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Posted: 9/1/2023 10:13:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Oh Russia! Plumbing new depths of barbarism…on your own troops. I’m guessing no one has told her chances are she will never hear of her don again if he is killed, or that Russia ships body for quit disposal in meat cubes. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_3447-2939655.jpg
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Posted: 9/1/2023 10:14:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: The State Border Committee of the Republic of Belarus declares that a Polish helicopter violated the Belarusian-Polish border The Civil Procedure Code of the Republic of Belarus published a video showing how a helicopter crosses the Belarusian-Polish border near the Polish village of Mostovlyany. It is alleged that the video shows a Polish Mi-24 helicopter, which, according to the CPC, violated the border on September 1 and “flew up to a depth of 1200 meters into the territory of Belarus, and then returned back.” The published video shows exactly the return of the helicopter to the territory of Poland, while in the first frame the helicopter is ≈260 meters from the border with Poland. Later it became known that Wojciech Filimonovich, Chargé d'Affaires of Poland in Belarus, was summoned to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in connection with the incident. https://t.me/Hajun_BY/7320 Meh. Belarus intruded with two helos. I figure Poland has one more freebie gran tour it is owed. |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 10:15:55 PM EDT
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Nobel Prize winner and editor-in-chief of Novaya Gazeta Dmitry Muratov is today recognized as a foreign agent.
In addition to him in the new list: - comedian Ruslan Bely; — economist Konstantin Sonin; - Deputy Maxim Reznik; — journalists Denis Kataev and Ksenia Larina; - historian Mairbek Vachagaev; - oppositionists Yevgeny Karpov and Oleg Radzinsky; - anti-war movement "New Tyva". https://t.me/moscowtimes_ru/15442 |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 10:20:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: thanosnap]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: Thing is, we can't "make" it $30 or $60 or anything else because we don't set the price of oil worldwide. But though the G7 and EU we do control 2/3rds of the world economy. Things like the Fed, IMF, World Bank, SWIFT etc etc... that's in our pocket. When the war started we stole $300 billion of Russia's money, flat out stole it. A Russian company can't get a Western bank account or move money in and out of an existing one. We can, and did, set the price of their oil, mostly through the insurance companies that insure tankers. Except for China and India, which buy cheaper than anyone else. Yale economics professor Sonnenfeld addresses Russia's economic situation very adeptly:  The true impact of a year of war on Russia's economy | DW Business Special 3:00: Sonnenfeld says that the World Bank and others get their information from Russian state owned Rosstat. One little problem is that Rosstat has had a change of leadership 3 times. Why? Sonnenfeld says it’s because Putin is looking for lackeys who will state the invented data he wants stated. 3:30: As a member of the IMF and the World Bank, Russia is required to submit data to the IMF and World Bank. “They are not submitting.” By the second quarter of 2022, Russia stopped submitting the data. They have no idea what Russia's imports and exports are or foreign direct investment anymore. 4:00: Putin wakes up in the morning and decides what the GDP should be. 5:40: Every key industrial sector is down. The auto industry is down 99%. 10:45: Ruble is not being traded. You cannot know the value of something you cannot buy. We are going off the value Russia tells us it is. Try to buy a ruble, you can't unless you go to Russia. 19:20: Because we've fixed the price of oil, it actually costs Russia more money to pump it out of the ground than they are selling to China and India for. We wish Russia would sell more oil because they are selling it at a loss. 20:30: Russia’s economy is smaller than that of Chile. 23:20: Putin can’t sell natural gas to India and China because they cannot liquify it in bulk and they don’t have the pipelines he would need to send it in vapor form. It would take 6 years to build those pipelines. 25:25: The mayor of Moscow, until he was silenced, admitted in April 2022 that hundreds of thousands of idled workers “were in the streets with nothing to do.” 25:50: 3 million highly sophisticated workers have fled Russia. |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 10:22:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mbinky: Guess what this is. i told them fun fact if you paint an Abrams NATO camo the colors line up every 90 degrees. Cool. https://i.postimg.cc/JnmP1xM7/pic.jpg Besides the fact everyone showed up like they came from Red Dawn they are apparently doing ok.  Proper tank paint |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 10:26:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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https://twitter.com/rendeiro_silva/status/1697717444322746862
🌐 Place: #Kreminna 🗓 Date: ~31.08.2023 🇺🇦 Unit: 95 ODSHBr 📌 Geolocation: 00:09 - 49.046384,38.200272 📂 Description: Destruction of the Russian ammunition warehouse. Kreminna, Luhansk region. ❗️ Source https://t.me/WarArchive_ua/4604 |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 10:27:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voyager3: I doubt there are many people in Crimea who love Russia enough to go fighting an insurgency. It's one thing to vote in a referendum when you're promised that all the fighting business will be taken care of by the little green men and they get to join the wealthier and allegedly better run country, and a whole different thing to do the dying for the country that didn't deliver on any promise. Any who felt that way have probably joined up by now. I think the number of people who DGAF which country they were living in and only cared about their economic well-being is greatly underestimated. The war made a huge change pushing the previously indifferent Ukrainians to oppose Russia but I doubt it managed to generate an equal shift in the pro-Russian regions. Russia stole Crimea from Ukraine. But, that doesn't mean Crimeans were dissatisfied with it. Crimeans were favorable toward Putin, secession, and very skeptical of the Kyiv government. Pew Research has done polling in Europe, including a poll in May 2014 in Ukraine, after Crimea was taken but before Donbas was invaded. The poll said Crimeans thought the referendum was legit. But the rest of Ukraine strongly favored remaining unified under Kyiv, contrary to Russia's claims. Pew poll report. It's worth a look. Politically, I don't know if Crimea can effectively go back to Kyiv or not. Crimeans might change their tune if the Kremlin collapses. We'll have to wait and see. It might make sense to have an autonomous Crimean Republic that is loosely aligned with Ukraine and is fully demilitarized by both sides. But Russia can never put military forces there again. |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 10:31:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Russia stole Crimea from Ukraine. But, that doesn't mean Crimeans were dissatisfied with it. Crimeans were favorable toward Putin, secession, and