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11/30/2025 7:52:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
This ought to be great but damn it's so hard to sit and watch a 3 hour show.

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Break it up. I do it all the time. The format is legit, I want to get these in-depth discussions out there.

This one’ll take me a week or so… but it’s worth it.
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11/30/2025 7:55:11 PM EDT
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The Reddit "whistleblower" doesn't ring true with me.  He claims "they only told me a little bit because I kept asking questions" but proceeds to give a ton of information about a very complex secret.

Some Redditers also called him out for using multiple tropes from sci-fi movies and video games.  It's all a bit too fantastic.
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
11/30/2025 9:13:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
The Reddit "whistleblower" doesn't ring true with me.  He claims "they only told me a little bit because I kept asking questions" but proceeds to give a ton of information about a very complex secret.

Some Redditers also called him out for using multiple tropes from sci-fi movies and video games.  It's all a bit too fantastic.
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Most likely.

But I want to tell you (and all the others) something - many of these anonymous whistleblowers can easily  just be writers that are testing their skills - and a story.

Were it me, I'd be all over the place with trying to place my scripts everywhere (testing the waters).

I don't understand why we're not getting UFO TV series and movies like if there wasn't a tomorrow - I've been saying it for the past two years.

The way I see it, these are the stories to tell, to create contents about.

I know I'd buy (films, TV series etc.)
11/30/2025 9:18:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Solo_:

I don't understand why we're not getting UFO TV series and movies like if there wasn't a tomorrow - I've been saying it for the past two years.
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
The Reddit "whistleblower" doesn't ring true with me.  He claims "they only told me a little bit because I kept asking questions" but proceeds to give a ton of information about a very complex secret.

Some Redditers also called him out for using multiple tropes from sci-fi movies and video games.  It's all a bit too fantastic.

I don't understand why we're not getting UFO TV series and movies like if there wasn't a tomorrow - I've been saying it for the past two years.
Well, Invasion is big on Apple TV.

Disney/Pixar just did soft disclosure to kids with a whole movie about a kid trying to get abducted by aliens and it includes Space Force with a mention of AARO.  No shit.

Spielberg is working on a movie that's out next year titled "Disclosure".

The director of Top Gun: Maverick is apparently working on a movie with David Grusch directly involved.

Interestingly enough, it seems like Hollywood has taken a pause on the fictional alien stuff and is focusing on what's actually happening.  It's almost like they've been given a directive.
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
11/30/2025 9:24:21 PM EDT
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Theres a big competition with some people for how legit they can sound. Getting their stuff read, getting attention, or simply getting satisfaction from their online mental masturbation.

Never could give legitimacy to any of those "Im a secret whistle blower" tropes on social media (4chan, reddit, etc...). Its fan fiction at best.
12/1/2025 8:18:52 AM EDT
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The Joe Rogan podcast may have been actually a repeat of his podcast shared this time be Jesse on his channel, not sure but I think I saw the Joe Rogan thing posted once in general.  I don’t typically watch these long podcasts.  It was a trip however.  I watched a lot of it last night while in bed but fell asleep and missed maybe 30 minutes before waking back up while they were getting into the consciousness area and telepathically and possibly the end of humanity as we currently know it coming to an end.  It was most definitely worth spending some time listening to.  I may go back today and listen to the last hour to see what I may have missed.
12/1/2025 10:12:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
The Joe Rogan podcast may have been actually a repeat of his podcast shared this time be Jesse on his channel, not sure but I think I saw the Joe Rogan thing posted once in general.  I don't typically watch these long podcasts.  It was a trip however.  I watched a lot of it last night while in bed but fell asleep and missed maybe 30 minutes before waking back up while they were getting into the consciousness area and telepathically and possibly the end of humanity as we currently know it coming to an end.  It was most definitely worth spending some time listening to.  I may go back today and listen to the last hour to see what I may have missed.
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If you're a regular watcher of Rogan's podcast, you're just going to hear him repeat exactly what he's said before but it's a pretty good watch.
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
12/1/2025 11:38:01 AM EDT
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The 7 Levels of Consciousness | Which One Are You On?
12/1/2025 2:25:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Interestingly enough, it seems like Hollywood has taken a pause on the fictional alien stuff and is focusing on what's actually happening.  It's almost like they've been given a directive.
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... imagine if we could get the sort of stories we got ourselves from Close Encounters and ET back then. THAT type of NHI stories... just enough of horror style alien shit (loved it, but enough of it really).

Stories of values, future for humanity and other civilizations. That kind of thing - but just not in Star Trek style.

Realism.


12/1/2025 2:34:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Solo_:
... imagine if we could get the sort of stories we got ourselves from Close Encounters and ET back then. THAT type of NHI stories... just enough of horror style alien shit (loved it, but enough of it really).

Stories of values, future for humanity and other civilizations. That kind of thing - but just not in Star Trek style.

Realism.


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Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Interestingly enough, it seems like Hollywood has taken a pause on the fictional alien stuff and is focusing on what's actually happening.  It's almost like they've been given a directive.
... imagine if we could get the sort of stories we got ourselves from Close Encounters and ET back then. THAT type of NHI stories... just enough of horror style alien shit (loved it, but enough of it really).

