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10/30/2010 5:42:45 PM EDT
As the title says, I took my new build to the range today but was not able to put a single round down range. I tried Wolf Military Classic, PMC, and Radway Green.



After assembling the rifle, it passed a function test. When fired, the hammer falls but does not even leave a primer strike. When dry firing, the hammer drops but does not seem to spring forward with enough energy. This leads me to believe that there is something wrong with the trigger assembly, specifically the hammer spring.



The fact that no primer strike is left even after letting the BCG ride home points the the BCG. I tore down and reassembled the BCG as the firing pin did not seem to protrude enough, but this had no affect.



All quality components, so I must have assembled something incorrectly. Ideas?



Specs:



MEGA lower

Daniel Defense LPK

BCM upper

BCM gov profile 1/7 CL bbl 14.5" w/ pinned AAC Blackout

Larue BCG




10/30/2010 5:43:13 PM EDT
[#1]
Is it plugged in?
10/30/2010 5:45:32 PM EDT
[#2]
Did you insert the firing pin?
10/30/2010 5:45:43 PM EDT
[#3]
Pics will help us alot, get one of the bolt face with the firing pin pushed as far forward as possible, also good clear pics of the internals




 
10/30/2010 5:45:57 PM EDT
[#4]
Try moving the switch from "safe" to "fire"....
10/30/2010 5:46:51 PM EDT
[#5]
did you assemble the bolt/carrier correctly? try operating the action on the lower without the upper present. You can see if
everything is working as it should. then look at the firing pin and make sure you installed the retaining pin correctly.
10/30/2010 5:47:19 PM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:


Did you insert the firing pin?






That was the first thought I had when I heard "click" instead of "bang." Sure enough, it was there.





I'll snap a couple pics right now.



 
10/30/2010 5:48:12 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Is it plugged in?


I almost pissed myself.



10/30/2010 5:48:20 PM EDT
[#8]
I'm telling you right now I think you're in the wrong forum for this.  It might work but it might not.

10/30/2010 5:48:26 PM EDT
[#9]
Measure the firing pin.  From the rear shoulder area to the tip.  Also check to make sure it moves freely.  Just a couple quick suggestions.  I had a short firing pin that cause a shitload of light primer strikes.
10/30/2010 5:48:31 PM EDT
[#10]
Batteries ?

10/30/2010 5:48:51 PM EDT
[#11]
Do you have the hammer spring arms resting on the trigger pivot pin?




10/30/2010 5:49:10 PM EDT
[#12]
go over to the ar15 section there is a lot of info on them in there, I had issues with one and the guys in there helped me work it out....

my guess is hammer spring is in backwards
10/30/2010 5:49:15 PM EDT
[#13]
did you put 50ftlbs on the barrel nut?
10/30/2010 5:49:50 PM EDT
[#14]
is your firing pin retainer located on the correct side of the pin's shoulder?
10/30/2010 5:50:19 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Do you have the hammer spring arms resting on the trigger pivot pin?

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r316/MACDD/FireControlGroupAnimation.jpg


This.

Or your headspace is WAY off.
10/30/2010 5:50:38 PM EDT
[#16]
Did you apply firing lube to the barrel exterior and buffing lube to the other end as per assembly instructions on page 86-88?
10/30/2010 5:51:23 PM EDT
[#17]



Quoted:


I'm telling you right now I think you're in the wrong forum for this.  It might work but it might not.





I know I should have posted it in the tech forum, but that does not get much traffic.



I'm in a hurry. I gotta get her packed in the Pelican case for a morning flight. I just finished harvest last night and didn't have time to test her out prior.



 
10/30/2010 5:52:11 PM EDT
[#18]



Quoted:


did you put 50ftlbs on the barrel nut?


Its 80 ft lbs.



 
10/30/2010 5:52:45 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
did you assemble the bolt/carrier correctly? try operating the action on the lower without the upper present. You can see if
everything is working as it should. then look at the firing pin and make sure you installed the retaining pin correctly.


I think you can fuck up the hammer if you're not careful doing this.  It goes forward too far and hits where it aught not be hitting.  I could be wrong, but I never let the hammer fall freely without the upper installed.
10/30/2010 5:52:46 PM EDT
[#20]



Quoted:


go over to the ar15 section there is a lot of info on them in there, I had issues with one and the guys in there helped me work it out....



my guess is hammer spring is in backwards


This. Hammer spring is backwards.



 
10/30/2010 5:52:54 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm telling you right now I think you're in the wrong forum for this.  It might work but it might not.


I know I should have posted it in the tech forum, but that does not get much traffic.

I'm in a hurry. I gotta get her packed in the Pelican case for a morning flight. I just finished harvest last night and didn't have time to test her out prior.
 


OK, just be really careful which posts you listed to...

10/30/2010 5:53:02 PM EDT
[#22]
Pics in a bit. Camera needs to be charged.





Ugh. The wages of procrastination.
10/30/2010 5:53:22 PM EDT
[#23]
Did you put gas in it?
10/30/2010 5:54:47 PM EDT
[#24]
Try turning it off, then on again.
10/30/2010 5:56:09 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
go over to the ar15 section there is a lot of info on them in there, I had issues with one and the guys in there helped me work it out....

my guess is hammer spring is in backwards


That's my guess too since everything is supposedly NIB. It's an easy enough mistake to do.

