis doesn't hit the threshold to justify enforcement yet. In a few more weeks it might be necessary. Maybe tomorrow I'll change my tune, but right now I think it is a terrible idea. The common objective shared by all from this should be the Russian people installing a new Russian government. Anything else is a sideshow honestly, Putin crossed a line that shows he can't be a part of the larger world and civilization. Say he pulls out of Ukraine, how do we really continue relations knowing he will invade and threaten nuclear war on a whim? View Quote Best case is regime change in Russia, worst case is the creation of another rogue state with a massive nuclear arsenal and nothing to lose. |
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Originally Posted By toeheadAR: After the last 2 years, everyone still believes everything they see in the news. You need to understand that NATO and the US were part of the plot to undermine the pro-Russian president in Ukraine and very recently there has been talk about bringing Ukraine into NATO. Ukraine has Russia's only ice-free port as well and if you saw Putin's press conference you would have heard him talking about the people that control all of the major countries have slowly dismantled their culture (ie. men competing with women, abortion, race wars, anti-family...pretty much what happened to us) and they have tried to the same in Russia. Russia, honestly, seems to be the last country I can think of that isn't controlled by these elites, cabal, NWO, whatever you want to call them. Putin said he will defeat them at all cost. Many believe they originated with Soros from Ukraine which is why he is fighting them. Maybe I am completely wrong but I wasn't wrong about the fake covid hype or the stolen election. View Quote How long have you been a pilot? |
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: So do they think it's winnable? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By SilverBearX: Questions, literally, about whether US command thinks a Nuclear war with Russia is winnable. Questions about how rapidly China is arming. Alot of it is trying to get more funding. Some discussion of "space guard" . A lot of it is BS, but you can still read their faces that there are some worried people there. So do they think it's winnable? Well, the question was in response to an apparent memo of some type where US Command suggested that it was. The answer however was that they were unaware of that memo and it was not their job to decide if it was "winnable ". |
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Originally Posted By lorazepam: You willing to hit china, india, pakistan too? If nukes start flying, everyone will be setting them off. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By doolyd: Did anybody see that Oliver Stone JFK documentary. Not sure if it is accurate but something along the lines of - during the Cuban Missile crisis we had calculated how many Americans would die if we nuked Russia first. It was around 40 million. They were very close to doing it. I wonder what the adjusted estimation is and how close we are to doing it. I mean, it's going to happen, I just see no other way. Strike first and hope that what we have seen from them so far is also an indication of their Nuclear capabilities. Yeah, I know, hope is not a strategy but Putin isn't going to "lose" this no matter what he has to do. You willing to hit china, india, pakistan too? If nukes start flying, everyone will be setting them off. Why would they all want to make themselves targets? |
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Originally Posted By PurpleOtter: Best case is regime change in Russia, worst case is the creation of another rogue state with a massive nuclear arsenal and nothing to lose. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PurpleOtter: Originally Posted By JustaGunNut: I don't understand the discrepancy between actual effects witnessed such as closing the Russian market until March 5th, the crazy fall of the ruble, and the claim that these sanctions won't do anything. They look effective. Before we get crazy talking about a no fly zone I think we need to let these sanctions soak a bit, hopefully encourage Russia to replace their leadership. If we try to enforce a no fly zone this will have serious consequences that are further reaching than just the encirclement of Kyiv. We will play into the Russian propaganda of being the aggressor, directly engaging Russian assets and steam rolling them. Losing the support of any possible support in Russia to replace the Russian government. Basically I think the cost/benefit analysis doesn't hit the threshold to justify enforcement yet. In a few more weeks it might be necessary. Maybe tomorrow I'll change my tune, but right now I think it is a terrible idea. The common objective shared by all from this should be the Russian people installing a new Russian government. Anything else is a sideshow honestly, Putin crossed a line that shows he can't be a part of the larger world and civilization. Say he pulls out of Ukraine, how do we really continue relations knowing he will invade and threaten nuclear war on a whim? Best case is regime change in Russia, worst case is the creation of another rogue state with a massive nuclear arsenal and nothing to lose. I hope that Russian generals/oligarchs are starting to realize that a bullet to the back of Putin's head might be the best way out of a bad situation that is likely just going to get worse. |
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“A real man does not think of victory or defeat. He plunges recklessly towards an irrational death. By doing this, you will awaken from your dreams.” -- Tsunetomo Yamamoto
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Originally Posted By Tango_6: For once I am thankful to be in South AL. Ain't shit around these rednecks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tango_6: Originally Posted By BigReb: Shit I'm 1 mile from restone arsenal and a nuclear power plant is on the other side of it. I' m in a glow zone. For once I am thankful to be in South AL. Ain't shit around these rednecks. Well, other than the nuke plant, Maxwell AFB, Ft. Rucker, and the port of Mobile. Sorry, you're just as dead. Maybe if you're in Butler you're OK. |
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Screename of the person(s) running this website? https://www.saintjavelin.com/
Is it legitimate? Who knows but they say they are donating. Of course that iconic graphic is now being sold everywhere. |
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Originally Posted By PurpleOtter: Best case is regime change in Russia, worst case is the creation of another rogue state with a massive nuclear arsenal and nothing to lose. View Quote Russia has been a rogue state for its entire history,it’s just that everyone else occasionally pretend it isn’t. Every since US President misunderstood and miscalculated Putin. Those of us who did get it were called paranoid. |