Stories of values, future for humanity and other civilizations. That kind of thing - but just not in Star Trek style.

Realism.


Spielberg's new movie will be exactly what you're looking for, I guarantee it.

It'll be fiction that might as well be a documentary.  He knows things.
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
12/1/2025 2:43:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Spielberg's new movie will be exactly what you're looking for, I guarantee it.

It'll be fiction that might as well be a documentary.  He knows things.
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Interestingly enough, it seems like Hollywood has taken a pause on the fictional alien stuff and is focusing on what's actually happening.  It's almost like they've been given a directive.
... imagine if we could get the sort of stories we got ourselves from Close Encounters and ET back then. THAT type of NHI stories... just enough of horror style alien shit (loved it, but enough of it really).

Stories of values, future for humanity and other civilizations. That kind of thing - but just not in Star Trek style.

Realism.


Spielberg's new movie will be exactly what you're looking for, I guarantee it.

It'll be fiction that might as well be a documentary.  He knows things.

I'm not sure this one is even going to be fictional.  It is named Disclosure!
12/1/2025 2:51:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver:

I'm not sure this one is even going to be fictional.  It is named Disclosure!
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Originally Posted By Solo_:
Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Interestingly enough, it seems like Hollywood has taken a pause on the fictional alien stuff and is focusing on what's actually happening.  It's almost like they've been given a directive.
... imagine if we could get the sort of stories we got ourselves from Close Encounters and ET back then. THAT type of NHI stories... just enough of horror style alien shit (loved it, but enough of it really).

Stories of values, future for humanity and other civilizations. That kind of thing - but just not in Star Trek style.

Realism.


Spielberg's new movie will be exactly what you're looking for, I guarantee it.

It'll be fiction that might as well be a documentary.  He knows things.

I'm not sure this one is even going to be fictional.  It is named Disclosure!
It has actors so it won't simply be a documentary, at least not in the way it's presented.

People are much more likely to go watch "Spielberg's new alien movie" over a documentary anyway.
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
12/1/2025 2:58:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Solo_:
... imagine if we could get the sort of stories we got ourselves from Close Encounters and ET back then. THAT type of NHI stories... just enough of horror style alien shit (loved it, but enough of it really).

Stories of values, future for humanity and other civilizations. That kind of thing - but just not in Star Trek style.

Realism.


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Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Interestingly enough, it seems like Hollywood has taken a pause on the fictional alien stuff and is focusing on what's actually happening.  It's almost like they've been given a directive.
... imagine if we could get the sort of stories we got ourselves from Close Encounters and ET back then. THAT type of NHI stories... just enough of horror style alien shit (loved it, but enough of it really).

Stories of values, future for humanity and other civilizations. That kind of thing - but just not in Star Trek style.

Realism.


Oh, I forgot one earlier: "Pluribus" on Apple TV.

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Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
12/1/2025 5:41:27 PM EDT
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Oh, I forgot one earlier: "Pluribus" on Apple TV.

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Damn - I might watch that one!

PS I went back to 2002 (?) and watching Spielberg's "Taken" again. Just love it.
12/1/2025 7:08:10 PM EDT
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Whoa!  Our world is changing.

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12/1/2025 7:40:51 PM EDT
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What Really Happens When You Don’t Dream — The Truth Is Far Stranger Than Dreams
12/1/2025 10:07:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
The Reddit "whistleblower" doesn't ring true with me.  He claims "they only told me a little bit because I kept asking questions" but proceeds to give a ton of information about a very complex secret.

Some Redditers also called him out for using multiple tropes from sci-fi movies and video games.  It's all a bit too fantastic.
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The Reddit "whistleblower" doesn't ring true with me.  He claims "they only told me a little bit because I kept asking questions" but proceeds to give a ton of information about a very complex secret.

Some Redditers also called him out for using multiple tropes from sci-fi movies and video games.  It's all a bit too fantastic.



The full text of the post, if this is one one you mean;


You wanted Disclosure.... I am a whistleblower recently "retired" from the inside. And you're only getting part of the truth.

Hi. So I heard y'all want disclosure? Alright, hope you have time for this because there's a LOT. Grab a coffee or maybe get comfy with a pillow somewhere.

I've been watching the news and hearing a lot of things I know to be true shockingly being talked about openly by some higher ups in a documentary so I figured what the hell?

You can call me Rhea. Not my real name obviously, but it will do.

A little about me... I spent about eight years in the military to pay for college and then another decade plus in a part of the US intelligence component that does not officially exist. On paper I worked for a boring sounding office in a department most people have never heard of. In reality it was a compartment inside a compartment where the odd stuff of a certain nature got routed.