very skeptical of the Kyiv government. Pew Research has done polling in Europe, including a poll in May 2014 in Ukraine, after Crimea was taken but before Donbas was invaded. The poll said Crimeans thought the referendum was legit. But the rest of Ukraine strongly favored remaining unified under Kyiv, contrary to Russia's claims. Pew poll report. It's worth a look. Politically, I don't know if Crimea can effectively go back to Kyiv or not. Crimeans might change their tune if the Kremlin collapses. We'll have to wait and see. It might make sense to have an autonomous Crimean Republic that is loosely aligned with Ukraine and is fully demilitarized by both sides. But Russia can never put military forces there again. I read the “Russia has to be destroyed to save Russia” comment earlier and cringed a little, but…man, that shit’s kinda true. It’s hard to imagine Russians moving on without seeing that national little man syndrome crushed. Putin promised schoolchildren that he would not lose the war It is impossible to defeat Russia in the war, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Friday as part of the open lesson "Talk about the important." “We were absolutely invincible. And now we are like that,” Putin said, addressing 30 schoolchildren - winners of competitions and olympiads, who were selected by the Ministry of Education and Rosmolodezh for the presidential staging event. According to Putin, he believed in the invincibility of Russia when he read the letters of his grandfather, a peasant from near Tver. In these letters, the village man refers to his son as "you", which, according to the president, testifies to the "deep internal culture of the people." In the letter, Putin's grandfather tells his son about the death of his wife, who, before her death, asked those around her "not to cry." This, according to the president, is what is meant when it comes to traditional values "underlying relations in our society." “I understood why we won the Great Patriotic War: it is impossible to defeat such a people with such a mindset,” Putin shared his conclusion. He added that there are “majority” of such families in Russia, and this is “very important”. https://t.me/moscowtimes_ru/15439 |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 10:31:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GBTX01: Tungsten rain...
That truck door looks like Swiss cheese. Was that a femur in the cab? I guess that counts as a mobile crematorium for one use. And one russian sap that will go down as missing and never returned to his family or hometown. |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 10:33:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Russia stole Crimea from Ukraine. But, that doesn't mean Crimeans were dissatisfied with it. Crimeans were favorable toward Putin, secession, and very skeptical of the Kyiv government. Pew Research has done polling in Europe, including a poll in May 2014 in Ukraine, after Crimea was taken but before Donbas was invaded. The poll said Crimeans thought the referendum was legit. But the rest of Ukraine strongly favored remaining unified under Kyiv, contrary to Russia's claims. Pew poll report. It's worth a look. Politically, I don't know if Crimea can effectively go back to Kyiv or not. Crimeans might change their tune if the Kremlin collapses. We'll have to wait and see. It might make sense to have an autonomous Crimean Republic that is loosely aligned with Ukraine and is fully demilitarized by both sides. But Russia can never put military forces there again. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By voyager3: I doubt there are many people in Crimea who love Russia enough to go fighting an insurgency. It's one thing to vote in a referendum when you're promised that all the fighting business will be taken care of by the little green men and they get to join the wealthier and allegedly better run country, and a whole different thing to do the dying for the country that didn't deliver on any promise. Any who felt that way have probably joined up by now. I think the number of people who DGAF which country they were living in and only cared about their economic well-being is greatly underestimated. The war made a huge change pushing the previously indifferent Ukrainians to oppose Russia but I doubt it managed to generate an equal shift in the pro-Russian regions. Russia stole Crimea from Ukraine. But, that doesn't mean Crimeans were dissatisfied with it. Crimeans were favorable toward Putin, secession, and very skeptical of the Kyiv government. Pew Research has done polling in Europe, including a poll in May 2014 in Ukraine, after Crimea was taken but before Donbas was invaded. The poll said Crimeans thought the referendum was legit. But the rest of Ukraine strongly favored remaining unified under Kyiv, contrary to Russia's claims. Pew poll report. It's worth a look. Politically, I don't know if Crimea can effectively go back to Kyiv or not. Crimeans might change their tune if the Kremlin collapses. We'll have to wait and see. It might make sense to have an autonomous Crimean Republic that is loosely aligned with Ukraine and is fully demilitarized by both sides. But Russia can never put military forces there again. That makes sense except Russia can’t be trusted to stay out. They would try the same ploy again to “save Russian speakers.” I would like to see what credible “promise” the west would come up with that would absolutely guarantee Crimea is not subverted to Russian control. Russia absolutely cannot survive in its present form without friendly control of Crimea. They need to be able to have unrestricted warm water port access even though they commit war crimes every day, which they will all along the Ukraine border and in Crimea. Paper promises are not worth the ink used. The only thing that restricts Russia is force. |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 10:34:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: This is incorrect. Destroying them gives us one less adversary on the global geopolitical playing field. Remember that Russia, and the Soviet Union before them, were the largest source of instability in countries worldwide. By eliminating their ability to destabilize countries worldwide, we can work far less to achieve world stability. So, no, we don't want prosperity for Russia, we tried to give them that in the 90s and they chose to go a different route (empire) and now we (and Europe and especially Ukraine) are paying the price for our inattention. The price of oil isn't set by the US regardless of how the idiots in DC try to spin it. Oil is a global marketplace. Further, by stupidly restricting our own production, we are enabling *higher* prices, not lower ones, on the world oil market, precisely the opposite of what we should be doing. The last bit is how we control oil prices. Open up the leases, suck that shit out of the ground and get oil down to 40 bucks a barrel, and russia collapses toot sweet.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 10:36:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Oh Russia! Plumbing new depths of barbarism…on your own troops. I’m guessing no one has told her chances are she will never hear of her don again if he is killed, or that Russia ships body for quit disposal in meat cubes. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_3447-2939655.jpg
