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Posted: 1/7/2012 5:40:00 PM EDT
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-57354488-52/worlds-largest-passenger-plane-may-be-unsafe-some-say/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20

The BBC reports that the engineers are concerned about small cracks that have appeared on the wing ribs of some Airbus A380 airplanes, and that they're calling for the whole fleet to be grounded for investigation.

The cracks were found on A380s operated by Singapore Airlines and Qantas Airways, the BBC reports, and Singapore Airlines says it has repaired the wings of two of its A380s.




Link Posted: 1/7/2012 5:40:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/7/2012 5:54:16 PM EDT by rfm05]
No shit. They're French.

ETA-what a way to waste post #6000. Shit talking the French.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 5:41:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By rfm05:
No shit. They're French.


Pfffft
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 5:41:52 PM EDT
oh snap
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 5:42:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 5:44:02 PM EDT
Duct tape it.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 5:44:55 PM EDT
I have always thought that Airbus made a substandard product.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 5:45:55 PM EDT
If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going...
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 5:46:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By hobbsar:
I have always thought that Airbus made a substandard product.

Lately, it's been due to unnecessary over-complication of a variety of systems.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 5:46:42 PM EDT



I thought it'd be about lightning strikes blowing holes in the CF. My bad.


Link Posted: 1/7/2012 5:48:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By rfm05:

Originally Posted By hobbsar:
I have always thought that Airbus made a substandard product.

Lately, it's been due to unnecessary over-complication of a variety of systems.

That's the MO for pretty much every manufacturer everywhere.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 5:48:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By rfm05:

Originally Posted By hobbsar:
I have always thought that Airbus made a substandard product.

Lately, it's been due to unnecessary over-complication of a variety of systems.


Or in this case, the rush to get these jets into production.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 5:49:41 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 5:49:58 PM EDT
I pretty much knew that once you said "airbus"
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 5:50:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thirsty:
Originally Posted By rfm05:

Originally Posted By hobbsar:
I have always thought that Airbus made a substandard product.

Lately, it's been due to unnecessary over-complication of a variety of systems.


Or in this case, the rush to get these jets into production.

Seems like Boeing got it right this time when they kept pushing back the 787 schedule in order to get things right.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 5:50:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By hobbsar:
I have always thought that Airbus made a substandard product.


Link Posted: 1/7/2012 5:52:01 PM EDT
when it first came out that the 380 holds 500 people my first thought was "feed lot!!!"........

who wants to be crammed into a plane with 500 of your closest friends??

Those things are fun to see videos of........such an engineering marvel........
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 5:54:38 PM EDT
It's not the first time a new airframe has had growning pains. I'm no defender of EADS, but this happens all the time.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 5:55:42 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 5:59:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AeroE:
Originally Posted By rfm05:

Originally Posted By thirsty:
Originally Posted By rfm05:

Originally Posted By hobbsar:
I have always thought that Airbus made a substandard product.

Lately, it's been due to unnecessary over-complication of a variety of systems.


Or in this case, the rush to get these jets into production.

Seems like Boeing got it right this time when they kept pushing back the 787 schedule in order to get things right.


What makes you think that?

The last several dash numbers of airplanes have precisely the same detail that is causing the Airbus problem. It's not going to cause a crash unless several stringer ties in a row crack, plus several adjacent ribs see the cracks.



Something about your screen name makes me think you may know a thing or two about aircraft.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 6:02:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AeroE:
Originally Posted By rfm05:

Originally Posted By thirsty:
Originally Posted By rfm05:

Originally Posted By hobbsar:
I have always thought that Airbus made a substandard product.

Lately, it's been due to unnecessary over-complication of a variety of systems.


Or in this case, the rush to get these jets into production.

Seems like Boeing got it right this time when they kept pushing back the 787 schedule in order to get things right.


What makes you think that?

The last several dash numbers of airplanes have precisely the same detail that is causing the Airbus problem. It's not going to cause a crash unless several stringer ties in a row crack, plus several adjacent ribs see the cracks.