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View Quote That looks like anti-nuclear weapon propaganda. Why do they always calculate that all nuclear bombs are the Tsar Bomba? They're not. |
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The Taliban controls Kabul. The cartels control the border. The criminals control the street. COVID Delta controls the economy. And Biden doesn't control anything..” —realwar |
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View Quote And Biden went to Delaware. Yeah he’s a worthless piece of shit but he’s still POTUS and should have stayed in Washington. And America will have to listen to his lies tonight. Fuck him. |
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Originally Posted By Tango_6: Nice for those with memberships. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tango_6: Originally Posted By Jackal-FnM: Now it is an avatar up for grabs! (Have to do your own resizing) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/457660/PicsArt_03-01-02_19_52_jpg-2297840.JPG Nice for those with memberships. Easy solution, just get one! |
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof: I hope that Russian generals/oligarchs are starting to realize that a bullet to the back of Putin's head might be the best way out of a bad situation that is likely just going to get worse. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By PurpleOtter: Originally Posted By JustaGunNut: I don't understand the discrepancy between actual effects witnessed such as closing the Russian market until March 5th, the crazy fall of the ruble, and the claim that these sanctions won't do anything. They look effective. Before we get crazy talking about a no fly zone I think we need to let these sanctions soak a bit, hopefully encourage Russia to replace their leadership. If we try to enforce a no fly zone this will have serious consequences that are further reaching than just the encirclement of Kyiv. We will play into the Russian propaganda of being the aggressor, directly engaging Russian assets and steam rolling them. Losing the support of any possible support in Russia to replace the Russian government. Basically I think the cost/benefit analysis doesn't hit the threshold to justify enforcement yet. In a few more weeks it might be necessary. Maybe tomorrow I'll change my tune, but right now I think it is a terrible idea. The common objective shared by all from this should be the Russian people installing a new Russian government. Anything else is a sideshow honestly, Putin crossed a line that shows he can't be a part of the larger world and civilization. Say he pulls out of Ukraine, how do we really continue relations knowing he will invade and threaten nuclear war on a whim? Best case is regime change in Russia, worst case is the creation of another rogue state with a massive nuclear arsenal and nothing to lose. I hope that Russian generals/oligarchs are starting to realize that a bullet to the back of Putin's head might be the best way out of a bad situation that is likely just going to get worse. Better if they shoot him in the face, so that he has a moment to grasp that he has fucked up. |
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Originally Posted By AnalogKid: As the devil works in mysterious ways, so does the Lord. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AnalogKid: Originally Posted By nickmemphis: Originally Posted By Veccio: Originally Posted By nickmemphis: I'll bet $87 That usually in Ukraine the ground is frozen hard at this time nearly every year. And now it isn't unexpectedly. Oops. That's going to trigger a whole raft of angry people, saying that. As the devil works in mysterious ways, so does the Lord. Rain in Kyiv for the next two days. |
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Originally Posted By lorazepam: You willing to hit china, india, pakistan too? If nukes start flying, everyone will be setting them off. View Quote Would be stupid to launch a preemptive strike against russia, but not china + NK as well. Should probably include Iran at that point. I don't see the rationale for hitting Pakistan or India though. |
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Originally Posted By Birddog1911: I think you're missing the point that Kumala feels the need to dumb it down for that target audience. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Birddog1911: Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Originally Posted By mnd6563: Saw this posted by Andy Ago, all I can says is wow! Please keep Biden alive until the next election!! VP Kamala Harris went on black radio to explain the war: "Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine so basically that's wrong." I would ask someone to please God tell me he's paraphrasing, but alas, I honestly believe that's the idiot whore's level of intelligence. We have a dementia patient and a person with a sixth grade education in charge of America. I have an elderly friend who has a sixth grade education. Nice man but uneducated, I had to explain letter box movie format to him. I can't imagine the intel briefings for these two. I mean how much do you have to dumb it down? having to dumb it down for politicians is bad enough but Christ on a box car! I think you're missing the point that Kumala feels the need to dumb it down for that target audience. Yeah, I reread it after your post. I read it as she went BACK on the radio. But I am on extra meds. In the long post I made earlier I actually fell asleep writing it. |
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Originally Posted By Burnsy87: Yeah I'm near STRATCOM. ETA: lmao that timing with the tweet right above View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Burnsy87: Originally Posted By Tango_6: For once I am thankful to be in South AL. Ain't shit around these rednecks. Yeah I'm near STRATCOM. ETA: lmao that timing with the tweet right above I need some SPF 3500. |
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Originally Posted By sulman: Yep they're designed for this very scenario. This was also the mission of the Harrier originally, with the understanding every base in Nato would be gone within an hour if things went hot, so the ability to run off highways and supermarket parking lots is a big deal. View Quote When I was in Moscow back in the 80s, we toured their big aeronautical museum. They call it "unimproved runways" and "improvised runways" while they were bragging about their fighters. I don't remember what exact Russian word they used, but our KGB translator used those words in English. |
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