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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:06:53 AM EDT
[#1]
The AR15 is now dead in MA. Not even the SafeAct abortion would be legal in MA.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:15:20 AM EDT
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Your move NY......And you know they will.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:15:58 AM EDT
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From the attorney general of Massistan: The Massachusetts assault weapons ban mirrors the federal ban Congress allowed to expire in 2004. It prohibits the sale of specific weapons like the Colt AR-15 and AK-47 and explicitly bans “copies or duplicates” of those weapons. But gun manufacturers have taken it upon themselves to define what a “copy” or “duplicate” weapon is. They market “state compliant” copycat versions of their assault weapons to Massachusetts buyers. They sell guns without a flash suppressor or folding or telescoping stock, for example, small tweaks that do nothing to limit the lethalness of the weapon.
That will end now. On Wednesday, we are sending a directive to all gun manufacturers and dealers that makes clear that the sale of these copycat assault weapons is illegal in Massachusetts. With this directive, we will ensure we get the full protection intended when lawmakers enacted our assault weapons ban, not the watered-down version of those protections offered by gun manufacturers. The directive specifically outlines two tests to determine what constitutes a “copy” or “duplicate” of a prohibited weapon. If a gun’s operating system is essentially the same as that of a banned weapon, or if the gun has components that are interchangeable with those of a banned weapon, it’s a “copy” or “duplicate,” and it is illegal. Assault weapons prohibited under our laws cannot be altered in any way to make their sale or possession legal in Massachusetts... Then why did the law use these features as reason to ban them dumbfucks? So a bolt action AR15 would be banned because it shares components with the Semi AR15? And since banned semi AR15 use a gas/recoil system then all other semi auto rifles would also be banned? Seems like these 2 would be enough to challenge the interpretation goes beyond the law that was originally passed. We passed a law that says no exotic sports cars on the road will be allowed or copies of said vehicles. Well now we say copies include any car with same drive systems or cars that share interchangeable parts. Your car uses 4 round rubber devices that allow your car to speed. Yup its a copy + banned |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:19:05 AM EDT
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What did I miss, this seemed like it sprang up out of nowhere, quickly. I don't live in MA, but this pisses me off all the same.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:19:09 AM EDT
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California and New York will not be outdone.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:19:20 AM EDT
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Then why did the law use these features as reason to ban them dumbfucks? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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From the attorney general of Massistan: The Massachusetts assault weapons ban mirrors the federal ban Congress allowed to expire in 2004. It prohibits the sale of specific weapons like the Colt AR-15 and AK-47 and explicitly bans “copies or duplicates” of those weapons. But gun manufacturers have taken it upon themselves to define what a “copy” or “duplicate” weapon is. They market “state compliant” copycat versions of their assault weapons to Massachusetts buyers. They sell guns without a flash suppressor or folding or telescoping stock, for example, small tweaks that do nothing to limit the lethalness of the weapon.
That will end now. On Wednesday, we are sending a directive to all gun manufacturers and dealers that makes clear that the sale of these copycat assault weapons is illegal in Massachusetts. With this directive, we will ensure we get the full protection intended when lawmakers enacted our assault weapons ban, not the watered-down version of those protections offered by gun manufacturers. The directive specifically outlines two tests to determine what constitutes a “copy” or “duplicate” of a prohibited weapon. If a gun’s operating system is essentially the same as that of a banned weapon, or if the gun has components that are interchangeable with those of a banned weapon, it’s a “copy” or “duplicate,” and it is illegal. Assault weapons prohibited under our laws cannot be altered in any way to make their sale or possession legal in Massachusetts... Then why did the law use these features as reason to ban them dumbfucks? "It's like rain on your wedding, it's a free ride, when you've already payed, it's the good advice that you just didn't take..." |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:19:33 AM EDT
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The birthplace of freedom!
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:19:51 AM EDT
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The AR15 is now dead in MA. Not even the SafeAct abortion would be legal in MA. Interpretation vs exact verbiage, I smell multiple court challenges... The state wasting your tax dollars to try and exert their privelege, perhaps its time the state finds out that receiving tax funding is just a privelege...consent of the governed. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:21:34 AM EDT
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Who would have thought?