True, the cracks aren't nearly as problematic as the engine problems the a380 had on singapore air and qantas flights.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 6:02:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
Originally Posted By AeroE:
Originally Posted By rfm05:

Originally Posted By thirsty:
Originally Posted By rfm05:

Originally Posted By hobbsar:
I have always thought that Airbus made a substandard product.

Lately, it's been due to unnecessary over-complication of a variety of systems.


Or in this case, the rush to get these jets into production.

Seems like Boeing got it right this time when they kept pushing back the 787 schedule in order to get things right.


What makes you think that?

The last several dash numbers of airplanes have precisely the same detail that is causing the Airbus problem. It's not going to cause a crash unless several stringer ties in a row crack, plus several adjacent ribs see the cracks.



Something about your screen name makes me think you may know a thing or two about aircraft.

I have a hunch that you're right
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 6:02:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 6:05:19 PM EDT
That's why they call them scare bus.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 6:09:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AeroE:
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
Originally Posted By AeroE:
Originally Posted By rfm05:

Originally Posted By thirsty:
Originally Posted By rfm05:

Originally Posted By hobbsar:
I have always thought that Airbus made a substandard product.

Lately, it's been due to unnecessary over-complication of a variety of systems.


Or in this case, the rush to get these jets into production.

Seems like Boeing got it right this time when they kept pushing back the 787 schedule in order to get things right.


What makes you think that?

The last several dash numbers of airplanes have precisely the same detail that is causing the Airbus problem. It's not going to cause a crash unless several stringer ties in a row crack, plus several adjacent ribs see the cracks.



Something about your screen name makes me think you may know a thing or two about aircraft.


Structural analysis and integrity in particular from the job end. I'm a bomb guy now, working on this:

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=14897


Cool stuff. My grandfather was an AE / ME at P&W back in the day.
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 6:09:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By rfm05:
No shit. They're French.

ETA-what a way to waste post #6000. Shit talking the French.


380 wings are made in England.

Link Posted: 1/7/2012 6:44:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
Originally Posted By AeroE:
Originally Posted By rfm05:

Originally Posted By thirsty:
Originally Posted By rfm05:

Originally Posted By hobbsar:
I have always thought that Airbus made a substandard product.

Lately, it's been due to unnecessary over-complication of a variety of systems.


Or in this case, the rush to get these jets into production.

Seems like Boeing got it right this time when they kept pushing back the 787 schedule in order to get things right.


What makes you think that?

The last several dash numbers of airplanes have precisely the same detail that is causing the Airbus problem. It's not going to cause a crash unless several stringer ties in a row crack, plus several adjacent ribs see the cracks.



Something about your screen name makes me think you may know a thing or two about aircraft.


Non-flying dynamic load testing of airframes (accelerated life testing) tries to stay ahead of real time, real flying load influences on strength and durability. However, sometimes "stuff" happens. On the Aardvark, our D6-AC tool steel wing pivots and carry through structure were fairing well in the accelerated life testing. However, the tests did not mimic the forced incursion of rain water and salt spray from real time, real aircraft flying in torrential tropical weather, under the wing skin and into the tool steel structure and subsequent rusting. When I saw the partially rusted, partially bright crack in the remains of a failed wing pivot after a development unit crashed at Nellis, it made quite an impression.
Link Posted: 1/8/2012 9:16:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tangeant:
380 wings are made in England.
Just down the road from me, in fact.
Link Posted: 1/8/2012 9:19:20 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Cromlech:

Originally Posted By tangeant:
380 wings are made in England.
Just down the road from me, in fact.


So it was YOU!!!!
Link Posted: 1/8/2012 9:19:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/8/2012 9:19:54 AM EDT by kevinb120]
Good to know, it goes directly over my home at least once every day
Link Posted: 1/8/2012 9:41:28 AM EDT
Scarebus!!

Everybody panic!!

Furthering my hatred of flying.
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