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Posted: 12/21/2005 5:33:57 PM EDT
Has anyone else seen the new DPMS .308 M4? It's been reviewed on pg.56 of this months American Rifleman. 16" M4 profile barrel with a collapsible stock, flash suppressor and a bayonet lug!!! I gotta go clean my jeans now!
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Posted: 12/21/2005 5:35:47 PM EDT
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Yup, it was good to see it there...
Oh wait, the the NRA is just a bunch of smug deer and duck hunters who don't care about anything other than Remchesters. 
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Posted: 12/21/2005 5:37:07 PM EDT
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If it only took fal mags.
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Posted: 12/21/2005 5:37:21 PM EDT
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It aint new....
But if i had the money i might get it. |
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Posted: 12/21/2005 5:37:52 PM EDT
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My shoulder aches just thinking about a .308 in such a lightweight package.
But I'd buy one in heartbeat anyway. 
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Posted: 12/21/2005 5:38:10 PM EDT
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It wouldn't work. 
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Posted: 12/21/2005 5:38:36 PM EDT
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Then it could shear lugs too! |
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Posted: 12/21/2005 5:38:41 PM EDT
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Don't let the Tactical Ninja exterior of the gun fool you. The .308 is an excellent deer round. I can't wait until Beta makes mags for that gun! |
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Posted: 12/21/2005 5:39:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2005 5:40:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2005 5:40:49 PM EDT
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I heard that! But they (fal mags) is so cheap 
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Posted: 12/21/2005 5:43:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2005 5:43:46 PM EDT
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That's what FAL's are for.. Cheap mags don't make the gun.... Ask Bushmaster .
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Posted: 12/21/2005 5:44:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2005 5:46:54 PM EDT
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Yes, just as I predicted here when it was announced. Bushmaster has since announced that their .308 line has been cancelled. -Troy |
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Posted: 12/21/2005 5:50:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2005 5:51:21 PM EDT
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.308 and the theory behind the M4 don't equate or mix, IMHO.
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Posted: 12/21/2005 6:02:02 PM EDT
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i have a magazine article on a busy 308 ar to that takes fal mags, at least i think it was a busy i will look later
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Posted: 12/21/2005 6:08:53 PM EDT
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Bushmaster DID have an AR in .308. They stopped making them after problems with broken bolts, it sold lame, and they thought people want a carbon fiber 9mm instead. |
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Posted: 12/21/2005 6:12:09 PM EDT
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Pretty decent rifle for carrying around in Alaska and urban combat ops..... |
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Posted: 12/21/2005 6:13:58 PM EDT
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Bleh.. Gimme a regular stock and a 20" barrel
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Posted: 12/21/2005 6:16:21 PM EDT
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I'm going to try mine out on monday
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Posted: 12/21/2005 6:20:10 PM EDT
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I'll just stick with my Armalite AR10 20"!
BigDozer66 |
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Posted: 12/21/2005 6:20:44 PM EDT
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Except why IN THE HELL would anyone put an M4 cut in the barrel? This tourist trap BS gets on my nerves. |
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Posted: 12/21/2005 6:22:25 PM EDT
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Point to Combat jack.......agreed. Dumb marketing ploy that could have saved us at least $5 on the price.
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Posted: 12/21/2005 6:27:05 PM EDT
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So that you can mount your 37mm distress flare launcher. |
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Posted: 12/21/2005 6:28:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2005 7:03:30 PM EDT
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The FAL mag is narrow and designed to feed to the center. This works just fine in the tilt-rear locking bolt setup on the FAL. In order for ammo to feed correctly in the AR, it was necessary to remove the bottom (6-o'clock) locking lug, which did indeed cause unbalanced stress on the bolt and resulted in bolt lugs cracking and sheering off. There is no way to avoid this with the AR's bolt design. Hesse and ASA tried to make FAL-mag ARs a couple of years before BM, and they left the lug in place. To the surprise of no one who understands how ARs work, they could never get the ammo to feed around the bottom lug reliably from the narrow, center-feeding FAL mags. FAL mags and the AR design are INCOMPATIBLE. Some people STILL need to come to grips with this reality. -Troy |
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Posted: 12/21/2005 7:11:54 PM EDT
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Are you sure it wasen't because it was Hesse and ASA? 
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Posted: 12/21/2005 7:13:46 PM EDT
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OH Thank God.
DPMS... I won't have to buy one.
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Posted: 12/21/2005 11:02:51 PM EDT
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The it would have the same bolt breakage issues that the BAR-10 did. Troy did a good writeup about this, but essentially the bolt is too weak after removing one of the locking lugs to get it to feed from the center. Dave |
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