I guess "We are lucky they're so fucking stupid." has two sides to it. |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 10:40:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thanosnap: But though the G7 and EU we do control 2/3rds of the world economy. Things like the Fed, IMF, World Bank, SWIFT etc etc... that's in our pocket. When the war started we stole $300 billion of Russia's money, flat out stole it. A Russian company can't get a Western bank account or move money in and out of an existing one. We can, and did, set the price of their oil, mostly through the insurance companies that insure tankers. Except for China and India, which buy cheaper than anyone else. Yale economics professor Sonnenfeld addresses Russia's economic situation very adeptly:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU0resswOds3:00: Sonnenfeld says that the World Bank and others get their information from Russian state owned Rosstat. One little problem is that Rosstat has had a change of leadership 3 times. Why? Sonnenfeld says it’s because Putin is looking for lackeys who will state the invented data he wants stated. 3:30: As a member of the IMF and the World Bank, Russia is required to submit data to the IMF and World Bank. “They are not submitting.” By the second quarter of 2022, Russia stopped submitting the data. They have no idea what Russia's imports and exports are or foreign direct investment anymore. 4:00: Putin wakes up in the morning and decides what the GDP should be. 5:40: Every key industrial sector is down. The auto industry is down 99%. 10:45: Ruble is not being traded. You cannot know the value of something you cannot buy. We are going off the value Russia tells us it is. Try to buy a ruble, you can't unless you go to Russia. 19:20: Because we've fixed the price of oil, it actually costs Russia more money to pump it out of the ground than they are selling to China and India for. We wish Russia would sell more oil because they are selling it at a loss. 20:30: Russia’s economy is smaller than that of Chile. 23:20: Putin can’t sell natural gas to India and China because they cannot liquify it in bulk and they don’t have the pipelines he would need to send it in vapor form. It would take 6 years to build those pipelines. 25:25: The mayor of Moscow, until he was silenced, admitted in April 2022 that hundreds of thousands of idled workers “were in the streets with nothing to do.” 25:50: 3 million highly sophisticated workers have fled Russia. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 10:48:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Well the prize is we have a noose around Russia's neck. And according to Thomas Graham, director of Russia policy during the Bush years, the hawks and doves in the Biden administration are trying to figure out just how far to tighten it:  Keynote Address: Thinking about Russia Strategically | Thomas Graham |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 10:51:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thanosnap: But though the G7 and EU we do control 2/3rds of the world economy. Things like the Fed, IMF, World Bank, SWIFT etc etc... that's in our pocket. When the war started we stole $300 billion of Russia's money, flat out stole it. A Russian company can't get a Western bank account or move money in and out of an existing one. We can, and did, set the price of their oil, mostly through the insurance companies that insure tankers. Except for China and India, which buy cheaper than anyone else. Yale economics professor Sonnenfeld addresses Russia's economic situation very adeptly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU0resswOds3:00: Sonnenfeld says that the World Bank and others get their information from Russian state owned Rosstat. One little problem is that Rosstat has had a change of leadership 3 times. Why? Sonnenfeld says it’s because Putin is looking for lackeys who will state the invented data he wants stated. 3:30: As a member of the IMF and the World Bank, Russia is required to submit data to the IMF and World Bank. “They are not submitting.” By the second quarter of 2022, Russia stopped submitting the data. They have no idea what Russia's imports and exports are or foreign direct investment anymore. 4:00: Putin wakes up in the morning and decides what the GDP should be. 5:40: Every key industrial sector is down. The auto industry is down 99%. 10:45: Ruble is not being traded. You cannot know the value of something you cannot buy. We are going off the value Russia tells us it is. Try to buy a ruble, you can't unless you go to Russia. 19:20: Because we've fixed the price of oil, it actually costs Russia more money to pump it out of the ground than they are selling to China and India for. We wish Russia would sell more oil because they are selling it at a loss. 20:30: Russia’s economy is smaller than that of Chile. 23:20: Putin can’t sell natural gas to India and China because they cannot liquify it in bulk and they don’t have the pipelines he would need to send it in vapor form. It would take 6 years to build those pipelines. 25:25: The mayor of Moscow, until he was silenced, admitted in April 2022 that hundreds of thousands of idled workers “were in the streets with nothing to do.” 25:50: 3 million highly sophisticated workers have fled Russia. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thanosnap: Originally Posted By planemaker: Thing is, we can't "make" it $30 or $60 or anything else because we don't set the price of oil worldwide. But though the G7 and EU we do control 2/3rds of the world economy. Things like the Fed, IMF, World Bank, SWIFT etc etc... that's in our pocket. When the war started we stole $300 billion of Russia's money, flat out stole it. A Russian company can't get a Western bank account or move money in and out of an existing one. We can, and did, set the price of their oil, mostly through the insurance companies that insure tankers. Except for China and India, which buy cheaper than anyone else. Yale economics professor Sonnenfeld addresses Russia's economic situation very adeptly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU0resswOds3:00: Sonnenfeld says that the World Bank and others get their information from Russian state owned Rosstat. One little problem is that Rosstat has had a change of leadership 3 times. Why? Sonnenfeld says it’s because Putin is looking for lackeys who will state the invented data he wants stated. 3:30: As a member of the IMF and the World Bank, Russia is required to submit data to the IMF and World Bank. “They are not submitting.” By the second quarter of 2022, Russia stopped submitting the data. They have no idea what Russia's imports and exports are or foreign direct investment anymore. 4:00: Putin wakes up in the morning and decides what the GDP should be. 5:40: Every key industrial sector is down. The auto industry is down 99%. 10:45: Ruble is not being traded. You cannot know the value of something you cannot buy. We are going off the value Russia tells us it is. Try to buy a ruble, you can't unless you go to Russia. 19:20: Because we've fixed the price of oil, it actually costs Russia more money to pump it out of the ground than they are selling to China and India for. We wish Russia would sell more oil because they are selling it at a loss. 20:30: Russia’s economy is smaller than that of Chile. 23:20: Putin can’t sell natural gas to India and China because they cannot liquify it in bulk and they don’t have the pipelines he would need to send it in vapor form. It would take 6 years to build those pipelines. 