My actual specialty is electro-optics. Lasers, sensors, EO imaging systems, the math and hardware behind how we detect things at a distance and, in some cases, put energy on them. That is what I trained in, what I did most of my serious work on once I was off the deployment treadmill. So when I say I know something about directed energy weapons and weird sensor returns, that's not "I heard this from a friend of a friend". That was my day job. Most of my career was boring in the way dangerous jobs are boring. Long days in windowless rooms. Iraq and Afghanistan in the early years, doing the usual mix of SIGINT and HUMINT support. Phone records, pattern-of-life workups, building target packets on people who’d never know my name but might notice a drone overhead later. After I got out of uniform I slid over to contractor work, then got pulled into the permanent government side.

For a long time my world was very normal: counterterrorism, sanctions evasion, shady cargo going through weird ports, stuff like that. After that, foreign missile tests and what you have probably seen described publicly as space domain awareness. Basically, watching dots move around the sky and trying to decide whose dots they were and what they were doing.

The weird part started when I was detailed to a small interagency working group looking at what was called "anomalous aerospace and undersea systems". Translation: things detected and showing up on sensors that did not match any known platform, did not behave like clutter, and did not go away when you changed radar modes or swapped optical systems. I was there because I understood both sides of the equation: the physics of the sensors and the intelligence context. You get taught very quickly to treat anything unexplained as a glitch, a calibration issue, operator error, software artifacts, anything that keeps your world tidy. You get used to hearing “weird glitch” as a catch-all. Except after a while you notice some of those “glitches” kept showing up, across different systems, different countries, decades apart. Same behaviors. Same basic locations. Same signature that never quite fits. At some point you either admit there is a real pattern or you drive yourself crazy trying not to see it. If you are useful and you start asking the wrong questions for long enough, someone eventually pulls you aside, takes you to a SCIF, takes your phone, has you sign your life away again, and shows you the next layer of the onion.

This onion goes so deep I doubt that even after years of briefings I've been exposed to anything below a few layers. Even still most of this is purposely kept off NIPR and JWICS and is done in person.

That is where I learned about most of what you're interested in here and what seems to be bubbling to the surface in the news lately. That when I learned about what we call The Council. Yes aliens, and I suspect you're not likely to see a lot of what I know mentioned even by some who know it who have begun speaking out for reasons I'll get into later.

I've never met them face to face. Everything I know about them is from briefings, documents, and one secure video session that I honestly wish I had skipped. But it lines up with too many independent data points to just shrug off as somebody’s pet theory.

The basic story is this. Earth was noticed roughly 2 billion years ago, long before anything walked around on land. Not because we’re special, but because we tripped a sensor. Or rather life tripped their sensors. You see, The Council is not a single species. It is a collective of several advanced interstellar maybe even interdimensional civilizations that run long term surveys of stars and planets the way we run spy satellites. Huge distributed arrays of instruments, working together, watching thousands of star systems at once, for millions of years at a time. Their gear probably makes the James Webb telescope look like a kid's backyard telescope.

About 2 billion years ago those instruments picked up biosignatures here, chemical fingerprints in the atmosphere that meant something was alive here. Atmospheric composition like free oxygen and methane, spectral fingerprints, chemical disequilibria that scream “there’s metabolism happening down there!" you know, the basics. At that point Earth went into a database as “interesting, revisit later”.

Standard procedure for them when a world looks promising is pretty boring from their point of view. They send automated probes. Not big crewed ships like you see in sci-fi movies, just small, tough, very smart machines. Those probes come in, mostly target the oceans, and set up self replicating facilities on the seafloor. Those facilities use local materials to build more facilities, more probes, craft that can operate underwater, in the air, in near space, and eventually avatars that can interact with whatever life evolves. These biological or rather, biomechanical avatars are what some people who claim to have been abducted have likely experienced.  Though they do have what we would call ASI, these beings are not gods, they are technology and they aren't perfect, they make mistakes, glitch out, etc.

The reason they base all of that underwater for a simple reason. The bottom of an ocean does not care about ice ages, political empires, climate swings or wars. Temperatures and pressures change slowly over what long periods of time. Its a fairly stable environment and for much of human history has been mostly inacessible. Speaking of time, we Earth humans tend to think in terms of nothing longer than the current human lifespan. And when pondering non-human intelligence we like to think in terms of deep space, distance and light years but we seldom consider the lifespan and concept of time for a post-biological species could be quite different than outs. Only our most astute thinkers in the realms of geology, palentology and cosmology think in terms of millions or billions of years. Geologic epochs, cosmological history. That is childsplay for The Council which has a different concept of time, more concerned with deep time, millions of years at a stretch. As such their infrastructure is designed for that.

So yes, a lot of the TMOs (transmedium objects) and impossible accelerations you have heard about are just their hardware doing its job. Maintenance, observation, sampling. Nothing heroic. The warp bubble/Alcubierre effect was probably mastered by them before our solar system even existed. It's old tech for them. Kinda like the wheel is for us. Also, no, we are not the center of anyone’s universe. There are about a billion planets in our galaxy that are more or less like Earth. Some just have microbes. Some have more complex life. A smaller subset of those have or once had civilizations. We are just one more entry, a fairly recent one in cosmological terms, in a very large survey.