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:22:05 AM EDT
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What did I miss, this seemed like it sprang up out of nowhere, quickly. I don't live in MA, but this pisses me off all the same. Same. So is this just a re-interpretation of an existing law/ban? |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:22:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then why did the law use these features as reason to ban them dumbfucks? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: From the attorney general of Massistan: The Massachusetts assault weapons ban mirrors the federal ban Congress allowed to expire in 2004. It prohibits the sale of specific weapons like the Colt AR-15 and AK-47 and explicitly bans "copies or duplicates” of those weapons. But gun manufacturers have taken it upon themselves to define what a "copy” or "duplicate” weapon is. They market "state compliant” copycat versions of their assault weapons to Massachusetts buyers. They sell guns without a flash suppressor or folding or telescoping stock, for example, small tweaks that do nothing to limit the lethalness of the weapon. That will end now. On Wednesday, we are sending a directive to all gun manufacturers and dealers that makes clear that the sale of these copycat assault weapons is illegal in Massachusetts. With this directive, we will ensure we get the full protection intended when lawmakers enacted our assault weapons ban, not the watered-down version of those protections offered by gun manufacturers. The directive specifically outlines two tests to determine what constitutes a "copy” or "duplicate” of a prohibited weapon. If a gun’s operating system is essentially the same as that of a banned weapon, or if the gun has components that are interchangeable with those of a banned weapon, it’s a "copy” or "duplicate,” and it is illegal. Assault weapons prohibited under our laws cannot be altered in any way to make their sale or possession legal in Massachusetts... Then why did the law use these features as reason to ban them dumbfucks? That was the first thing I thought. So this would ban ANY DI or piston driven semi-auto weapon? "If a gun’s operating system is essentially the same as that of a banned weapon" |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:23:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:23:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then why did the law use these features as reason to ban them dumbfucks? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: From the attorney general of Massistan: The Massachusetts assault weapons ban mirrors the federal ban Congress allowed to expire in 2004. It prohibits the sale of specific weapons like the Colt AR-15 and AK-47 and explicitly bans "copies or duplicates” of those weapons. But gun manufacturers have taken it upon themselves to define what a "copy” or "duplicate” weapon is. They market "state compliant” copycat versions of their assault weapons to Massachusetts buyers. They sell guns without a flash suppressor or folding or telescoping stock, for example, small tweaks that do nothing to limit the lethalness of the weapon. That will end now. On Wednesday, we are sending a directive to all gun manufacturers and dealers that makes clear that the sale of these copycat assault weapons is illegal in Massachusetts. With this directive, we will ensure we get the full protection intended when lawmakers enacted our assault weapons ban, not the watered-down version of those protections offered by gun manufacturers. The directive specifically outlines two tests to determine what constitutes a "copy” or "duplicate” of a prohibited weapon. If a gun’s operating system is essentially the same as that of a banned weapon, or if the gun has components that are interchangeable with those of a banned weapon, it’s a "copy” or "duplicate,” and it is illegal. Assault weapons prohibited under our laws cannot be altered in any way to make their sale or possession legal in Massachusetts... Then why did the law use these features as reason to ban them dumbfucks? Because it's taken them twenty years to even get a small notion of how guns work and what makes them different. They could've gotten one gun owner drunk in 1993, asked him what wording of the law would fuck him the most, and done a lot more damage. But, lucky for us, the idiots backing gun laws are usually "the shoulder thing that goes up" level of retarded. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:24:02 AM EDT
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So, a state-compliant AR-15 is not defined as an assault weapon because its lacking features of an "assault weapon" but since it still acts like an "assault weapon" (however they think an assault weapon works) it therefore must finally be banned.
What a bunch of retards in command. 
#blackriflesmatter |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:24:24 AM EDT
[#15]
What is MA gonna do? Go out of state and arrest the CEO of of some of these manufacturers?
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:25:23 AM EDT
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Bundle civil rights, give up any and give up all. There is no reason for people in gun control states to have the vote or any other civil rights.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:25:50 AM EDT
[#17]
wait, which law in MA allows for this? I want to see it codified or its bullshit.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:27:10 AM EDT
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What is MA gonna do? Go out of state and arrest the CEO of of some of these manufacturers? All they need to do is intimidate the gun shops into compliance. It doesn't even matter if it is legal. They've done the same thing with mail order ammunition. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:28:45 AM EDT
[#19]
Does that mean Smith & Wesson will be relocating to a free state?