25:25: The mayor of Moscow, until he was silenced, admitted in April 2022 that hundreds of thousands of idled workers “were in the streets with nothing to do.” 25:50: 3 million highly sophisticated workers have fled Russia. Sonnenfeld is a dufus. There is already a natural gas pipeline between Russia and China. But, it supposedly doesn't have a very high throughput. And, again, we *can't* fix the price of oil because it's a *global* market and we are not the only producers or consumers. It's not a surprise that Russia lies about its economy since it lies about everything else. Thing is, the same can be said of ChinaIsAsshoe. It will be interesting to see how quickly Russia implodes (and frankly I'm surprised they haven't already done so). And, once it implodes, it is unlikely to ever be rebuilt. Which is a good thing. |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 10:54:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: That makes sense except Russia can’t be trusted to stay out. They would try the same ploy again to “save Russian speakers.” I would like to see what credible “promise” the west would come up with that would absolutely guarantee Crimea is not subverted to Russian control. Russia absolutely cannot survive in its present form without friendly control of Crimea. They need to be able to have unrestricted warm water port access even though they commit war crimes every day, which they will all along the Ukraine border and in Crimea. Paper promises are not worth the ink used. The only thing that restricts Russia is force. Russia has Novorossiyisk for a Black Sea port. They don't need Sevastopol. It's purely an emotional play based on empire. As a security guarantee, Ukraine must have security on their southern side. No Russian military in Crimea, one way or another. |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 10:58:05 PM EDT
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I don’t care if it’s a dupe. I don’t even care if it’s just trolling. It’s still funny. |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 10:58:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thanosnap: Well the prize is we have a noose around Russia's neck. And according to Thomas Graham, director of Russia policy during the Bush years, the hawks and doves in the Biden administration are trying to figure out just how far to tighten it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkli-wfOv2MQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By thanosnap: Originally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Well the prize is we have a noose around Russia's neck. And according to Thomas Graham, director of Russia policy during the Bush years, the hawks and doves in the Biden administration are trying to figure out just how far to tighten it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkli-wfOv2MCausing the collapse of Russia will hopefully have the same impact as the collapse of the former Soviet Union. Some former Soviet-block countries have done well for themselves because of the collapse. We'll see if the same happens once the Russian boot is removed from its neighbors' necks. |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 10:59:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Proper tank paint Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By mbinky: Guess what this is. i told them fun fact if you paint an Abrams NATO camo the colors line up every 90 degrees. Cool. https://i.postimg.cc/JnmP1xM7/pic.jpg Besides the fact everyone showed up like they came from Red Dawn they are apparently doing ok. Proper tank paint  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 11:04:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/woodland_abrams_back_in_europe_nature_he-2939958.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By mbinky: Guess what this is. i told them fun fact if you paint an Abrams NATO camo the colors line up every 90 degrees. Cool. https://i.postimg.cc/JnmP1xM7/pic.jpg Besides the fact everyone showed up like they came from Red Dawn they are apparently doing ok. Proper tank paint https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/woodland_abrams_back_in_europe_nature_he-2939958.JPG BRING BACK M81! |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 11:05:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: thanosnap]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: Causing the collapse of Russia will hopefully have the same impact as the collapse of the former Soviet Union. Some former Soviet-block countries have done well for themselves because of the collapse. We'll see if the same happens once the Russian boot is removed from its neighbors' necks. The problem, according to Graham, is their economy might collapse but they won't break up. Russia is 80% ethnic Russian now so they'll stay together but be really poor, unable to govern themselves or feed themselves. The North Caucasus is not ethnically Russian and they may lose that though: https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/instability-russias-north-caucasus-region  
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Posted: 9/1/2023 11:08:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Russia has Novorossiyisk for a Black Sea port. They don't need Sevastopol. It's purely an emotional play based on empire. As a security guarantee, Ukraine must have security on their southern side. No Russian military in Crimea, one way or another. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By RockNwood: That makes sense except Russia can’t be trusted to stay out. They would try the same ploy again to “save Russian speakers.” I would like to see what credible “promise” the west would come up with that would absolutely guarantee Crimea is not subverted to Russian control. Russia absolutely cannot survive in its present form without friendly control of Crimea. They need to be able to have unrestricted warm water port access even though they commit war crimes every day, which they will all along the Ukraine border and in Crimea. Paper promises are not worth the ink used. The only thing that restricts Russia is force. Russia has Novorossiyisk for a Black Sea port. They don't need Sevastopol. It's purely an emotional play based on empire. As a security guarantee, Ukraine must have security on their southern side. No Russian military in Crimea, one way or another. Thanks for the correction. Yes with the ports further south Crimea is not essential. |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 11:12:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grendelsbane:
I don’t care if it’s a dupe. I don’t even care if it’s just trolling. It’s still funny. They should call every day. Use captured cell phones. |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 11:16:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RockNwood]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thanosnap: The problem, according to Graham, is the economy might collapse but they won't break up. Russia is 80% ethnic Russian now so they'll stay together but be really poor, unable to govern themselves or feed themselves. The North Caucasus is not ethnically Russian and they may lose that though: https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/instability-russias-north-caucasus-region https://worldview.stratfor.com/sites/default/files/styles/2x1_full/public/large_56.jpg?itok=wUrAuTRY https://cdn2.opendemocracy.net/media/images/NCaucasus20mapjpg_4o4au98.width-800.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thanosnap: Originally Posted By planemaker: Causing the collapse of Russia will hopefully have the same impact as the collapse of the former Soviet Union. Some former Soviet-block countries have done well for themselves because of the collapse. We'll see if the same happens once the Russian boot is removed from its neighbors' necks. The problem, according to Graham, is the economy might collapse but they won't break up. Russia is 80% ethnic Russian now so they'll stay together but be really poor, unable to govern themselves or feed themselves. The North Caucasus is not ethnically Russian and they may lose that though: https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/instability-russias-north-caucasus-region https://worldview.stratfor.com/sites/default/files/styles/2x1_full/public/large_56.jpg?itok=wUrAuTRY https://cdn2.opendemocracy.net/media/images/NCaucasus20mapjpg_4o4au98.width-800.jpg Does anyone give a shit if Russia is destitute?! They have murdered millions of people! They are incorrigible. Let the rabid dog die. Only academics or diplomats snug in their ivory towers could worry over such a thing. Most of the world will rejoice when Russia can’t afford gas for a Lada to drive to the border let alone an army. After the diplomatic failure of Bush it is amazing Graham has an ounce of credibility. No more nation building of enemies unless definitively defeated and surrender and they have a history of civilization without empire. Kill them when needed but don’t try to civilize those who despise civilization and rule of law. |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 11:17:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: That makes sense except Russia can’t be trusted to stay out. They would try the same ploy again to “save Russian speakers.” I would like to see what credible “promise” the west would come up with that would absolutely guarantee Crimea is not subverted to Russian control. Russia absolutely cannot survive in its present form without friendly control of Crimea. They need to be able to have unrestricted warm water port access even though they commit war crimes every day, which they will all along the Ukraine border and in Crimea. Paper promises are not worth the ink used. The only thing that restricts Russia is force. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By voyager3: I doubt there are many people in Crimea who love Russia enough to go fighting an insurgency. It's one thing to vote in a referendum when you're promised that all the fighting business will be taken care of by the little green men and they get to join the wealthier and allegedly better run country, and a whole different thing to do the dying for the country that didn't deliver on any promise. Any who felt that way have probably joined up by now. I think the number of people who DGAF which country they were living in and only cared about their economic well-being is greatly underestimated. The war made a huge change pushing the previously indifferent Ukrainians to oppose Russia but I doubt it managed to generate an equal shift in the pro-Russian regions. Russia stole Crimea from Ukraine. But, that doesn't mean Crimeans were dissatisfied with it. Crimeans were favorable toward Putin, secession, and very skeptical of the Kyiv government. Pew Research has done polling in Europe, including a poll in May 2014 in Ukraine, after Crimea was taken but before Donbas was invaded. The poll said Crimeans thought the referendum was legit. But the rest of Ukraine strongly favored remaining unified under Kyiv, contrary to Russia's claims. Pew poll report. It's worth a look. Politically, I don't know if Crimea can effectively go back to Kyiv or not. Crimeans might change their tune if the Kremlin collapses. We'll have to wait and see. It might make sense to have an autonomous Crimean Republic that is loosely aligned with Ukraine and is fully demilitarized by both sides. But Russia can never put military forces there again. That makes sense except Russia can’t be trusted to stay out. They would try the same ploy again to “save Russian speakers.” I would like to see what credible “promise” the west would come up with that would absolutely guarantee Crimea is not subverted to Russian control. Russia absolutely cannot survive in its present form without friendly control of Crimea. They need to be able to have unrestricted warm water port access even though they commit war crimes every day, which they will all along the Ukraine border and in Crimea. Paper promises are not worth the ink used. The only thing that restricts Russia is force. This is true. China is a bigger RIVAL but does not cause the kind of chaos Russia does. |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 11:17:57 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/woodland_abrams_back_in_europe_nature_he-2939958.JPG |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 11:21:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: thanosnap]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Does anyone give a shit if Russia is destitute?! They have murdered millions of people! They are incorrigible. Let the rabid dog die. Only academics or diplomats snug in their ivory towers could worry over such a thing. Most of the world will rejoice when Russia can’t afford gas for a Lada to drive to the border let alone an army. Lol that's the debate going on in the White House right now. We get to sip our brandy or tequila on a Friday night and contemplate such trivial things... how far to strangle Russia? While they face the reality of the problem.... because the US is the most powerful country in the world by a factor of quite a bit  Not many people give a shit about Crimea either. |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 11:31:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/1/2023 11:33:32 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thanosnap: Lol that's the debate going on in the White House right now. We get to sip our brandy or tequila on a Friday night and contemplate such trivial things... how far to strangle Russia? While they face they reality of the problem.... because the US is the most powerful country in the world by a factor of quite a bit Not many people give a shit about Crimea either. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thanosnap: Originally Posted By RockNwood: Does anyone give a shit if Russia is destitute?! They have murdered millions of people! They are incorrigible. Let the rabid dog die. Only academics or diplomats snug in their ivory towers could worry over such a thing. Most of the world will rejoice when Russia can’t afford gas for a Lada to drive to the border let alone an army. Lol that's the debate going on in the White House right now. We get to sip our brandy or tequila on a Friday night and contemplate such trivial things... how far to strangle Russia? While they face they reality of the problem.... because the US is the most powerful country in the world by a factor of quite a bit Not many people give a shit about Crimea either. Well Ukraine the victim in this war cares quite a bit. It is rather arrogant for the US to try to play mapmaker at the expense of innocents. We promised Ukraine we would help ensure their sovereignty over their entire borders. We should fulfill that promise before we start fantasizing. |
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Posted: 9/1/2023 11:49:11 PM EDT
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Summer is over, August is over. Time of lancet statistics for the last month of summer.
