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10/12/2006 8:17:05 PM EDT
I am playing around with using CoSecant, Secant, and CoTangent functions...I want to make sure WHICH button is which on my Texas Instruments TI 30 XIIS.

Over SIN the 2nd Function is SIN-1....would this be Secant?

Over COSINE the 2nd Function is COS-1  would this be Co-Secant?

Over Tangent the 2nd Function is TAN-1. would this be Co-Tangent?

or am I WAYYYYYY off base.  I used to only using Sine, Cosine and Tangent fucntions but would like to broaden my horizons a bit.



10/12/2006 8:20:19 PM EDT
[#1]
secant: 1/cos

cosecant: 1/sin

cotangent: 1/tan


the things you are referring to are the inverses of the sin, cos, tan, which are different things.
10/12/2006 8:20:44 PM EDT
[#2]
i don't think so.

sin^-1 is just the inverse sin.

course it was 2.5 years ago when i took trig so i dunno.

i don't think there is a function on your calculator for what your talking about.


edit: i am slow.
10/12/2006 8:20:50 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
secant: 1/cos

cosecant: 1/sin

cotangent: 1/tan


the things you are referring to are the inverses of the sin, cos, tan, which are different things.


Correct!
10/12/2006 8:21:02 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
I am playing around with using CoSecant, Secant, and CoTangent functions...I want to make sure WHICH button is which on my Texas Instruments TI 30 XIIS.

Over SIN the 2nd Function is SIN-1....would this be Secant?

Over COSINE the 2nd Function is COS-1  would this be Co-Secant?

Over Tangent the 2nd Function is TAN-1. would this be Co-Tangent?

or am I WAYYYYYY off base.  I used to only using Sine, Cosine and Tangent fucntions but would like to broaden my horizons a bit.




Cos^-1 is the arccosine
sin^-1 is arcsine

cos(theta)=x/r
arccos(x/r)=theta

this is the basics, if you want some good online math reference, matweb and wolfram have good online reference sites.  Google them.  
10/12/2006 8:21:14 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
secant: 1/cos

cosecant: 1/sin

cotangent: 1/tan


the things you are referring to are the inverses of the sin, cos, tan, which are different things.


hear hear!
10/12/2006 8:25:29 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
secant: 1/cos

cosecant: 1/sin

cotangent: 1/tan


the things you are referring to are the inverses of the sin, cos, tan, which are different things.


Correct!


Okay.....that's what I thought.  Thanks for the help!
10/12/2006 8:27:49 PM EDT
[#7]
Yeah, it's a stupid notation. Don't confuse it with an exponent, thats not what it means. Most higher math and physics books use arctan, arcsin, and arccos.
10/12/2006 8:29:41 PM EDT
[#8]

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Yeah, it's a stupid notation. Don't confuse it with an exponent, thats not what it means. Most higher math and physics books use arctan, arcsin, and arccos.


I'll stick with right triangles for now.......
10/12/2006 8:32:12 PM EDT
[#9]
what are you working on?
10/12/2006 8:33:57 PM EDT
[#10]

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what are you working on?


LOL.....relearning all of the trig funcitons in relation to right triangles and the ratios therein.

Having a hell of a time, too.  I am SEVERELY dyslexic.
10/12/2006 8:33:59 PM EDT
[#11]

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what are you working on?


The square root of 4.
10/12/2006 8:34:00 PM EDT
[#12]
hehe a good engineer can't resist a math problem.
10/12/2006 8:36:09 PM EDT
[#13]
Pony up and get a TI89 it does it all for you
10/12/2006 8:40:41 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:
what are you working on?


LOL.....relearning all of the trig funcitons in relation to right triangles and the ratios therein.

Having a hell of a time, too.  I am SEVERELY dyslexic.


If you have trouble remembering the ratios, try Oh Hell Another Hour Of Algebra (O/H (sine) A/H (cosine) O/A (tangent)). My dad told me that back when I was in high school and I haven't forgotten it.
10/12/2006 8:42:03 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
what are you working on?


LOL.....relearning all of the trig funcitons in relation to right triangles and the ratios therein.

Having a hell of a time, too.  I am SEVERELY dyslexic.


I am a senior in engineering, I never mess with much beyond Cos, Sin, & Tan and their inverses.  Occassionally the hyperbolic sin and cos, but that is in some ugly transforms for electronic signals.  

Just draw alot of pictures.  Trig and angles can get confusing fast.  
10/12/2006 8:43:10 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
what are you working on?


LOL.....relearning all of the trig funcitons in relation to right triangles and the ratios therein.

Having a hell of a time, too.  I am SEVERELY dyslexic.


I am a senior in engineering, I never mess with much beyond Cos, Sin, & Tan and their inverses.  Occassionally the hyperbolic sin and cos, but that is in some ugly transforms for electronic signals.  

Just draw alot of pictures.  Trig and angles can get confusing fast.  


Yea. Trig identities suck! Complex notation all the way
10/12/2006 8:43:47 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
Pony up and get a TI89 it does it all for you


See, I am up for a Machinist job ( entry level ) at work and I really want to get my trig fucntions down.  Oddly, my other geometry stuff is not a problem ( things like chords, arc radians and such ) but the knowing which function to use for which ratio in trig always gets me turned around.  I figure if I know the function of each one of the six functions then it won't matter which piece of info I might be missing.

and yes, I am quite familiar with Pythagorean theorem...I just really want to know my trig functions as they are part of my job description ( if I can get it )......
10/12/2006 8:47:03 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
what are you working on?


LOL.....relearning all of the trig funcitons in relation to right triangles and the ratios therein.

Having a hell of a time, too.  I am SEVERELY dyslexic.


If you have trouble remembering the ratios, try Oh Hell Another Hour Of Algebra (O/H (sine) A/H (cosine) O/A (tangent)). My dad told me that back when I was in high school and I haven't forgotten it.


Here's another good one:

SOH CAH TOA  ( so - ka - toe ah`)

Sine=Opp/Hyp

Cosine=Adj/Hyp

Tangent=Opp/Adj