Once early humans started doing interesting things, we moved from “planet with life” to “planet with potential”. They have watched this same story unfold in slightly different ways around a thousand times from what I understand. Chemistry leads to biology, biology creates technology. Tool use, language, agriculture, cities, industry, energy, space travel. Somewhere in there you always hit the same fork. Either the species figures out how not to blow itself to pieces with the energy densities it increasingly has access to such as nuclear fission, nuclear fusion, anti-matter and more exotic matter/energy, or it wipes itself out.

Our situation worried them. We are a little paradox: extremely good at cooperation and also extremely good at organized violence. Our aggression stood out. Cooperation plus violence isn’t unique, but we’re very, very good at both. And once you get to things like nuclear power, that combo tends to end very badly. They'd seen plenty of variations of that play out over at least a few billion years.

About 10,000 years ago our trajectory towards that became clear and there was a major argument inside the Council about what, if anything, to do with us. One side said the odds favored self destruction once we discovered and weaponized atomic level technologies. The other side argued we were worth saving or at least worth understanding better. The compromise was an experiment. One which has ramifications as to why all of this has been hidden for so long.

Roughly 65,000 humans were removed from Earth and relocated to what is basically a preserve on a planet around the star you know as 82 Eridani. Internally we called those people Erids. That star is in our catalogs if you feel like looking it up, but the details of the target planet are not public for obvious reasons.

The Erids were started in a kind of controlled paradise. Their world has large dispenser systems that can produce whatever basic material needs they have. Food, clothing, tools, building materials, entire strucures for habitation. Think Star Trek replicators scaled up and wired into the environment. In that setup nobody starves, nobody is homeless in the way we understand it, nobody spends their life chasing money just to meet needs. This was just the Erids natural reality.

The point from The Council's view was to remove material scarcity from the equation and see what humans do and achieve when they are not spending most of their energy bashing each other over the head over resources. Meanwhile, the rest of us stayed here on the control planet, dealing with scarcity, ownership, money, hoarding, and the rise of socio-political systems based on scarcity: all of the things that define Earth civilization.

The result, according to what we were briefed, is that the Erids are now around 5,000 years ahead of us technologically, averaged out. Same species, same basic biology, same starting point, completely different trajectory because of conditions. Nature vs nurture on a cosmic scale. For most of their history they Erids thought they were native to that world. They only found out the truth roughly a century ago in our time. They learned that they were uplifted, that their ancestors were taken from Earth, that they have cousins here.

Once they knew that, some of them started coming back to visit the original branch. This is where their history intersects the some of the UFO stories you know. The “aliens” that look almost exactly human are just that. Human. They are not hybrids, not clones, not secretly angels or demons. They are Erids, born around another star, showing up here after being given a 10,000 year head start. They have in some cases met with leaders of certain countries and at least two U.N. Secretary Generals (both deceased).

Now we get to why this has been buried for 80 some years.

You have to think like a senior US official in the 1940s and 1950s. World War II has just ended, the Cold War is starting, everything is viewed through capitalism versus communism. Then someone puts a briefing in front of you that says, in essence, there is a group of humans living on another world who have no money, no private ownership in the way we structure it, automatic systems that meet their basic needs, and in that environment they advanced thousands of years faster than we have. The men who built what we now call the legacy program in the US that sounded less like “interesting anthropological data” and more like “a walking, talking advertisement for space communism.” It looked like proof that communism works better than the system they were trying to defend. That and the ramifications of what could happen if THAT ever got out terrified them more than the existence of aliens did, though to be fair they plenty had their worldview rocked by the latter too.

So the core of the cover up has never just been “aliens” or even their technologies. It has been the systemic implications. The idea that scarcity and ownership are not hard coded into reality, that they are one possible way to run a society, and maybe not the optimal one. That was seen as an existential political threat in the 1940s and 1950s and some of the people who grew up in that mindset are still steering parts of the program today.

Now add in the famous crash-retrieval incidents. Roswell '47, Kecksburg '65, a handful of other retrievals around the U.S. and around the world. What we were told is that most of those were not accidents. They were tests and gifts. The Council, with Erid input, allowed certain craft and systems to fall into human hands in a controlled way. Enough intact technology that a very motivated and capable society could learn from it, not enough that it would instantly rewrite everything.

In fact the Kecksburg landing, it wasn't called a crash internally, was a direct result of a meeting and gift agreement made at Holloman AFB the year prior. The idea was to see who did what with it. Who could figure it out, who kept it secret, who tried to share, who tried to weaponize it, who panicked. Based on those results, the plan was to pick one primary human partner to act as the main interface for full Council contact and to begin a managed process of reunifying Earth humans with the Erids and introducing us to the wider community.

You can argue whether that is a good way to do it. I am just telling you that is the framework I saw laid out.

In the 1980s-90s during a brief period when the Cold War ended there was a push to finally disclose much of this. This was initially proposed at meeting between then U.S. President Ronald Reagan and then Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev at a summit in Reykjavik, Iceland in 1986. Also discussed was getting rid of nuclear weapons as had been urged by The Council. In the end it was decided to wait. There were two more U.S. pushes for disclosure between then and the 2017 New York Times article. One during the Clinton administration and another during the transition between the Obama and first Trump presidency.