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:29:03 AM EDT
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Does that mean Smith & Wesson will be relocating to a free state? i doubt it |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:30:21 AM EDT
[#21]
Link OP?
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:31:47 AM EDT
[#22]
One more reason to try and convince my GFs family to retire in a free state.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:32:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:33:19 AM EDT
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Anyone have a link? I can't find anything
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:33:26 AM EDT
[#25]
So anything that can accept a 1/2x28 muzzle device . Or the magazine. Or a screw, pin, clip, etc...
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:33:45 AM EDT
[#26]
ASSachusetts
The Black Hole of Freedom |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:34:24 AM EDT
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I'm surprised cuomo didn't do it first
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:35:49 AM EDT
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As the FSA grows this plague will never stop.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:36:22 AM EDT
[#29]
That law, if it is even a law, should be struck down in the courts as too vague.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:38:13 AM EDT
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... So this would ban ANY DI or piston driven semi-auto weapon? "If a gun’s operating system is essentially the same as that of a banned weapon" You're being too narrow in your "essentially the same" reasoning. They'll be calling it like this eventually: "if it has a firing pin instead of an external hammer... if it has any sort of magazine other than a revolving cylinder... if it uses a rifled barrel instead of a smooth bore... if it uses cased ammo instead of a separate charge and ball..."
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:38:28 AM EDT
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Tinfoil hat time:
May 24 the MA attorney general met with the white house to discuss gun control and the purpose of her meeting according to her speech (available on her website in .PDF) was to "share ideas and find solutions". Then this literally comes out of nowhere less than 2 months later. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:42:27 AM EDT
[#32]
How about pre-1994 AR-15's?
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:43:50 AM EDT
[#33]
So they passed a law and were upset that people complied with their law, because they didn't really want compliance. They wanted total prohibition, which is unconstitutional.
MA is proving that the "common sense gun laws that respect 2A rights" argument that the left has been using is a total lie. Not that we didn't know this already. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:43:53 AM EDT
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Link OP? It's not up on the MA AG site yet. https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/07/20/the-loophole-mass-assault-weapons-ban/eEvOBklTriWcGznmXqSpYM/story.html#comments Cold link |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:44:15 AM EDT
[#35]
Link? I see nothing on GOAL.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:45:15 AM EDT
[#36]
I don't actually see this happening.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:46:06 AM EDT
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Link? I see nothing on GOAL. This happened this morning. Surprise! |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:46:48 AM EDT
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I don't actually see this happening. I can see it easily happening. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:51:39 AM EDT
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The birthplace of freedom! |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:51:43 AM EDT
[#40]
Nvm
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:52:52 AM EDT
[#41]
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I can see it easily happening. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't actually see this happening. I can see it easily happening. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Not legally. We fought, and won, against a SAFE style law last year. We are not going down without a fight. Fuck that whore Maura Healey. Bitch will get tarred and feathered. The old school way. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:53:08 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:53:41 AM EDT
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This happened this morning. Surprise! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Link? I see nothing on GOAL. This happened this morning. Surprise! So, illegally. Not surprising from our latest in a line of current AG's. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:54:28 AM EDT
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One state at a time.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:54:46 AM EDT
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No news here, no surprises. The citizens of MA are much safer today then they were yesterday. There won't be anymore gun violence now that the law has been clarified.
MA has been on my no go list for a long time. Fuck them! |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:55:09 AM EDT
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Bunch of fucking traitors.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:56:48 AM EDT
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CALCULATED strategy.
Start with the most sympathetic state's attorney, progress through most sympathetic court system and batter the 2nd amendment to death with anti freedom government apparatchiks. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:57:04 AM EDT
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Not legally. We fought, and won, against a SAFE style law last year. We are not going down without a fight. Fuck that whore Maura Healey. Bitch will get tarred and feathered. The old school way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't actually see this happening. I can see it easily happening. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Not legally. We fought, and won, against a SAFE style law last year. We are not going down without a fight. Fuck that whore Maura Healey. Bitch will get tarred and feathered. The old school way. no she won't 
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Posted: 7/20/2016 8:59:03 AM EDT
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Massachusetts just banned every semi auto rifle and shotgun. I am glad to see the truth come out . I hope the government comes after the first amendment just as hard..
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Posted: 7/20/2016 9:01:02 AM EDT
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Can anyone from MA confirm this? Seems that it would be an easy google....it's not.
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