For reference. Unknown result - it is impossible to determine if the drone hit the target. Controversial result - it is impossible to assess the damage to the target - damaged or destroyed for example. In total, for the month we were shown 128 strikes against 125 targets. Of which: 10 M-777 - five destroyed, one damaged, one miss, two disputed results, one unknown result; 3 FH-70s - two damaged, one unknown result; 4 D-20s - two destroyed, two damaged; 1 D-30 - damaged; 1 Hyacinth-B - destroyed; 1 Mt-12 Rapier - damaged; 3 self-propelled guns Acacia - three destroyed; 8 self-propelled guns M-109 - four destroyed, three damaged, one miss each; 10 self-propelled guns Gvozdika - six destroyed, two damaged, one disputed result, one miss; 1 self-propelled guns Caesar - destroyed; 1 self-propelled guns Crab - damaged; 1 MLRS Grad - miss; 1 Alakran self-propelled mortar - destroyed; 2 BTR-4 - two destroyed; 2 CV-90s - two damaged; 3 M-113 - one destroyed, two damaged; 5 BMP-1/2 - four damaged, one miss; 1 M1128 Stryker - damaged; 2 MT-LB/s ZU-23-2 - one damaged, one miss; 4 vehicles - four damaged; 4 armored vehicles - one destroyed, three damaged; 1 KUNG ZIL-131 - destroyed; 2 Leopard 2A6 (already under lancets, but new strikes) - one miss, one damaged; 3 T-72s - one destroyed, two damaged; 7 T-64 - two controversial results, two hits in the DZ, three misses; 2 T-80s - one miss, one damaged; 2 unidentified tanks - two misses; 2 IMR-2 - two misses; 2 BREM-1 - one destroyed, one miss; 1 radar station Zoopark-3 - destroyed; 2 launchers of Iris-T air defense systems - 1 damaged, one unknown result; 3 Strela-10 air defense systems - one destroyed, one damaged, one miss; 2 P-18 radars - one disputed result, one damaged; 3 AN / TPQ -36 radars - two destroyed, one unknown result; 19 unknown targets (summer, difficult to understand due to foliage) - four destroyed, three damaged, two disputed results, five misses, five unknown results; 3 Layouts - two destroyed, one miss; 1 drone downed; A certain amount of enemy manpower also suffered. Lancets for abandoned Russian equipment: 1 T-90M - hit in the DZ, no damage was noticed; 1 BTR-82A - destroyed; All in all: ▪️40 kills, including two mock-ups and BTR82A; ▪️43 damage; ▪️24 misses; ▪️9 unknown results; ▪️8 controversial results. ▪️3 hits in dynamic defense, respectively, without much damage; ▪️1 downed. Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g3wa1CTJdmYQUsYt4I5tvwjfr5Ne3dxlgzLObby1lSs/edit?usp=drivesdk https://t.me/rsotmdivision/10428 |
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Posted: 9/2/2023 12:03:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: thanosnap]
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: We promised Ukraine we would help ensure their sovereignty over their entire borders. We did. And I think we've fulfilled every part of the Budapest Memorandum which Clinton regrets signing. It was a vague commitment. And since Kyiv has fought so bravely we've done even more than that commitment. And it's been to our benefit sending hand-me-down old weapons to destroy Russia's warfighting capabilities. |
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Posted: 9/2/2023 12:34:52 AM EDT
[#32]
How many RS-28 Sarmat does Russia actually have? For some reason I was under the impression the number was only one as of this year, I know 50 were promised does anyone know how many have been built and has there been a full test flight of the system yet?
Unrelated I think we should rename Crimea to Tartarus. |
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Posted: 9/2/2023 12:46:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thanosnap: We did. And I think we've fulfilled every part of the Budapest Memorandum which Clinton regrets signing. It was a vague commitment. And since Kyiv has fought so bravely we've done even more than that commitment. And it's been to our benefit sending hand-me-down old weapons to destroy Russia's warfighting capabilities. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thanosnap: Originally Posted By RockNwood: We promised Ukraine we would help ensure their sovereignty over their entire borders. We did. And I think we've fulfilled every part of the Budapest Memorandum which Clinton regrets signing. It was a vague commitment. And since Kyiv has fought so bravely we've done even more than that commitment. And it's been to our benefit sending hand-me-down old weapons to destroy Russia's warfighting capabilities. For consideration. Especially for those who have not read, but know. Let's read together! It is not the first time that I have noticed that some people like to grab hold of some valid argument, in their opinion, and, without delving into the details at all, wave it to the right and to the left. "They must!!!", "They must!", "West, where are our guarantees?!!" - This is now rushing from all corners. I think that many have already guessed what the Budapest memorandum is about. If you are one of those who haven't read it, but know exactly what it is about, this short post is for you. If you don't know, all the more. So, briefly and about the main thing: about those two points of the memorandum, which are interpreted by many people in the wrong way. Number one, aka point four. He says that the countries that signed the memorandum are obliged to demand immediate action from the UN Security Council in case of aggression towards Ukraine. Once again - demand action from the UN Security Council. Did everyone read it? It's great. In this point, there is no obligation to take direct action to provide assistance. Bonus - we all remember WHO is part of the UN Security Council? That's it. Number two, aka point six. The countries that signed the memorandum undertake to hold consultations in the event of aggression. The key word here is consultation. Once again - consultations. Let's summarize. There is no promise of direct protection and the supply of weapons in the event of aggression in the memorandum. Point. Has the country of shit and vodka (c) violated the memorandum? - OF COURSE IT IS. (lol) Have the US and UK violated it? - No, it was not violated. They have not violated, they are not obliged, they should not. All. The rest is your emotions and fantasies. Don't take wishful thinking for granted. If you want to argue and blame, look for other arguments. And think about it, how did it happen that Ukraine exchanged something very concrete and important for something so impractical? And also, some people should learn the word "thanks" in relation to those countries that should not help, but do it. (c) Bessinka American infantryman https://t.me/usinfantryman1/14993 |
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Posted: 9/2/2023 12:46:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thanosnap: We did. And I think we've fulfilled every part of the Budapest Memorandum which Clinton regrets signing. It was a vague commitment. And since Kyiv has fought so bravely we've done even more than that commitment. And it's been to our benefit sending hand-me-down old weapons to destroy Russia's warfighting capabilities. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thanosnap: Originally Posted By RockNwood: We promised Ukraine we would help ensure their sovereignty over their entire borders. We did. And I think we've fulfilled every part of the Budapest Memorandum which Clinton regrets signing. It was a vague commitment. And since Kyiv has fought so bravely we've done even more than that commitment. And it's been to our benefit sending hand-me-down old weapons to destroy Russia's warfighting capabilities. Ukraine doesn’t have its territories back. How can a you possibly say we fulfilled our commitment? We were supposed to PREVENT an intrusion. Instead hundreds of thousands have died and millions displaced and cities razed to the ground? Has Russia been kicked out of Ukraine? No. Then we failed and are only helping Ukraine enough to keep their defense and very slow advance. You have a very strange definition of fulfilled obligation. Remind me not to enter into a treaty ! 😂 You are coming across as a Russian sympathizer. Worried about Russia’s prosperity. Not worried at all about the victims. Trying to frame our half assed assistance as mission complete. Holding up one of the most tragically failed foreign policy advisors as some kind of expert. Really? |