Now for the part that put a clock on all of this stuff you've been hearing about 2027 etc....

About three years ago, a species that is hostile to the Council found out about the Earth project. They are not part of the collective. They resent the way the Council handles in younger civilizations as they themselves felt victimized by the Council. They also resent the credit the Council gets for “successful” cases. I have heard them described as the jealous neighbors who would rather break your toys than watch you win.

Yes, we sometimes joke about this stuff because again, it's the only way to stay sane with this everyday knowledge and integrate it into your civilian life of thanksgiving dinner, xmas shopping, taking the kids to soccer practice etc.  Just as an aside, ever consider how two of the biggest holidays of they year involve gluttony (Thanksgiving) and overconsumption (Black Friday)? When you have the knowledge many have within the program stuff that is taken for granted seems really weird and a symptom of the now, forced scarcity of our current system.

Anyway back to the aliens... The hostile group I mentioned decided to spoil the experiment.

This species is ahead of us technologically but far behind the Council. Though they also inhabit a relatively nearby star cosmologically speaking, their travel is slower, less elegant and has to take place in stages, think of it as space "island hopping" which is why the lead time is so long. You probably want to know what they look like. Physically, based on the descriptions we saw, they are about five feet tall, segmented bodies, multiple limbs, basically ant like in overall form. Nothing subtle or humanoid about them.

They launched an expedition toward Earth with the stated goal of making a mess. Cause chaos here, damage the experiment, and embarrass the Council by showing they cannot protect their own projects due to internal disagreements. Basically exploiting internal fissures, turning small cracks of understanding in The Council into canyons, thus destroying it. That's their hope at least. The transit time means for us they are expected to arrive in roughly two years from now, the 2027 holiday present NO ONE asked for.

That news triggered a major debate within the Council. One group said, the rules say non interference, we watch and record what happens, even if it is ugly, as we had done in the past. The other group said, we effectively created this situation by tagging and monitoring this world, we have a moral obligation not to just watch a civilization we have been studying get smashed by somebody else’s grudge. If the Council showed up in force it would not be much of a fight. Their technology relative to the ant species is like a modern carrier group versus skilled archers on sailboats. The whole thing would be over quickly and it would also completely blow the point of letting a young species find its own way. It would also be a tremendous blow to the human ego which The Council is well aware of.

So they arrived at a compromise. No direct Council fleets defending Earth. No obvious intervention. Instead, they would quietly arm us.

What they chose to give us are things they roughly call scalar phase weapons. Our vocabulary is not great here. They are not just high power lasers. They interact with fields we do not fully understand or really have names for yet, shift phases, dump huge amounts of energy from the vacuum into very specific volumes of spacetime without a conventional bright beam or explosion. Compared to our current directed energy weapons, they are an enormous leap. As someone who spent years working with lasers and optics systems, I can tell you they sit so far off our current tech tree that if you saw the damage assessments from a pulse without context you would think they were misprints. But compared to Council weapons, they are nerf guns, training wheels per-se.

Anyway, that decision set off another big argument, both among them and among us. The obvious concern was simple. Once the external threat is gone, what stops us from turning these things on each other the same way we took nuclear power and turned it into thousands of warheads aimed at our own cities?

On the US side there were people saying exactly that. And some members of The Council argued that if we on Earth roll out scalar systems across arsenals, the first real test after the bugs are gone will likely be some crisis where two human governments start lighting each other up with technology they we do not fully understand.

The counter argument, which won, was that species level survival has to come first. If humanity gets wiped out by someone else’s petty feud, then the entire debate is academic. Also, if humans fight this off themselves instead of watching the Council show up and save the day, they will meet the wider community as people who actually did something, not as rescued primitives. Human ego intact. And kill switch if you will, has been built into the tech to disable it after the conflict which The Council sees us winning. If we then decide to use these weapons against each other they'll simply be disabled until we humans have learned enough to disable the kill-switch which could be thousands of years from now for all I know.

So against a lot of internal resistance, the Council has been quietly providing scalar phase systems to several blocs, not just the US. The list I saw included the United States, China, the European Union through specific channels, Russia, and Brazil. Those systems are being integrated into space platforms, aircraft, and undersea assets. Testing is happening in remote places and high altitudes, often disguised as other things. Most of the people physically working on it think it is an advanced homegrown black program. Only a very small circle in each capital sees the full context. I got to see pieces of that picture shortly before I was pushed into “retirement”, which is a polite way of saying I stopped being convenient. That is as specific as I am willing to get.

There is one more reason I am writing this now, after pondering it for a long time, and it is more personal than the two year clock.

A friend of mine, someone I worked closely with inside the program, another EO specialist, had been talking quietly years ago about going to Congress. Not with everything, they were not suicidal. Just enough to force a real closed door hearing in the Senate, get the true nature of certain SAPs acknowledged on paper, make it harder to bury the whole subject under jokes and career threats.