The other guess is an out of spec firing pin (or out of spec BCG), weak FCG springs, gritty or malformed FCG pins.
10/30/2010 5:56:35 PM EDT
[#26]
Reboot it down your driveway?
10/30/2010 5:59:17 PM EDT
[#27]
Front fell off ???

10/30/2010 5:59:43 PM EDT
[#28]
Tagged for technilulz.
10/30/2010 6:01:08 PM EDT
[#29]
Did you forget to lube the mag?
10/30/2010 6:02:00 PM EDT
[#30]



Quoted:


Did you forget to lube the mag?


Yes.



I forgot the blinker fluid too.



 
10/30/2010 6:02:21 PM EDT
[#31]
Same thing happened to me , I had put the hammer spring in wrong (It passed the function check just fine , however primer strikes were REALLY light).
10/30/2010 6:02:28 PM EDT
[#32]
I know I know! Your hammer spring is in backwards. It will look normal but it light strikes.
10/30/2010 6:03:14 PM EDT
[#33]
OP have you ever owned an AR before?
10/30/2010 6:03:20 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
did you assemble the bolt/carrier correctly? try operating the action on the lower without the upper present. You can see if
everything is working as it should. then look at the firing pin and make sure you installed the retaining pin correctly.


Do not let the hammer hit the lower at full power with the upper off. Steel hitting Aluminum is a bad thing. I would ride the hammer forward with your hand if you are going to do this. Go to the tech forums and make sure you put the hammer and trigger springs in properly. There is pics to compare it to. If you did than I would look at your firing pin. Go get another one and see if it is out of spec. They are cheap and you can always use an extra pin. After that it would be a head space problem. Get some gauges.

10/30/2010 6:03:24 PM EDT
[#35]





Quoted:



Tagged for technilulz.



Laughing at my expense, huh?




 
 
10/30/2010 6:03:29 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
As the title says, I took my new build to the range today but was not able to put a single round down range. I tried Wolf Military Classic, PMC, and Radway Green.

After assembling the rifle, it passed a function test. When fired, the hammer falls but does not even leave a primer strike. When dry firing, the hammer drops but does not seem to spring forward with enough energy. This leads me to believe that there is something wrong with the trigger assembly, specifically the hammer spring.

The fact that no primer strike is left even after letting the BCG ride home points the the BCG. I tore down and reassembled the BCG as the firing pin did not seem to protrude enough, but this had no affect.

All quality components, so I must have assembled something incorrectly. Ideas?

Specs:

MEGA lower
Daniel Defense LPK
BCM upper
BCM gov profile 1/7 CL bbl 14.5" w/ pinned AAC Blackout
Larue BCG

[/quote/]

Nobody noticed this???? Nobody remembers the shitstorm about Laure BCGs??

Did I just start a shitsorm??


ETA Damn it I fucked up the quote.
10/30/2010 6:04:54 PM EDT
[#37]



Quoted:


OP have you ever owned an AR before?


Yes. I built my first in 2005. I figured I installed the hammer spring incorrectly, but I needed the hive to confirm before I wasted time punching out the fire control group.



As stated in an earlier post, I am in a hurry.



 
10/30/2010 6:05:55 PM EDT
[#38]
Better get a Bay-Oh-Net
10/30/2010 6:07:39 PM EDT
[#39]
My guess is you probably installed the shoulder thing wrong. It's supposed to go up, not down.
10/30/2010 6:08:14 PM EDT
[#40]



Quoted:


Better get a Bay-Oh-Net


I kinda want one. It might go on my Christmas list.



 
10/30/2010 6:08:19 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm telling you right now I think you're in the wrong forum for this.  It might work but it might not.


I know I should have posted it in the tech forum, but that does not get much traffic.

I'm in a hurry. I gotta get her packed in the Pelican case for a morning flight. I just finished harvest last night and didn't have time to test her out prior.
 


Just carry it on.  It doesn't fire.

What's the worst that could happen?  
10/30/2010 6:09:47 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
Is it plugged in?


Nonsense.  It is a direct gas rifle.  It is clearly out of gas.
10/30/2010 6:09:54 PM EDT
[#43]



Quoted:





Quoted:

did you put 50ftlbs on the barrel nut?


Its 80 ft lbs.

 


shit i need to make some adjustments then

 
10/30/2010 6:10:53 PM EDT
[#44]
If it's not the spring, check the BCG, make sure when you assembled it, you hat the firing pin inserted all the way.  Something says the cotter pin is in front of the shoulder on the pin and not in the trough that captures the firing pin.   Just a thought, I hope it's a quick fix!
10/30/2010 6:11:03 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:

Quoted:
go over to the ar15 section there is a lot of info on them in there, I had issues with one and the guys in there helped me work it out....

my guess is hammer spring is in backwards

This. Hammer spring is backwards.
 

This

10/30/2010 6:12:15 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
is your firing pin retainer located on the correct side of the pin's shoulder?




1st.  thought

10/30/2010 6:13:07 PM EDT
[#47]



http://www.ar15.com/content/guides/assembly/lower/#trigger




10/30/2010 6:14:07 PM EDT
[#48]
There ain't no gas in it.
10/30/2010 6:15:28 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Quoted:
go over to the ar15 section there is a lot of info on them in there, I had issues with one and the guys in there helped me work it out....

my guess is hammer spring is in backwards

This. Hammer spring is backwards.
 

This



^This^
10/30/2010 6:15:42 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
Try turning it off, then on again.


Jiggle the handle!!!

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