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Posted: 9/2/2023 12:55:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RockNwood]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: For consideration. Especially for those who have not read, but know. Let's read together! It is not the first time that I have noticed that some people like to grab hold of some valid argument, in their opinion, and, without delving into the details at all, wave it to the right and to the left. "They must!!!", "They must!", "West, where are our guarantees?!!" - This is now rushing from all corners. I think that many have already guessed what the Budapest memorandum is about. If you are one of those who haven't read it, but know exactly what it is about, this short post is for you. If you don't know, all the more. So, briefly and about the main thing: about those two points of the memorandum, which are interpreted by many people in the wrong way. Number one, aka point four. He says that the countries that signed the memorandum are obliged to demand immediate action from the UN Security Council in case of aggression towards Ukraine. Once again - demand action from the UN Security Council. Did everyone read it? It's great. In this point, there is no obligation to take direct action to provide assistance. Bonus - we all remember WHO is part of the UN Security Council? That's it. Number two, aka point six. The countries that signed the memorandum undertake to hold consultations in the event of aggression. The key word here is consultation. Once again - consultations. Let's summarize. There is no promise of direct protection and the supply of weapons in the event of aggression in the memorandum. Point. Has the country of shit and vodka (c) violated the memorandum? - OF COURSE IT IS. (lol) Have the US and UK violated it? - No, it was not violated. They have not violated, they are not obliged, they should not. All. The rest is your emotions and fantasies. Don't take wishful thinking for granted. If you want to argue and blame, look for other arguments. And think about it, how did it happen that Ukraine exchanged something very concrete and important for something so impractical? And also, some people should learn the word "thanks" in relation to those countries that should not help, but do it. (c) Bessinka American infantryman https://t.me/usinfantryman1/14993 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By thanosnap: Originally Posted By RockNwood: We promised Ukraine we would help ensure their sovereignty over their entire borders. We did. And I think we've fulfilled every part of the Budapest Memorandum which Clinton regrets signing. It was a vague commitment. And since Kyiv has fought so bravely we've done even more than that commitment. And it's been to our benefit sending hand-me-down old weapons to destroy Russia's warfighting capabilities. For consideration. Especially for those who have not read, but know. Let's read together! It is not the first time that I have noticed that some people like to grab hold of some valid argument, in their opinion, and, without delving into the details at all, wave it to the right and to the left. "They must!!!", "They must!", "West, where are our guarantees?!!" - This is now rushing from all corners. I think that many have already guessed what the Budapest memorandum is about. If you are one of those who haven't read it, but know exactly what it is about, this short post is for you. If you don't know, all the more. So, briefly and about the main thing: about those two points of the memorandum, which are interpreted by many people in the wrong way. Number one, aka point four. He says that the countries that signed the memorandum are obliged to demand immediate action from the UN Security Council in case of aggression towards Ukraine. Once again - demand action from the UN Security Council. Did everyone read it? It's great. In this point, there is no obligation to take direct action to provide assistance. Bonus - we all remember WHO is part of the UN Security Council? That's it. Number two, aka point six. The countries that signed the memorandum undertake to hold consultations in the event of aggression. The key word here is consultation. Once again - consultations. Let's summarize. There is no promise of direct protection and the supply of weapons in the event of aggression in the memorandum. Point. Has the country of shit and vodka (c) violated the memorandum? - OF COURSE IT IS. (lol) Have the US and UK violated it? - No, it was not violated. They have not violated, they are not obliged, they should not. All. The rest is your emotions and fantasies. Don't take wishful thinking for granted. If you want to argue and blame, look for other arguments. And think about it, how did it happen that Ukraine exchanged something very concrete and important for something so impractical? And also, some people should learn the word "thanks" in relation to those countries that should not help, but do it. (c) Bessinka American infantryman https://t.me/usinfantryman1/14993 Everyone alive at that time was aware that the US pressured Ukraine to disarm with the implication we were there to protect them instead. To ignore that is immoral. Not just nukes but strategic bombers and other weapons. Clinton would not apologize if we had truly fulfilled our obligations. Yes, these people waving papers around claiming we fulfilled our obligations are immoral cowards. I do agree that Ukraine and any other country is foolish to believe any of our diplomats. We are as fickle as Russia is untrustworthy. Ukraine must have the means to defend itself and never again rely on promises from the US. Especially while we hand wring over how to make Russia prosperous again! What evil in the hearts. Ha! Ha! You forgot to read the clauses after we sweet talked you into trusting us! Ha! Ha! |
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Posted: 9/2/2023 1:02:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/2/2023 1:04:10 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: It might make sense to have an autonomous Crimean Republic that is loosely aligned with Ukraine and is fully demilitarized by both sides. But Russia can never put military forces there again. The pre 2014 status quo was almost exactly that with the exception of not being demilitarized. Demilitarized Crimea has all the utility of a suitcase sans handle to Russia. |
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Posted: 9/2/2023 1:04:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Posted: 9/2/2023 1:07:53 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Some good trench action from the south https://twitter.com/pstyle0ne1/status/1697835928721530912 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_3451-2940022.jpg They're just north of the big push, good for them. |
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Posted: 9/2/2023 1:16:54 AM EDT
[#40]
Preparations for Winter
Long thread. Mostly same same militarily. But does emphasize that Russia will be pressing hard on the disinfo and influencing media narratives to demoralize and disuade support for Ukraine with a flurry of “peace” promptings. I think the increase of peace traffic we’ve seen in the last week is just a weak start to what it will be for the next many months. It really is Russia’s only hope to get Western support withdrawn and everyone run to the peace for a piece of paper to wave around “We have peace in our time” (as defined by the paper). |
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Posted: 9/2/2023 1:20:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: They're just north of the big push, good for them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By RockNwood: Some good trench action from the south https://twitter.com/pstyle0ne1/status/1697835928721530912 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_3451-2940022.jpg They're just north of the big push, good for them. It’s great to see so many videos of UA assaulting trenches and clearing them and mostly holding them rather than just blasting each other from static trenches. |
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Posted: 9/2/2023 1:27:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RockNwood]
[#42]
UA is creating significant disruption to Russian air and bridge traffic even when the drones are shot up. The nearly daily threat forces them to stop critical traffic for hours every day. I hope they can increase drone production by many times by winter.