Over as year ago I got word that they died. The official explanation has been vague and unsatisfying. “Medical complications” on a trip to a black site in the Indian Ocean. Those medical complications do not match what I know about their health, then it became "an accident at home” with no details anyone will put in writing. People who would normally be candid went very quiet very fast. Maybe it was just bad luck. People do die suddenly. But given the threats which are known about within certain IC sectors when one is associated with this subject, I don't know for sure. What I do know is that the last long conversation I had with them was about whether it was worth trying to talk to certain congressional staffers for a certain Senator.

After hearing recent news confirming publicly much of what I know to be true privately I stopped telling myself I would wait and see how things played out. Life is short.

So here we are. Some stranger on the internet telling you an unbelievable story you are free not to believe.

With roughly two years on the clock and the current rate of leaks and “whistleblowers” and half disclosures, it is very unlikely they keep all of this under wraps until the first time something openly not from here appears in our sky or our orbit. At some point before that happens, at least one major government, maybe more, is going to go public in a controlled way. My guess would be China or the US, but it could be one of the others on that scalar weapon list. You will likely get a very carefully worded announcement about unidentified aerial phenomena, about contact with “non human intelligences”, about new defensive technologies and unprecedented international cooperation. It will be designed to manage panic and control the story.

What you probably will not hear in the first round of briefings is the part about the Erids, the economic implications of their society's existence, the billion other habitable planets, the undersea infrastructure that has been here longer than we have had bones. You will not see anyone step up to a podium and say “oh by the way, there is a branch of humanity that grew up without the idea of money and scarcity ten thousand years ago and advanced five millennia past us”.

That is why I am dumping this here, where people can ignore it, laugh at it, or save it and see how it ages.

Like I said, do not have to believe me. I'm not here to sell a book, go on podcasts, be on Tv or do UFO lectures/ Treat this as fiction if that makes you more comfortable. What I am really trying to do is get you to think past the kiddie pool questions. “Are UFOs real” "Are the NHI good or evil?" is not the interesting part. The far more interesting questions are what happens to this planet once everyone knows we are being watched, that we have cousins around another star, that some of the basic assumptions we built our societies around were just one option, not a fundamental law of nature.

If in a year or two you start hearing officials talk about “our cousins among the stars” or “civilizations far older than ours” and “new non kinetic systems” and “shared planetary defense”, remember this post and see how well it fits. Look, the bugs are coming either way. The Council is not going to save us directly. They already handed out the tools and they are watching to see what we do with them.

The part that is still up to us is what kind of world we build if we get through it. Will we all go back to work and beat each other over the head with really advanced sticks or do we achieve a more enlightened potential?

That is all I have.

Rhea
“The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.” - Henri Bergson
12/2/2025 8:52:45 AM EDT
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Wow I have never been into the astrology thing and I don’t really understand it but this probably needs paying attention to.  I have zero idea where Stefan gets his knowledge about all these solar flares, major planet alignments, etc but this sounds very very believable.  He and many others are predicting a major stock market crash along with these solar flares changing our DNA, and goes heavily into our consciousness amongst other things.  This is from a livestream I just happened to catch already in progress last night at probably already 30 minutes into that somehow really grabbed my attention.  It’s worth the watch if you can find time.  These are two very intelligent young men.  The other guy I don’t even know who he is.  As far as the crash he goes back and finds the exact same planet alignments in 1929.
Stefan is much deeper into this Awakening thing than I had imagined. The only thing I know about astrology is my birth sign.  All the rest of it I always considered woo woo bullshit.
Is there a 3I/ATLAS Coverup? The Unusual Planetary Convergence Exposing THE TRUTH with Dan Waites
12/2/2025 5:43:38 PM EDT
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I am posting it here, because I see it as a consequence of "Disclosure" in general,

Michael Shellenberger says we're headed towards "Massive Disclosure"

It's a post on X -


ETA - failed embed. I really don't know why, embedding has been broken (for X) as of late; linking:

Rubio believes that elements within the US government have recovered technology from a nonhuman intelligence
12/3/2025 7:36:27 AM EDT
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I’m wondering, was the Star of Bethlehem actually a UFO?  This thought has crossed my mind more than once in my lifetime .  I have never seen a believable explanation for it otherwise.
12/3/2025 8:06:18 AM EDT
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Something that has proven to me how we all live different realities is at times I will make my wife watch what I term one of my “God videos” and she will suddenly say it’s just repeating over and over where for me it absolutely is not doing that.  It’s as if the universe is showing her something completely different at the very same time!
12/3/2025 10:33:06 AM EDT
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Aliens CO-EXISTED with Humans in the Ancient World!
12/3/2025 12:36:38 PM EDT
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Rubio’s mission to disclose UFO info a ‘major statement’: Journalist | Elizabeth Vargas Reports
12/3/2025 2:21:57 PM EDT
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Not sure on that one. But there is some evidence the pillar of smoke during the day, and pillar of fire during the night Moses and the Israelites followed was a volcanic eruption.

https://ancientexodus.com/was-mount-sinai-a-volcano/
“The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.” - Henri Bergson
12/3/2025 3:49:28 PM EDT
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I think that option has been burned as a hypothesis after last night's Rubio interview to Hannity.

