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Posted: 2/18/2012 5:39:01 PM EDT
My Dad had a Lowes contractor come out on Friday to put a bid in for 11 windows. Pella is the brand and they are replacements. Double pane glass and they're Vinyl windows.

I think the R rating was 3 on them.

$2800 was the rough estimate depending on changes on the bid.

The windows in the house now, Are original from 1948.
Link Posted: 2/18/2012 5:46:34 PM EDT
I didn't realize how nice double pane windows are until we moved

You'd almost want to keep that glass from 1948, but how
Link Posted: 2/18/2012 5:47:08 PM EDT
Windows + Labor or just windows? Either way that's not bad. Great with the labor
Link Posted: 2/18/2012 5:50:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Mosspointers:
Windows + Labor or just windows? Either way that's not bad. Great with the labor


That's windows and labor.
Link Posted: 2/18/2012 5:52:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/18/2012 6:00:27 PM EDT by MrGoodkat]
I'm going through the process now as well. Windows and siding. My windows are only 36 years old though!

Lowe's is VERY high on windows, at least in this area. I've been looking at vinyl new constructions windows. Local lumberyards here are quite a bit cheaper. If you have a Menards in your area, they are the most reasonable.

What type of windows (single-hung, double-hung, slider, etc.)?
Link Posted: 2/18/2012 5:53:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ZByam:
Originally Posted By Mosspointers:
Windows + Labor or just windows? Either way that's not bad. Great with the labor


That's windows and labor.


That is damn cheap for 11 windows.
Link Posted: 2/18/2012 5:54:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Palm:
Originally Posted By ZByam:
Originally Posted By Mosspointers:
Windows + Labor or just windows? Either way that's not bad. Great with the labor


That's windows and labor.


That is damn cheap for 11 windows.


Sign the contract quickly, after reading it of course.
Link Posted: 2/18/2012 5:59:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Mosspointers:
Originally Posted By Palm:
Originally Posted By ZByam:
Originally Posted By Mosspointers:
Windows + Labor or just windows? Either way that's not bad. Great with the labor


That's windows and labor.


That is damn cheap for 11 windows.


Sign the contract quickly, after reading it of course.


He will be back on Monday to go over the contract.
Link Posted: 2/18/2012 6:09:39 PM EDT
Just a little over $200 a window? I don't have a window in my house that was that cheap 15 years ago! Maybe my basement windows?
Link Posted: 2/18/2012 6:13:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Palm:
Originally Posted By ZByam:
Originally Posted By Mosspointers:
Windows + Labor or just windows? Either way that's not bad. Great with the labor


That's windows and labor.


That is damn cheap for 11 windows.

Yep

Link Posted: 2/18/2012 6:17:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By dirtyboy:
Just a little over $200 a window? I don't have a window in my house that was that cheap 15 years ago! Maybe my basement windows?


I think he quoted $214 per window.
Link Posted: 2/18/2012 6:51:57 PM EDT
Not too bad. I had 10 vinyl gas charged windows installed for right around that price back in 2k4 or 5. They do make a heck of a difference on heating/cooling, and most noticeably on sound damping.
Link Posted: 2/18/2012 6:59:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ZByam:
My Dad had a Lowes contractor come out on Friday to put a bid in for 11 windows. Pella is the brand and they are replacements. Double pane glass and they're Vinyl windows.

I think the R rating was 3 on them.

$2800 was the rough estimate depending on changes on the bid.

The windows in the house now, Are original from 1948.

That ain't a bad price.

You won't believe the difference they'll make in terms of keeping the place cool/warm and bills will be much lower.

Link Posted: 2/18/2012 7:00:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ZByam:
Originally Posted By dirtyboy:
Just a little over $200 a window? I don't have a window in my house that was that cheap 15 years ago! Maybe my basement windows?


I think he quoted $214 per window.

Pella ain't the best, but they ain't the worst either.
Link Posted: 2/18/2012 7:05:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/18/2012 7:09:29 PM EDT by ar-jedi]
Originally Posted By ZByam:
Originally Posted By dirtyboy:
Just a little over $200 a window? I don't have a window in my house that was that cheap 15 years ago! Maybe my basement windows?

I think he quoted $214 per window.

$214 per window –– including installation –– is way low. you should get references, like 7 of them, for the contractor who is going to put the windows in. make sure some of those references are for jobs he did 3 to 5 years ago.

seriously, it takes an hour, easily, to set and flash a window properly. more if there are complications. and even a decent double glazed casement window, 24x30, with no moving parts, is going to be more than $150.

double, triple check what you are getting, who is doing the work, and what kind of work they do.

also, read:
http://www.replacement-windows.com/windowbb/

ar-jedi

Link Posted: 2/18/2012 7:09:37 PM EDT
Did he give you some references? Did you see an actual, complete window? Make sure you do your research.
Link Posted: 2/18/2012 7:25:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/18/2012 7:27:18 PM EDT by ar-jedi]
Originally Posted By ZByam:
I think the R rating was 3 on them.

ps:

the "R rating" typically applied to insulation is generally not used with windows, because it is not specific enough.

windows are rated in four basic parameters:
–– U-factor
–– Solar Heat Gain Coefficient
–– Visible Transmittance
–– Air leakage.

these 4 parameters are *the most important* for comparing windows, and the testing is standardized so you can make apples-to-apples comparisons between window types and brands. there will DEFINITELY be a sticker on the window with these 4 parameters.

here is a decent tutorial on these parameters:
www.wascowindows.com/Documents/U-factor.pdf

ar-jedi

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Link Posted: 2/18/2012 7:56:43 PM EDT
The quote sounds extremely low for windows and labor.

I live in a McHouse and not only do I have the shittiest double pane windows on the planet (I can stand outside and have a conversation with my gf in-side, at normal conversation voice), but whoever installed them did the shittiest job ever! You can pull the calk and there is open space around the windows, my calk cracks about every two years.

FWIW: My quote was about $5k for 10 windows... granted four fronts are REAL tall (8'+)
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