https://twitter.com/pstyle0ne1/status/1697832608623743424 
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Posted: 9/2/2023 1:29:30 AM EDT
[#43]
That's new.
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Posted: 9/2/2023 1:32:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: That's new. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F49cT_4WoAAPPLB?format=jpg&name=large
That is the scientist in charge of the recent “moon landing.” It was the next day or two when he was killed. Poor Looney and his Dadda. |
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Posted: 9/2/2023 1:32:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: That's new. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F49cT_4WoAAPPLB?format=jpg&name=large
"Accidentally"  |
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Posted: 9/2/2023 1:33:44 AM EDT
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Quote History That was uncomfortable on the big screen  |
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Posted: 9/2/2023 1:40:44 AM EDT
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It’s really official, from Russian Telegram
#Summary for the morning of September 2, 2023 ▪️On the Zaporizhzhya Front, it is reported that the Russian Armed Forces have withdrawn to positions south of the settlement. Rabotino. By evening, the enemy began delivering troops to the Bradley infantry fighting vehicle, trying to build on the success. The attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Verbove do not stop. Heavy fighting is going on, problems with counter-battery combat are again mentioned. ▪️In the Kherson direction, the Armed Forces of Ukraine intensified landing operations on our bank of the Dnieper. Since the middle of the week, the enemy has been holding a bridgehead in the direction of the Cossack Camps - Podstepnoye. Yesterday I tried to replenish the number of personnel near the Antonovsky bridge, an artillery strike was inflicted. In the battle for the islands, two enemy boats were destroyed, another 4 enemy landings were delivered to one of the islands. ▪️South of Artemovsk (Bakhmut), the Armed Forces of Ukraine have stepped up offensive operations on the Kleshcheevka (photo)-Andreevka-Kurdyumovka line, throwing infantry and equipment into battle. Our aviation and heavy flamethrower systems are working, the enemy failed to take our strongholds, losing several armored vehicles. The enemy is pulling up reserves. ▪️Enemy attacks were repulsed in the direction of Kreminnaya in the Serebryansky forestry and on the Torsky ledge, the enemy suffered losses in manpower and equipment. ▪️ In the morning and at night, enemy UAVs (three drones in total) were shot down over the Belgorod region. Yesterday morning in the Kursk region, two UAVs attacked the city of Kurchatov, where the nuclear power plant is located. Shot from. Troitskoye, Korenevsky district. The DPR was subjected to massive shelling. 23 civilians were wounded, three were killed. Including a 6 year old girl. Summary compiled by: Two majors https://t.me/dva_majors/24774 ❗️🇷🇺🇺🇦🎞 Chronicle of a special military operation: the events of September 1, 2023. ▪️Ukrainian formations continue to strike with drones on the rear settlements of Russia. In the Kursk region, a drone attacked Kurchatov, where the nuclear power plant of the same name is located. The administrative building and non-residential building were damaged. ▪️Another device was intercepted on approach to Moscow near the city of Lyubertsy. Thanks to the successful work of Russian air defense systems, casualties and destruction were avoided. ▪️At the same time, the enemy again used a drone to attack the military-civilian airport in Pskov. The drone was detected by mobile air defense teams and shot down over the Kresty microdistrict. ▪️On the southern flank of the defense of Bakhmut, Russian troops are attempting an offensive in the Kleshcheevka area. The Ukrainian command hastily transfers reserves to the front line, trying to prevent the loss of key heights near the village. ▪️On the Day of Knowledge, Ukrainian formations launched a massive strike from NATO weapons on the Donetsk agglomeration. Residential buildings and infrastructure facilities were damaged: three people were killed, including a six-year-old girl, and 23 others were injured. ▪️In the Zaporozhye direction, the Ukrainian authorities evacuated residents from front-line settlements. The presence of Gulyai-Pole on this list underlines the possible readiness of the enemy to resume fighting in this sector. ▪️Under Orekhov, the Ukrainian formations, at the cost of significant losses, managed to establish full control over Rabotino. At the same time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not stop attacks in the direction of Verbove, but there they meet stubborn resistance from Russian troops. https://t.me/rybar/51432 |
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Posted: 9/2/2023 1:44:36 AM EDT
[#48]
Ammo porn!
Depleted uranium round cutaway for the Abrams. 😛 
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Posted: 9/2/2023 2:03:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mbinky: I just felt like posting a picture of an Abrams firing pin. https://i.postimg.cc/150cJwQD/IMG-6771.jpg Pretty damn cool! |
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Posted: 9/2/2023 2:10:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By absael: I'm wondering if they might deploy them toward the rear to free up other tanks to go to the front. I've said this (jokingly) before but they should paint those few Abrams pink and park them around the US Embassy as "protection". |
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