He - essentially - walked back most things related to disclosure and UAPs, affirming he had been selectively edited, that he had no first person information on anything and that all the individuals in the documentary were either liars, crazy or simply telling the truth.

Quite disappointing.
12/3/2025 4:39:07 PM EDT
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I think that option has been burned as a hypothesis after last night's Rubio interview to Hannity.

He - essentially - walked back most things related to disclosure and UAPs, affirming he had been selectively edited, that he had no first person information on anything and that all the individuals in the documentary were either liars, crazy or simply telling the truth.

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In other words they got to him.  He was at the screening and saw the previews.  He knows exactly what he said.
12/4/2025 9:29:24 AM EDT
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Does Rubio have a shiner?  Serious question.  Filter out the celebrities and look at the politicians.

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“The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.” - Henri Bergson
12/4/2025 10:53:01 AM EDT
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Now I think I know why Nasa has been so silent about 3I/Atlas.  During April and May of next year earth is going to pass through where this so called comet has been.  That timeline ring a bell with anyone else?

This Changes EVERYTHING (not clickbait) ?? 3I/ATLAS and the Interstellar Seed Hypothesis
12/4/2025 11:14:04 AM EDT
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12/4/2025 9:05:22 PM EDT
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12/5/2025 11:14:47 AM EDT
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The first half was all just one person after another telling me how great Lue Elizondo is which is incredibly weird on so many levels. I shut it off there.

Also, why would I suddenly believe all the same scumbag liars from government? If anything, this made me question this whole thing again. Maybe we really are alone. Maybe that's worse.
12/5/2025 11:19:35 AM EDT
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I think the statements Rubio made on Hannity are pretty fucking big.  He was simply stating he himself has never seen absolute proof but either these very high ranking gov't officials are telling the truth or else they are lying or crazy.  These are high ranking trusted people under oath!  I think it was pretty clear what he was actually saying and he has seen the documents.
Rubio’s remarks about UFO info ‘explosive’: Ex-analyst | Elizabeth Vargas Reports
12/5/2025 1:59:18 PM EDT
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Which movie did you watch?  That's not accurate at all.
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12/5/2025 3:31:36 PM EDT
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Which movie did you watch?  That's not accurate at all.


I'll watch it again when I have a chance to confirm, but it was practically every single interviewee found a way to try and tell me how great Lue is. The whole time I was thinking how the title didn't match the content. It's certainly the right movie though. Definitely some bias/misguided focus on my part both because I don't trust Lue as well as this all being information we already knew, but I'm confident that what I said is accurate.
12/5/2025 4:34:29 PM EDT
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I'll watch it again when I have a chance to confirm, but it was practically every single interviewee found a way to try and tell me how great Lue is. The whole time I was thinking how the title didn't match the content. It's certainly the right movie though. Definitely some bias/misguided focus on my part both because I don't trust Lue as well as this all being information we already knew, but I'm confident that what I said is accurate.
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Did you buy or rent Age of Disclosure on Amazon?  This doesn't sound like what I watched but everyone's reality is very different so could be you and the way you view things.
12/5/2025 8:21:34 PM EDT
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There's also the Battle For Disclosure movie by Greer from last year. Maybe you grabbed that by mistake?

I dunno. I haven't watched either, so...
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12/6/2025 8:26:19 AM EDT
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I don’t know when this interview actually took place since it mentions weekend.  Last week maybe?
Come to think of it I think we’ve already seen this so maybe disregard most of this post.  Only on my second cup of coffee this morning lol

From Reddit
Dan Farah  Fox 32 interview on YT

Senior senators, people in administration say the doors have been blown open

Time stamp 11:05

Dan Farah: "There is no way to put the genie back in the bottle as they say. I've been getting messages from senior senators and people that are involved in the administration all weekend, saying basically 'the doors just been blown open' and 'the government doesn't have any choice but to walk through it in some in some regard'"


Dan Farah: "I think it's only a matter of time before we see a sitting president step to the microphone and tell the world we're not alone in the universe. And that the US intends to lead the way in this new chapter for humanity. I think that is going to happen as a result of this movie. The only question is when. I don't think we're too far off from that point"

There is a lot more at the link.  I’m having a hell of a time trying to copy this stuff using my phone instead of my computer.
12/6/2025 9:06:38 AM EDT
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Does Rubio have a shiner?  Serious question.  Filter out the celebrities and look at the politicians.

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Probably got smacked by a UFO.
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12/6/2025 12:59:01 PM EDT
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The pressure has to be growing the way this stuff is being discussed.

‘We NEED Trump To Release This Information’ Is Alien Existence Being Hidden? With David Kipping
12/6/2025 1:41:46 PM EDT
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I missed this about the Buga Sphere.  This is a Youtube short link.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/luMohpS-baE
12/6/2025 10:03:42 PM EDT
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With half the people on the planet having cell phones with cameras, can someone explain why there aren't any decent photos of aliens, bigfoot, Nessie, or jackalopes?
12/6/2025 10:31:49 PM EDT
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Because cell phones are absolutely awful at taking pictures of things at night and they're nearly as bad at taking pictures of small objects at a distance in the sky, during the day.

Additionally, when you're seeing something incredible that you weren't expecting, you don't think about pulling out your phone to take video or a picture.  I can speak from experience.

It's really that simple so using the old "where are all the cell phone videos?" debunk is a weak one.  Not to mention the fact that any time a video IS shown, the skeptics all claim it's fake or mundane anyway so you can't pretend that some cell phone pics are going to convince anyone of anything.
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
12/7/2025 10:25:44 AM EDT
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Because cell phones are absolutely awful at taking pictures of things at night and they're nearly as bad at taking pictures of small objects at a distance in the sky, during the day.

Additionally, when you're seeing something incredible that you weren't expecting, you don't think about pulling out your phone to take video or a picture.  I can speak from experience.

It's really that simple so using the old "where are all the cell phone videos?" debunk is a weak one.  Not to mention the fact that any time a video IS shown, the skeptics all claim it's fake or mundane anyway so you can't pretend that some cell phone pics are going to convince anyone of anything.
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With half the people on the planet having cell phones with cameras, can someone explain why there aren't any decent photos of aliens, bigfoot, Nessie, or jackalopes?
Because cell phones are absolutely awful at taking pictures of things at night and they're nearly as bad at taking pictures of small objects at a distance in the sky, during the day.

Additionally, when you're seeing something incredible that you weren't expecting, you don't think about pulling out your phone to take video or a picture.  I can speak from experience.

It's really that simple so using the old "where are all the cell phone videos?" debunk is a weak one.  Not to mention the fact that any time a video IS shown, the skeptics all claim it's fake or mundane anyway so you can't pretend that some cell phone pics are going to convince anyone of anything.

Not to mention many are apparently surrounded by an energy field of some sort that make taking good photos and videos impossible.  Plus everyone immediately goes full zoom which is an awful way to take pictures and videos.  Leave regular and zoom in afterward seems to work best for me taking regular pictures of stull like say a hawk sitting off in the distance.
12/7/2025 11:38:43 AM EDT
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Many encounters, including mine, predate cellphones.
12/8/2025 9:52:22 AM EDT
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Video inside posted on Reddit.  Rep. Burlison on Trump getting briefed on Nordic Aliens
Rep. Burlison on Trump getting briefed on Nordic Aliens
12/8/2025 10:05:42 AM EDT
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I thought I posted this here last night but mistakenly posted it on the 3I/Atlas thread.  
This is true disclosure right fucking here!!  This is share worthy with the ones you love to open their eyes!  This young woman explains thing very clearly especially for those not already awake.
My wife shared this with a close friend last night that recently lost her husband.  We never really die.  Not the important part anyway.

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12/8/2025 12:16:25 PM EDT
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I thought I posted this here last night but mistakenly posted it on the 3I/Atlas thread.  
This is true disclosure right fucking here!!  This is share worthy with the ones you love to open their eyes!  This young woman explains thing very clearly especially for those not already awake.
My wife shared this with a close friend last night that recently lost her husband.  We never really die.  Not the important part anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EhKmNv0qHk

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It's been a while now that I embraced this as well. And not in the religious way we've been taught (Christianity) - but in this still spiritual yet 'technical' way.

Short version of what I've been saying recently (even to my 84 years old dad), "I don't believe in death anymore"
12/8/2025 12:47:59 PM EDT
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It's been a while now that I embraced this as well. And not in the religious way we've been taught (Christianity) - but in this still spiritual yet 'technical' way.

Short version of what I've been saying recently (even to my 84 years old dad), "I don't believe in death anymore"
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
I thought I posted this here last night but mistakenly posted it on the 3I/Atlas thread.  
This is true disclosure right fucking here!!  This is share worthy with the ones you love to open their eyes!  This young woman explains thing very clearly especially for those not already awake.
My wife shared this with a close friend last night that recently lost her husband.  We never really die.  Not the important part anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EhKmNv0qHk

It's been a while now that I embraced this as well. And not in the religious way we've been taught (Christianity) - but in this still spiritual yet 'technical' way.

Short version of what I've been saying recently (even to my 84 years old dad), "I don't believe in death anymore"

I need to show this to my nearly 90y/o mother.  My father was an M.D. Died in 1973.  I once mentioned the white light to her and she had never heard about it with as many times as it's been on the news, TV shows, movies etc throughout my entire life..  I told her recently about the fact we had been lied to our entire lives and were in fact each god himself and she did believe the way I explained it and does believe there is life after death.  I just feel this video does a great job of really explaining things.  She herself has seen ghost after the death of my stepfather visited her so she is a believer of sorts.
12/9/2025 9:34:38 AM EDT
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Oscar-Contending Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Doc 'The Age Of Disclosure' Becomes VOD Phenomenon, Outperforming 'One Battle After Another' & More

Age of Disclosure is the #1 best selling documentary of all time on Prime video. Debuted #1 for purchases and #2 for rentals in all film genre categories. Has outperformed "One Battle After Another", "Weapons", "Conjuring", "Jurassic World Rebirth" and "Tron Ares".

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